28 Feb
2013
28 Feb
'13
1:13 p.m.
I can come and act like a detective.. I have no experience, but I
have picked some locks before. Haha this thread is amusing me today,
thanks
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM, mark burdett <mark(a)510pen.org> wrote:
No one is really inviting a detective, right? there
are lots of reasons not
to. like, I assume many of us have a policy of only talking to LE w/ our
lawyers..
The "fundamentals of armed robbery" workshop suggested in the articles could
be quite informative! "fundamentals of computer fraud and abuse" could be
interesting too, although according to
https://data.oaklandnet.com/Public-Safety/CrimeWatch-Maps-Past-90-Days/ym6k…
there is quite a lot of robbery going on, hardly any "ACCESS
COMPUTER/ALTER/ETC DATA:DEVISE SCHEME/ETC DEFRAUD/ETC"
--mark B.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Anon195714 <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Yo's-
On the other hand, the Mayor could send along a plain-clothes detective to
hang out and keep an eye open for known gang members etc. "Just say
Honeypot!", and we're doing the city a favor.
OK, so a few recent crime anecdotes:
= A close friend's car window was smashed on the side street while we were
up at SudoRoom.
= Another close friend's bike was stolen out of the common area.
= A neighbor of mine's bike was stolen out of their garage today.
= The officer who took the stolen bike report (Berkeley PD) said that the
standard MO these days is for the robber to knock at the door, and if no
answer, kick the door in. If the resident is away it becomes a burglary.
If the resident is home, it becomes a home-invasion robbery or worse.
= As another close friend of mine once said, "doors are a convenience for
people who are polite." A strong lock on a strong door with a weak window
nearby, is evidence of nothing more or less than a homeowner without the
ability to imagine how baddies think.
I don't see any lock-picking going on in any of those. As a method of
committing crimes, lock-picking is obsolete.
And I do see an opportunity for some positive outreach to Mayor Quan's
office, re. the opportunity for having a detective attend the event. This
would be similar to how Quaker activist groups handled their plans for
protests, by keeping the relevant LE agencies informed. When I lived in New
England, I saw this first-hand, and it worked. Protests organized by those
groups were successful, every time.
Does anyone here have good relations with anyone in Oakland city gov, and
want to volunteer to get the lines of communication open?
-G.
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On 13-02-27-Wed 11:26 PM, Tommy York wrote:
"OAKLAND -- One skill that appears all too common in Oakland these days is
the ability to pick a lock. Burglaries jumped more than 40 percent last
year, and not all of them involved window smashes."
This is a horrific excuse for journalism. Not all burglaries involved
window smashes? Oh really? And in that case, how many involved skilled lock
picking?
Mencken would be angry.
- tommy
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu <zamfire(a)gmail.com>
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren
<rustylindgren(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh dear gawd. This is possibly the most moronic piece of "journalism"
> I have ever seen.
>
> Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to a lock-picking
> school(actually it teaches you way more), and that this is just a cheaper
> version of that? (see: http://www.lock411.com/training.html).
>
> Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves skilled lock-picking,
> because it's a waste of time.
>
> Don't worry though, you can train in deadly martial arts, go to the
> shooting range, and buy ninja swords just about anywhere in Oakland, but
> picking a Masterlock is "appalling".
>
> -Rusty
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca Mosoiu <anca(a)techliminal.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that people are
>> learning how to pick locks this weekend.
>>
>>
>> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047
>>
>> Here is Oakland Local's response:
>>
>>
>>
http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning…
>>
>> Anca
>>
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