4 May
2013
4 May
'13
9:07 p.m.
Andrew, Sonja, and Yo's-
With or without the wank factor, consenting adult porn is a legitimate
expression of erotic and sexual feelings in the arts and literature.
There's something to be said for having more erotica and sexuality, and
less violence, in the media. Speaking of things that would generate
major cultural change, keyword search "Prescott" + "violence" for
details ("Body pleasure and the origins of violence", widely available
online).
And there's something to be said for not indulging in the puritanical
bad habit of looking down on a harmless form of recreation that's more
popular in the world than baseball and soccer together.
-G.
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On 13-05-04-Sat 7:55 PM, Andrew wrote:
There are ofcourse other reasons for porn. Just pointing out a major one.
On May 4, 2013 7:53 PM, "Andrew" <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com
<mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com>> wrote:
People want porn for somthing easy to focus on while masturbating.
Masturbating being a natural part of life. I also dont think that
all people who can have sex with others, but don't , are doing so
because they don't have the "skills"
On May 4, 2013 7:20 PM, "Sonja Trauss" <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com
<mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com>> wrote:
Or less representation of sex altogether. What does anyone
need porn for?
On May 4, 2013 7:10 PM, "Andrew" <andrew(a)vagabondballroom.com
<mailto:andrew@vagabondballroom.com>> wrote:
When i ran an erotic event in oakland our crew made it a
point to balence genders as much as possible. We had male
and female co-hosts and male and female strippers.
Also. Somthing to keep in mind is that there are more than
two genders. In my mind objectification is not the issue.
Representation is. Porn is mostly filmed from a
hetero-cis-male perspective and because of that, taken as
a whole, is exploitive. There is porn that fights this
perspective and representation of sex and there needs to
be more.
On May 4, 2013 6:55 PM, "Sonja Trauss"
<sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com <mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Can I get a link for this gonorreah story?
On May 4, 2013 6:42 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne"
<g2g-public01(a)att.net <mailto:g2g-public01@att.net>>
wrote:
Romy & Yo's-
Re. "womens' bodies with their faces cut off."
Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. I never
noticed that before (OTOH
attempts to do "sexy" in advertising generally
don't get my attention),
but I vaguely recall seeing ads like that somewhere.
I agree, a torso minus a face is depersonalizing
and objectifying as
hell, unless there's a very good reason for taking
a photo that way
(e.g. medical contexts). Being looked at "that
way" produces the creepy
feeling that the looker's intentions are
non-consensual.
The only borderline-legit reason I could see for
doing it in clothing
ads is, "we want you to imagine yourself wearing
this, and we don't want
to risk putting you off by showing a face that's
substantially different
to yours, so imagine your face on this person's
body." But it would be
foolish to think that's what's intended every time
that photographic
method is used.
This brings up the question of what people find
sexy in photography.
For me (gay male), a photo minus a face is a
non-starter: there's no cue
for communication with the person. Nudes in
general don't do it either:
all the usual contextual cues as to someone's
personality are missing,
so why would I even begin to imagine being in an
intimate context with
someone I don't really know? I've always felt
that way but now we have
the HIV pandemic to reinforce it: in general it's
not a good idea to get
intimate with someone you don't know very well,
because the outcome
could be a life-threatening illness.
For that matter, now that massively-drug-resistant
gonorrhea is loose in
the USA, which is hella' easier to catch than HIV
and can kill you in a
matter of days through a raging bacterial
infection, it's probably a
darn good idea for everyone to "get smart & play
safe" ALL the time,
zero exceptions, even more so than with HIV. In
which case photography
that portrays an objectified sexuality without
communications isn't just
gross and exploitative, it's a public health
hazard that reinforces
attitudes that put people at risk for their lives.
-G.
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On 13-05-04-Sat 10:34 AM, Romy Snowyla wrote:
It's interesting to me how porn a
Nd erotica always advertise with women's bodies
with their
faces cut off
American apparel digs this etc
Lots of art theory discusses this
I would love for any Sudo room event to break
the mold and
show men's bodies in any erotic theme
as well ... Also would love to see the male body
as the focus of any erotic film or dance to
balance out the Imbalance and unnatural obsession
with t and a we see on the porn industry
Sent from my iPad
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