Helen what is your alternative for
accountability?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Helen Finkelstein <hefinkel(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I strongly disagree. Banning is too drastic a
measure for the problems
that Darin has, and he has been making a serious effort to deal with them.
There is long-standing hostility between Darin and Babs. It would be
a mistake for the OMNI to get involved in it. Darin, at least, just wants
to keep his distance.
Helen
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:12 AM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> There has been many attempts to mediate with Darin but still he is
> unaccountable. Therfore I think he needs to be banned so that he can take
> these issues in his life a little more seriously. Helen what is the
> conflict that y'all are mediating?
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Kevin Laird <thegayscience(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> whoops. Always read to the end of the thread first... -K
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Kevin Laird <thegayscience(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would speak with Darin. I would need to speak with whomever has
>>> been working with him in the past first, is there an extant point
>>> person/mediator/steward? Plz fwd me contacts or names.
>>> tracy I understand your frustrations, and yours as well, cat
>>> person, but making the future happen requires a lot of patience!
>>>
>>> -K
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:04 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adding the mediation mailing list to this thread in the hopes that
>>>> someone will step forward to steward these conflicts towards whatever
ends
>>>> are in the community's best interest.
>>>>
>>>> <3
>>>>
>>>> Niki
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:37 PM, WIld Cat <
>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> These are community issues not personal issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs <
>>>>> kinetical(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sudoers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address
>>>>>> issues of a personal nature and character assassinations or
public shaming
>>>>>> other than this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go
to Sudo
>>>>>> room after reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension.
And it
>>>>>> really is a great place. Can anyone think of another venue for
these types
>>>>>> of discussions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat
<wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to
>>>>>> re-enter and said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks
away from here
>>>>>> and handle this like an adult."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her that
>>>>>> "you need to chill out or some shit is going to happen"
but I also
>>>>>> clarified by saying "I am not threatening you with any form
of violence."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but Darin
>>>>>> did not give any details of what happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat <
>>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer
spaces
>>>>>>> policy on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past
as well as
>>>>>>> recent behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in
violation of
>>>>>>> the safer spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive
swearing,
>>>>>>> intentional misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told
me in an
>>>>>>> aggressive way that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at
me.) He has
>>>>>>> had a history of being banned from spaces for similar
behaviors of sexual
>>>>>>> harassment and inappropriate behavior.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do
not
>>>>>>> feel safe with him being in the space during such process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen
and
>>>>>>> Centi. that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing
behavior. Pidgen
>>>>>>> has been banned from several other radical spaces for
entitlement problems
>>>>>>> - theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues.
>>>>>>> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call
on
>>>>>>> the community to permanently ban Pidgen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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