25 Aug
2015
25 Aug
'15
3:09 p.m.
great idea mary. we are not perfect judges & could libel someone
inadvertently. ~r
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mary Ward <maryhbw(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All:
I am concerned about posting peoples faces publicly on the Omni site. I
suggest a physical book on the premises instead. The reasons for this are
due to the slanderous nature of publicly posted bans and that most of those
who were banned are banned without due process.
I realize that the space must be policed in order to function, but I think
we should think about the rights of the banned persons because they are
people with feelings, too.
Best Regards,
Mary Ward
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:34 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
These concerns (access to space, Omni membership,
etc.) are ones that I
imagine will be addressed in the upcoming visioning / planning process.
It's my understanding that this process could potentially result in a
more top-down restructuring of the management of the Omni with little to no
required buy-in from the individual collectives.
I am not a part of the visioning / planning facilitation team so I don't
know too much about what's been discussed thus far but people who are
interested in what the future of the Omni looks like, organizationally,
should participate in this process.
N
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Robb Anonymous <sf99er(a)gmail.com> wrote:
there seems to be ambiguity about james
moon's ban, to wit: i was
informed that his membership was block but that he was not ever banned. if
i was misinformed please clarify.
as to jeremy, *the senate* ;) told me he had some issues a while back
(online abusive rants?) and that his membership was questionable.
is it ok to take someone's photo if they are about to be asked to leave
or banned?
@jake, your concern for people burning out who have to deal with this
stuff is greatly appreciated.
thx yar, i will register with omni-discuss & omni-mediation so i can tx
the most appropriate lists.
~r
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
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i think we need to work on more practical and
effective ways to keep
the space free of banned persons at all times.
what can people do when a banned person repeatedly returns whenever
they feel like they can get in? there are no consequences for trying.
I know that we do not call police for these types of issues, but what
about telling people that if they return again, the police will be called
and they will not know it until a cop shows up to grab them?
Does that go against our values? If so, what is a reasonable motivator
to get people to stop returning all the time?
If the response is "we just need to keep leaning on members and
volunteers to constantly beg trespassers to leave again" i fear that we are
going to burn people out faster than we can replace them.
-jake
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Stephen Whitmore wrote:
Not sure if you're aware of it, but Omni/sudo
> has https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Asked_to_Leave. Photograph existence
> varies wildly, of
> course.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ah - so he was already banned anyway, but was still coming in?
>
> You know, I have a really hard time putting names to faces. It
> would be
> extremely useful if we actually had photographs of the people
> that are
> banned, similar to noisebridges 86 page. That way we might
> actually have some
> hope of enforcing the bans already in place...
>
> Patrik
>
> On Aug 25, 2015 1:15 PM, "yar" <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:10 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > hackerspace inside the Omni, and it sounds like the
> people
> involved
> > were not Sudoroom members nor did they claim to be, and
> the
> events
>
> Actually I stand corrected, James Moon applied to be a
> Sudoroom
> member
> a couple months ago, before he went on a yelling spree that
> scared a
> bunch of people away, and was then blocked from membership
> and
> banned.
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