14 Sep
2013
14 Sep
'13
5:59 p.m.
Hacker Scouts is gathering funding for a new bigger hackerspace /
headquarters in Oakland. Possibly Sudo Room could get involved and share
the new space with them?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/832476585/hacker-scouts-oakland-lab
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
True. Though there is approx. $25,000 in legal fees in
preparation for the
CA DPO. Cutting Edge Capital (Jenny Kassan) did the People's Community
Market.
Not sure how the comparison will stack up, but it's problematic that the
DPO involves getting the $25K upfront, in order to raise the DPO money.
Either way, it seems to me like an institutional membership structure
might make it a lot more feasible (i.e., Bay Area Public School, Roshambo
Media, Sound Room, Pan Theater, Pan Theatre, Community Democracy Project,
Oakland Wiki, etc. etc.).
sent from eddan.com
On Sep 14, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
If it's a California direct public offering, it can be done as equity
already. See people's community market in west Oakland.
On Sep 14, 2013 1:09 PM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
or it could be structured as a co-op real estate
deal.
or an equity crowd funded (starting 9/28) distribution of shares.
Sudo Room can remain what it is. Sudo Co-op, for example, can be the
entity with title to the property.
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On Sep 14, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
We have to find out what the building is worth, then someone has to see
how big of a loan we could get as a group (we'd need a tax structure). Once
we find that out we can crowd source for the deposit and first months
mortgage.
It's within the realm of possibility, but would require Sudo Room to
become a land owner and a state/federally recognized entity (like an LLC)
with people on the board having good credit. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
--Andrew
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
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+1!!!
Minus - 'it's probably too big to be crowdfunded'
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On Sep 13, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Not sure if this is possible, but just throwing it out there since there
seems to be a general consensus that the location is ideal, but the
management is the opposite:
Can sudoroom (or some conglomerate including sudoroom) buy George out?
or convince someone/something friendly to sudoroom to buy him out?
I think it's probably too big to be crowdfunded, but does anyone know
someone profusely wealthy able to take this on? or a group?
I am guessing there are already models for spaces owned by the groups
that operate there, cooperatively maybe?
I'm not necessarily advocating this, but this space in Atlanta is pretty
nice, even though it's been bought by developers for the purpose of
fostering an art community that already existed there, and they have a farm:
http://clatl.com/atlanta/goat-farm-gets-sold/Content?oid=1868024
Not sure what the equivalent in Oakland would be.
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>wrote;wrote:
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Walking away may not be easy to do as he tends to
corner people when
they are alone in the space.
On Sep 13, 2013 11:47 AM, "Hol Gaskill" <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
> reiterating the in-writing requirement is good. just walking away may
> or may not be so good - i have so far had the good fortune not to know the
> depths of these interactions.
>
> Sep 13, 2013 10:05:48 AM, andrew(a)roshambomedia.com wrote:
> The lease that Matt sent out a while ago clearly states that all
> requests and complaints must be in writing. So I would like to reiterate
> that if George approaches you just say, "please put that in writing so I
> can share it with the group, thanks" and walk away if you can.
> >
>
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:12 PM, johanna faust
> female.faust(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> >i wonder if there is any hopen in talking to him?
> >
>
> >
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Senate mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all, I sent this to Laurie today:
> >
> >
> >
> > Laurie,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for replying briefly, when do you expect you will be able to
> send a
> >
> > full response? We also need to address the incident on this past
> Saturday,
> >
> > which was another unacceptable confrontation and accusation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Matthew Senate mattsenate(a)gmail.com
> >
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> We've used http://hackerspaces.crowdmap.com/ in the past to show
> listings
> >
> >> of spaces, look at price points, be knowledgeable about local
> availability.
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM, rusty lindgren
> rustylindgren(a)gmail.com>
> >
> >> wrote:
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> >>>
> >
> >>> And these:
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> >>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4047110117.html
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> >>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4015202437.html
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