23 Apr
2022
23 Apr
'22
10:54 p.m.
This. Is. Fan-*tastic!*
I took the community standards you linked to from Noisebridge, massaged
them a bit to fit things we've discussed and lightly copy edited them. Take
a look now at the about <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About> page now.
Specifically https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About#Code_of_Conduct
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Cere Misc via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
Ok weird. I dunno what changed, but now I see it.
Thanks!
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:22 PM Eric O'Connor <eric(a)oco.nnor.org> wrote:
Hey Cere,
I wonder if there is a caching issue? I see your changes for health and
diversity when I refresh the page, and I also see your edits in the
history.
Were there other changes that didn’t get saved?
Eric
On Apr 21, 2022, at 12:00, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hrm. I don't see where my changes got added into the purpose section
when I search for keywords like health and diverse. Did you not save
changes or something?
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:16 PM Eric O'Connor <eric(a)oco.nnor.org> wrote:
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Hey Cere,
Awesome! — and yes, I agree that the quotes were just for temporary
brainstorming. Thanks for removing them.
I feel that we should retain the part about "foster and expand
innovation and creativity” because it gives some specificity as to _
*how_* we envision the improvement of our community to be actualized.
That is basically an attempt to summarize this section:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Bylaws#Article_3._Purpose
I added that back, but kept the rest of your changes. What do you think?
Eric
On Apr 21, 2022, at 09:20, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Eric,
Thanks for those edits. After suggesting curiosity, I failed to include
it in my own draft (lol) as it didn't quite make as much sense as I thought
given the rest of what I wrote down. It's a big change from what you
proposed, so I hope at least some of it speaks to you.
I like the idea of having the quotes to brainstorm new writing but I
worried about keeping them around as appeals to authority which might get
us off on the wrong foot from an anarchist or cultural diversity
perspective so I removed it from my draft.
https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&…
In the end, there is less written but I was sort of aiming for brevity
anyway.
Hope it's helpful.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:58 PM Eric O'Connor <eric(a)oco.nnor.org> wrote:
_______________________________________________ That makes sense.
I just made an edit to revise to emphasize curiosity more — and
included some quotes from famous people talking about it. Maybe we can
rephrase those statements and make that our own?
Let me know what you think
https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&…
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About
Eric
On Apr 21, 2022, at 07:15, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The verb "curiosity" seems really central to me in terms of vision and
values (but esp vision). But I am struggling to propose exactly how that
could be worded. If others feel similarly, maybe something on that could
be added.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:02 AM Eric O'Connor via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
> I made this page to try to address "statement of intent":
>
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About
>
> It is not complete, and still includes noisebridge links because most
> of this is copy-paste.
> Please review/change it?
>
> Eric
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, at 21:50, Jenny Ryan via sudo-discuss wrote:
>
> Agreed!
> On 4/17/22 06:04, Cere Misc wrote:
>
>
> One way I would describe openness is: genuine (non-antagonizing)
> curiosity. That is, not weaponizing curiosity as a "just asking questions"
> antagonistic rhetorical strategy.
>
> It seems easy to point to examples of "closedness" once we've
> encountered instances of them. By contrast, openness is weirdly hard to
> describe without referencing closedness.
>
> (sorry. philosophy is just where my head goes these days)
>
>
>
> 1) openness to sharing knowledge [whilst avoiding obnoxious
> mansplaining and acronym-everything, sharing and asking in turn, spirit of
> co-learning - we all can learn from each other, of course];
>
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