11 Apr
2013
11 Apr
'13
5:34 p.m.
Wait, sudo square is actually a public park--meaning it doesn't belong to
the building owner adjacent to the square that has set up their own private
chairs they lock at night, well pretty much most of the time?
// Matt
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
Yeah, what Jenny is saying.
And also in regards to what is Sudo about it:
The naming of streets and landmarks and parks is accomplished either
formally by the state or the company willing to sponsor it.
I think the Sudo way of naming landmarks should depend on what the
community can collectively accomplish without confirmation by power or with
money. It is peer produced because it depends on voluntary community
collaborative participation of check-in in order to have legitimacy.
Governments can't force Yelp to list some landmark the same as Google,
Yahoo!, and FacebookHome. And the companies competitive interests prevent
cooperation.
Which Franklin is it referring to? If it is Benjamin, I'd guess he'd be
all for it.
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On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Mark: Thanks for the info! That sounds like a beautiful public
transportation option. I was wondering what happened to Oakland streetcars
and it seems there was a recent plan and push for them:
http://www.oaklandstreetcarplan.com
JC: We are not a virtually community alone - sudo room is a physical space
located in an actual place, with history and neighbors and all the
intricacies that compose location-based culture.
I'm a huge fan of Oakland Wiki and think it's one of the most important
projects sudoers are working on right now. Attention to one's surroundings
and the dynamics of a place one is relatively new to reflects a sensibility
of understanding and attunement that is sadly neglected in this age of
community alienation and displacement (how many of us actually grew up in
this town?).
Jenny
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM, J.C. <r33lmm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This all sounds interesting and stuff, it would
be helpful if you gave a
quick context as to why I would care about this and how it relates to
sudo'ism.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM, mark burdett <mfburdett(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
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the actual name is Franklin Plaza and yes it has
a OaklandWiki page- we
batch-imported all oakland parks :)
http://oaklandwiki.org/Franklin_Plaza
by the way, if you look at old maps, there used to be Southern Pacific
streetcars running along Franklin St across Broadway onto 22nd street by
the sudoroom entrance. from sudoroom you could take an electric train (1200
volts DC!) all the way to SF ferry building (via the SP mole which is now
middle harbor shoreline park) in one direction and Alameda in the other.
Also - apparently when the land where sudoroom stands was first
subdivided as "Wilcox Place" you could buy a lot for $900 gold coin..
--mark B.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
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ThanX,
;+)
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Hi all -
I wanted to ask a flash-mob like favor from folks coming to Sudo Room
this evening. Over the summer, several of us created the Sudo Square page
at Foursquare (
https://foursquare.com/v/sudo-square/50074796e4b092cb5fe8c83d) and
Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sudo-Square/351059718301717)
as part of a plan to name the plaza at the intersection of Broadway, 19th,
& Franklin. Can you please check-in on your way in?
It's a lovely day and the Punchdown (http://www.punchdownwine.com/)
already put out the outdoor table seating. I'll be hanging out there until
the meeting and will remind Sudo folk I see.
Given the democratization of nomenclature afforded by geo-located
mobile computing, I thought it most appropriate to have some kind of
coordinated crowd in-checking initiative. There are some pictures, but
it's a placeholder so far. So far as we know (& the Oakland Wiki folks
could correct us), the square does not yet have a name.
So not just today - but anytime - when you're passing by 22nd &
Broadway and you're itching to check in on Facebook or Foursquare, or Yelp,
or however it is you go about telling the world instantaneously where you
are - please check in at Sudo Square - often and tell your friends about it
too. I am also now trying to compile a list of the existing sites &
services use for geo-located check-in fun - so let me know if you know of
others.
Perhaps during one of the upcoming Art Murmurs - we can have an
official check-in dedication ceremony - we can invite the mayor.
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