Sudoers, Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address issues of a personal nature and character assassinations or public shaming other than this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go to Sudo room after reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension. And it really is a great place. Can anyone think of another venue for these types of discussions? Tracy On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> wrote: Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to re-enter and said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from here and handle this like an adult." Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her that "you need to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also clarified by saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence." Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but Darin did not give any details of what happened. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

Adding the mediation mailing list to this thread in the hopes that someone will step forward to steward these conflicts towards whatever ends are in the community's best interest. <3 Niki On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:37 PM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ mediation mailing list mediation(a)lists.omnicommons.org https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation

Adding the mediation mailing list to this thread in the hopes that someone will step forward to steward these conflicts towards whatever ends are in the community's best interest. <3 Niki On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:37 PM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ mediation mailing list mediation(a)lists.omnicommons.org https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation

whoops. Always read to the end of the thread first... -K On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Kevin Laird &lt;thegayscience(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

I strongly disagree. Banning is too drastic a measure for the problems that Darin has, and he has been making a serious effort to deal with them. There is long-standing hostility between Darin and Babs. It would be a mistake for the OMNI to get involved in it. Darin, at least, just wants to keep his distance. Helen On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:12 AM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

Darin is being held accountable to all of us, I say it like it is to Darin and he's working hard at mediation and counseling. That IS the process Bans protect people and incentivize mediation. Darin is already going through that mediation and should be given the chance to be counseled and improve. Jumping in barely a couple weeks after mediation has begun isnt giving him due time... And others who have been hurt by Darin generally still come around and just don't engage with him, in fact I hang out with such friends who were not scared away from the space because of him e.g. Babs when she's alone or with people who don't have conflict with Darin, who see him pass and ignore him, as he does them. Because they do not fear him, Often it is other feelings, many others, including negative ones, I see, but not fear of Darin Until such time as Darin is ready to engage peacefully again, this is sufficient to me... But I do know there are people avoiding the space, peaceful people never in conflict, who are put off by your presence WildCat, and fearful of it... ...is that the power you want? On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:10 AM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- <3 Rachel

"But I do know there are people avoiding the space, peaceful people never in conflict, who are put off by your presence WildCat, and fearful of it... ...is that the power you want" Can you describe who these people are and why they are "put off"? I know some people are "put off" that I am utilizing the Safer Spaces Policy and confront behaivors that I find problematic but I think that there are some people "put off" because they don't know me, understand where I am coming from, and or feel vulnerable because they behaive oppressively themselves fear accountability. . For instance Rob said that I was acting "like a cop" implying that I was acting authoritarian. .The way that he put it, triggered and offended me deeply because of my experiences being brutalized and tortured for acting justly. The police do not hold people accountable for issues of oppression, they enforce oppression on the world. Though I understand that I sometimes I can be better about being constructive with my criticism, I feel that my utilization of the Safer Spaces Policy has been legit.He said that he thought I he was worried that I was against all men. I responded by telling him that I know a lot of good men that the issue is not men but patriarchal/trans-misogynist behaivor that I also have to keep in check myself (being that I was socialized to be a straight male by my father and the Church but through a process of self realization and criticism I have begun unsocializing my self of oppressive behaviors and have begun in process of transitioning and coming out as a queer/transperson.) Rachel, I know you have a lot of hope in changing people but I can see that creating a lot of problems if we spend so much time trying to do that rather than get work done in the OMNI. I have little energy to be in mediation processes with defensive/unaccountable people who have greater issues of oppression like Doc who is a open National "Anarchist" (contradiction) White Supremacist. You ( Rachel) have expressed that you would him like to continue being a part of the space. He has said this like "We shouldn't have any immigrants." and "Nuke the Middle East." "National Socialists (Nazis) were the first Socialists." Honestly your defense of him makes me trust you less because I see your rushed process of "restorative justice" as have a certain amount of complacency with oppressive behavior. People can call me whatever but one thing I know is that I am not complacent with issues of oppression. That means if someone tells me that I am being oppressive I will spend a lot of time listening and self reflect on ways I can be accountable to their concerns. So regardless I will continue to work and be accountable to my community but I am not willing to compromise the safety and liberation of the community so that we can "hand hold" for oppressive people. I don't believe it is the responsibility of the survivors or oppressed in a particular conflict to "teach" the oppressor. That responsibility should fall on those who have greater privileges and the perpetrator to be self aware and change themselves. No oppressive person will change unless they are willing to do commit to a lifetime of self-criticism and awareness. *With Darin I am in conversation with FNB Joe about coming up with a constructive resolution. To be accountable to the process I am willing to meet with a larger circle of people to come up with a community agreement about to help Darin grow out of his oppressive behavior and history. * "Likewise, past what point can we agree that someone has NOT worked on their shit, and we shouldn’t bother wasting our time on it anymore? Some accountability processes drag on for months and years, diverting collective energy from other more fulfilling and useful ends. One stubborn sexist can sour an entire scene on making good faith efforts to hold folks accountable—which goes to show how important it is to know when to end an attempted process before it drags everyone down with it. If we’re going to invest so much time and energy in these processes, we need a way to assess if it’s worthwhile, and when to admit failure. Perpetrator accountability is not an easy or short process… It takes a lifelong commitment to change behaviors that are so deeply ingrained; it requires consistent effort and support. When talking about follow-up, we should be making schedules for weeks, but also talking about checking in after months and years. It takes that kind of long-lasting support to make real transformation possible. Let’s be frank: if we expect people to remain involved in an accountability process for some scumbag they don’t even like for years, and we expect this as a norm for an increasing number of processes for different people, who may or may not be cooperative—we are not setting a realistic standard. That’s not to say that the article is wrong; transformation of patriarchal and abusive behavior patterns is a lifelong process. But is it really a surprise that we fail to sustain these difficult, unrewarding processes stretching over such lengths of time, when few anarchists in our scene follow through on long-term commitments to even our most fervent passions? What can we realistically commit to doing?" " - https://ia902307.us.archive.org/21/items/AccountingForOurselves/accounting-… Here are some other great resources: http://www.phillyspissed.net/sites/default/files/what%20to%20do%20when%20so… https://inciteblog.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/why-misogynists-make-great-info… On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Rachel Wolfsohn &lt;rawjnana(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Darin is being held accountable to all of us, > I say it like it is to Darin and he's working hard at mediation and > counseling. > That IS the process > Bans protect people and incentivize mediation. > Darin is already going through that mediation and should be given the > chance to be counseled and improve. Jumping in barely a couple weeks after > mediation has begun isnt giving him due time... > > And others who have been hurt by Darin generally still come around and > just don't engage with him, > in fact I hang out with such friends who were not scared away from the > space because of him > e.g. Babs when she's alone or with people who don't have conflict with > Darin, > who see him pass and ignore him, as he does them. Because they do not > fear him, > Often it is other feelings, many others, including negative ones, I see, > but not fear of Darin > Until such time as Darin is ready to engage peacefully again, this is > sufficient to me... > > But I do know there are people avoiding the space, > peaceful people never in conflict, > who are put off by your presence WildCat, and fearful of it... > ...is that the power you want? > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:10 AM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > >> Helen what is your alternative for accountability? >> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Helen Finkelstein &lt;hefinkel(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> I strongly disagree. Banning is too drastic a measure for the problems >>> that Darin has, and he has been making a serious effort to deal with them. >>> >>> There is long-standing hostility between Darin and Babs. It would be a >>> mistake for the OMNI to get involved in it. Darin, at least, just wants >>> to keep his distance. >>> >>> Helen >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:12 AM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> There has been many attempts to mediate with Darin but still he is >>>> unaccountable. Therfore I think he needs to be banned so that he can take >>>> these issues in his life a little more seriously. Helen what is the >>>> conflict that y'all are mediating? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Kevin Laird &lt;thegayscience(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> whoops. Always read to the end of the thread first... -K >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Kevin Laird &lt;thegayscience(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would speak with Darin. I would need to speak with whomever has >>>>>> been working with him in the past first, is there an extant point >>>>>> person/mediator/steward? Plz fwd me contacts or names. >>>>>> tracy I understand your frustrations, and yours as well, cat >>>>>> person, but making the future happen requires a lot of patience! >>>>>> >>>>>> -K >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:04 PM, niki &lt;niki.shelley(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Adding the mediation mailing list to this thread in the hopes that >>>>>>> someone will step forward to steward these conflicts towards whatever ends >>>>>>> are in the community's best interest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Niki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:37 PM, WIld Cat < >>>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These are community issues not personal issues. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs &lt;kinetical(a)comcast.net >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sudoers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address >>>>>>>>> issues of a personal nature and character assassinations or public shaming >>>>>>>>> other than this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go to Sudo >>>>>>>>> room after reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension. And it >>>>>>>>> really is a great place. Can anyone think of another venue for these types >>>>>>>>> of discussions? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tracy >>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to re-enter >>>>>>>>> and said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from here and >>>>>>>>> handle this like an adult." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her that >>>>>>>>> "you need to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also >>>>>>>>> clarified by saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but Darin >>>>>>>>> did not give any details of what happened. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat < >>>>>>>>> wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer spaces >>>>>>>>>> policy on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well as >>>>>>>>>> recent behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in violation of >>>>>>>>>> the safer spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive swearing, >>>>>>>>>> intentional misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an >>>>>>>>>> aggressive way that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has >>>>>>>>>> had a history of being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual >>>>>>>>>> harassment and inappropriate behavior. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do not >>>>>>>>>> feel safe with him being in the space during such process. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen and >>>>>>>>>> Centi. that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. Pidgen >>>>>>>>>> has been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement problems >>>>>>>>>> - theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues. >>>>>>>>>> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call on >>>>>>>>>> the community to permanently ban Pidgen. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> mediation mailing list >>>>>>> mediation(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> mediation mailing list >>>> mediation(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mediation mailing list >> mediation(a)lists.omnicommons.org >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation >> >> > > > -- > <3 Rachel >

_______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

These are community issues not personal issues. On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs &lt;kinetical(a)comcast.net&gt; wrote: > Sudoers, > > Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address issues of > a personal nature and character assassinations or public shaming other > than > this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go to Sudo room after > reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension. And it really is a > great place. Can anyone think of another venue for these types of > discussions? > > Tracy > On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to re-enter and > said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from here and handle > this like an adult." > > Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her that "you need > to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also clarified by > saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence." > > Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but Darin did not > give any details of what happened. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; > > wrote: >> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer spaces policy >> on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well as recent >> behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in violation of the >> safer >> spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive swearing, intentional >> misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an aggressive way >> that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has had a history >> of >> being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual harassment and >> inappropriate behavior. >> >> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do not feel >> safe with him being in the space during such process. >> >> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen and Centi. >> that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. Pidgen has >> been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement problems - >> theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues. >> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call on the >> community to permanently ban Pidgen. > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

This is the last email I will include sudodisxuss on for this thread... Darin is currently undergoing mediation, and should be given the chance to do so before a ban goes through. I have a blocking concern for such a ban on darin.... My belief that darin can change enough, however slowly, is justified and potent. I have seen he already has. In front of me at least, he no longer misgenders anyone, including those ppl he previously had, after we discussed it one night. Even if he's pissed at them. An immediate improvement from the heart and higher self layered under psychic shit like we all have to deal with just like him, is what I see...He is actively working, works hard in general and physically protects ppl from harassment daily. Misgendering: I too have been editing "he" for "them" with you Wildcat, because your gender pronoun is recent news to me as well as to many others. I strive to use They, bc of respect for trans identity in general, and ALSO camaraderie with you. But it takes a little time, and it is in good faith with continuous editing on my part, as it is for others. I'm really sorry you are hurt by misgendering and will do my best to correct the instances I witness. As I'm sure Darin will too, now that this information is available Sexual Language: Darin is working on this too. I have twice hung out with darin and neded to comment on his comments, asking him to hold his tongue, bc it was TMI about his sexual thoughts. It was not safe space language, and I asked him to.hold his tongue, but not an implication of action either, more like expression. Without FAIL he immediately apologizes and aims to hold back such comments. He is actively learning what to reserve to his private thoughts and I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart... Thus, I have a blocking.concern for this ban suggested for Darin Love, seriously, love, On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Torrie Fischer &lt;tdfischer(a)hackerbots.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tdfischer@hackerbots.net');>> wrote: Theres community issues, then theres "issues that involve the hundreds of people subscribed to sudo-discuss". This is not one of those issues. I have no involvement with this. I don't want to get involved with this. I'd honestly rather not hear about who is fighting who, or see people tearing down each other in public. I'd rather just hack a thing and assume that Sudo Room is a happy cheery place that has their shit together and everyone gets along. My Ƀ0.02. On Saturday, April 04, 2015 03:37:39 PM WIld Cat wrote: <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kinetical@comcast.net');>> wrote: of after is a <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wildcatofthewoods@gmail.com');>> wrote: handle need not <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wildcatofthewoods@gmail.com');>> policy intentional way history and Centi. has problems - <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org');> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org');> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

So I have known Darin for years and he has been called out for all of this behavior before and still hasn't learned. In terms of him misgendering me it seemed malicious because he accentuated " man" there were several witnesses to his extremely aggressive behavior that was a defensive response to me calmly asking why he was yelling at Babs. sexual harassment is not OK. I don't think you can speak for the other people who have called him out for inappropriate flirting. I had the conflict mediated by Joe but but still just acts the same to different people. I would propose a month ban at least so he gets that its not being accountable will have serious consequences. On Sunday, April 5, 2015, Rachel Wolfsohn &lt;rawjnana(a)gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rawjnana@gmail.com');>> wrote: > This is the last email I will include sudodisxuss on for this thread... > > Darin is currently undergoing mediation, and should be given the chance > to do so before a ban goes through. > > I have a blocking concern for such a ban on darin.... > > My belief that darin can change enough, however slowly, is justified and > potent. > > I have seen he already has. In front of me at least, he no longer > misgenders anyone, including those ppl he previously had, after we > discussed it one night. Even if he's pissed at them. An immediate > improvement from the heart and higher self layered under psychic shit like > we all have to deal with just like him, is what I see...He is actively > working, works hard in general and physically protects ppl from harassment > daily. > > Misgendering: > I too have been editing "he" for "them" with you Wildcat, because your > gender pronoun is recent news to me as well as to many others. > I strive to use They, bc of respect for trans identity in general, and > ALSO camaraderie with you. > But it takes a little time, and it is in good faith with continuous > editing on my part, as it is for others. > I'm really sorry you are hurt by misgendering and will do my best to > correct the instances I witness. As I'm sure Darin will too, now that this > information is available > > Sexual Language: > Darin is working on this too. I have twice hung out with darin and neded > to comment on his comments, asking him to hold his tongue, bc it was TMI > about his sexual thoughts. > It was not safe space language, and I asked him to.hold his tongue, but > not an implication of action either, more like expression. > Without FAIL he immediately apologizes and aims to hold back such > comments. He is actively learning what to reserve to his private thoughts > and I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart... > > Thus, I have a blocking.concern for this ban suggested for Darin > > Love, seriously, love, > > On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Torrie Fischer < > tdfischer(a)hackerbots.net&gt; wrote: > > Theres community issues, then theres "issues that involve the hundreds of > people subscribed to sudo-discuss". > > This is not one of those issues. I have no involvement with this. I don't > want > to get involved with this. I'd honestly rather not hear about who is > fighting > who, or see people tearing down each other in public. I'd rather just > hack a > thing and assume that Sudo Room is a happy cheery place that has their > shit > together and everyone gets along. > > My Ƀ0.02. > > On Saturday, April 04, 2015 03:37:39 PM WIld Cat wrote: > > These are community issues not personal issues. > > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs &lt;kinetical(a)comcast.net&gt; > wrote: > > > Sudoers, > > > > > > Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address > issues of > > > a personal nature and character assassinations or public shaming other > > > than > > > this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go to Sudo room > after > > > reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension. And it really > is a > > > great place. Can anyone think of another venue for these types of > > > discussions? > > > > > > Tracy > > > On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > > > > > > Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to re-enter and > > > said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from here and > handle > > > this like an adult." > > > > > > Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her that "you > need > > > to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also clarified by > > > saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence." > > > > > > Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but Darin did > not > > > give any details of what happened. > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat &lt;wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer spaces > policy > > >> on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well as > recent > > >> behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in violation of the > > >> safer > > >> spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive swearing, > intentional > > >> misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an > aggressive way > > >> that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has had a > history > > >> of > > >> being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual harassment > and > > >> inappropriate behavior. > > >> > > >> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do not feel > > >> safe with him being in the space during such process. > > >> > > >> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen and > Centi. > > >> that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. Pidgen > has > > >> been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement > problems - > > >> theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues. > > >> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call on the > > >> community to permanently ban Pidgen. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > >