Re: [sudo-discuss] Call for Facilitators / Participants in a sudo Men's Group

Thanks Max for filling out your availability! Other interested parties, please do so here: http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf Thanks Jenny for the cc, (Hi Tom), and that sounds like a great first agenda item for this little cluster, easily done on the sudo room wiki or Noisebridge wiki, or both. // Matt On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Something that might be fruitful is creating a list of resources and > readings that are more easily digestible by geek men in particular, and of > course humans in general. I'm cc'ing Tom from Noisebridge, who's been > organizing a feminist book group for men at Noisebridge over the past couple > of months. > > -totally unaffiliated ally of this proposal :) > > Jenny > http://jennyryan.net > http://thepyre.org > http://thevirtualcampfire.org > http://technomadic.tumblr.com > > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." > -Laurie Anderson > > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining > it." > -Hannah Arendt > > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." > -Stéphane Mallarmé > ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> sorry, not "weekly" I don't know how frequently such a group should >> meet! >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Max, this is great: >>> >>> >>> "Be radical sudo men. Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy." >>> >>> But let's also meet and talk, I think it will be fruitful. Please >>> share your availability on this calendar, and we'll start a little weekly >>> meeting group. I favor Mondays in case folks have similar interests: >>> >>> http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf >>> >>> // Matt >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> As I see it - or perhaps I am wanting to see it this way - this Men's >>>> group's purpose would be to combat mindlessly performing inculcated >>>> patriarchal motions. And in the process of de-conditioning yourself as a >>>> "man", becoming a convincing, subtle and non-naggy argument for other men to >>>> do the same. Slowly doing what we can do restore a gender equitable society, >>>> from our side (while knowing that we can't do it ourselves, that's the sort >>>> of thinking that got us here in the first place). >>>> >>>> So a thousand yeses to all of the above. But how do we do it? In >>>> person meetings? Too self selecting. Online? Not visible enough. Making a >>>> charter? Toothless. Doing volunteer work? Pointless doting. >>>> >>>> Here's my suggestion, and I'm open to more. Be radical sudo men. >>>> Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy. >>>> notconfusing >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Bethencourt >>>> <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Great idea and I'm in if we can keep the time commitment relatively >>>>> light >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 19, 2014 9:12 PM, "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Positive responses at the weekly meeting. I started mulling it over >>>>>> more and would like to add: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm basically reaching out for help to men who would like to >>>>>> actively contribute to improving the performance of gender dynamics and to >>>>>> provide space for healing and support in sudo room. Please consider >>>>>> contributing, no experts required, just an open mind. >>>>>> >>>>>> Max, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have any particular resources in mind at the moment, want >>>>>> to be a bit open-ended, see what makes sense, then do some research and >>>>>> document along the way. >>>>>> >>>>>> // Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think its a great idea! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would you mind linking to some resources that have explanations of >>>>>>> what you're thinking about more specifically? I think people may have very >>>>>>> different ideas of what a men's group might do. I can do some looking around >>>>>>> later if need be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On February 19, 2014 6:48:50 PM PST, Matthew Senate >>>>>>> <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would >>>>>>>> want to facilitate or participate in a men's group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've previously participated in small groups like this and found >>>>>>>> them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks have had >>>>>>>> similar or different experiences. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something like >>>>>>>> a regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss relevant >>>>>>>> issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege, patriarchy, >>>>>>>> gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these >>>>>>>> topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any interest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Matt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss