26 Nov
2013
26 Nov
'13
3:15 p.m.
the potential spaces entry looks like it relates to the current space
search whereas the second list looks like it relates to our original search.
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Marina, thanks for that link. A technical question --
is there a
significant difference in the purpose of the following pages?
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Potential_spaces
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Sudo_room/open_a_space#Listings_Spreadsheet
If not -- any objections if I merge?
Pete
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
hi all,
as far as i can tell, the "state of gentrification of a neighborhood" (if
it's even possible for that to mean anything) isn't currently one of our
criteria when considering a new space:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Sudo_room/open_a_space
gentrification is super important, but i'm not sure why this discussion
is relevant to the list. would folks who are interested in discussing this
further please consider taking it off-list? if you are looking for a
constructive way to improve the level of this kind of discussion, the
"gentrification <http://oaklandwiki.org/gentrification>" & "what
should
we do about
gentrification<http://oaklandwiki.org/What_should_we_do_about_gentrifica…
entries on oakland wiki need lots of work.
- marina
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Max B
<maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Here's an amazing article with a ton of
history:
http://www.bayofrage.com/from-the-bay/oakland-is-for-burning-beyond-a-criti…
I would highly recommend anyone who thinks they have useful things to
say on the mailing list to read ALL of it and reconsider their
remarks......
I bit, but I didn't like the taste. It's a long article, so let me quote
the concluding paragraph here:
"By discovering together a practice that seeks to 1) identify and attack
development, 2) subvert and destroy the infrastructure of the city, and 3)
destroy whiteness as an identity and a set of practices, we can forge a
response to gentrification that hinges not on inactivity out of guilt, but
instead from action motivated by our insurgent spirit."
The anonymous author then goes on to enumerate an extensive list of
"enemies," which are mainly business associations. In other words there's
a
pretty strong agenda driving this article, which might or might not align
with various readers' visions of progress.
The article does offer some worthwhile historical nuggets, and in
general I agree with the notion the author advances, that class or
socioeconomic standing can be more useful anchoring concepts than race when
considering the evolution of a city.
I am surprised that the Black Guerrilla Family doesn't get a mention
among the radical groups with significant history here.
Max -- what do you see in this article that could inform the choice of a
new location for Sudo Room?
Pete
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