10 Jun
2013
10 Jun
'13
3:24 p.m.
Rich Guy decides to move into new apartment across the street for
$3,000/month. Owner of his old apartment puts it back on the market for
$3,000/month. Four guys who have just scored H1B visas move in the next
day.
Four hackers lose their jobs to the guys with the H1B visas. Three of
them are living in tiny "studios" for $2,000/month, but one of them has
a 1-bedroom apartment at the same price, so all four of them
"consolidate" into the 1-BR together to save money.
That's how "the market" _really_ works. When there are more humans than
there are resources to employ and house the humans, the value of humans
declines relative to the resources needed to support them.
Meanwhile, since our unemployed hackers also have carpentry skills, they
move into the one-bedroom apartment together and build two sets of
double bunks in the bedroom for sleeping. They soundproof the closet to
provide "private space" for carrying on their sex lives, and use a
scheduling app to coordinate use of the closet, and use of the shower as
well.
They spend two hours a week having "house meetings" with topics such as
"who left a mess in the sex-closet this weekend?" and "which blend of
coffee to buy for the network-connected coffee maker?" The one who's
gay publishes sarcastic "back in the closet" jokes to a mailing list,
and the jokes go viral. One of them 3D-prints a multiple-hopper input
device for the coffee maker and a cup-sequencer for its output, enabling
it to handle four different blends of coffee at once, and is hailed as a
genius by the other three.
-G.
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On 13-06-10-Mon 1:46 PM, Jehan Tremback wrote:
@Eddie- Sorry about the eye! That was the default
Ubuntu avatar, and
it somehow got synced to my email when I ran Pidgin. So the eye is
actually open source! I'll get rid of it though if you want.
I'll go over this briefly, but there are better resources out there.
Let's say rich guy can afford $3000 dollars a month and wants to live
in SF. So landlord charges him $3000 for an apartment because it isn't
a closet. Since there is nowhere else to live in SF, rich guy pays
this. New luxury building opens across the street with really nice new
apartments for $3000 a month. Rich guy decides to move, and landlord
puts apartment back on the market for $3000. But because all of the
other rich guys are also living in the new luxury building, landlord
finds no tenants. Next month, landlord is forced to lower rent to
$2000 and 4 hackers move in. This is how the market works.
-Jehan
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com
<mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ok so your position is that the whole of the new housing will be
taken up by people who don't currently live in SF, want to, but
won't move into SF unless new housing is built.
Can you describe what it is about the new housing that will make
people who already have stable, adequate places to live
elsewhere move into it, when they've already decided theyre not
interested in living in any of the currently available sf
housing? Does this question make sense? What's special about the
new housing? What would make a person move to SF Only If new
housing is built? What is the scenario. I can think of two. One
silly and one not silly.
On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Eddie Che wrote:
Oy, greetings. First of all that Eye is really hateful, let's tone
that down a little! I've been against the eye because it is
oppressive
so, chill. @Jehan.
Building will increase the population in San Francisco. Not
house the
houseless and not bring down rents. These are upscale (condos?)
apartments, bringing the added keyword of gentrification.
I like the Spain example. Government here (County, City,
State, and
National) could give land that is being held by it, eg around
highway
off-ramps or hills or wherEVER to folks who are disenchanted
with...
corporate rule.
"liberating land from private control and corporate interests
and for
the common good of all people."
Can we hack that?
EMCHE, in a tree.
PS by the way, surprising about SF's vacant housing units @
https://www.baycitizen.org/blogs/pulse-of-the-bay/sf-leads-bay-area-vacant-…
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:41 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne
<g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote:
Imagine a news headline saying "Good news for the economy:
food
prices are
up for the third month in a row!"
Food-owners would
celebrate, and
foodless-rights advocates would protest, but
nothing would
change unless the
entire system of food-speculation was curbed.
Or imagine this: Dateline: Marinaleda, Spain. Municipal
government
GIVES
dispossessed people the land and building
materials to build
their own
homes, and pays contractors to provide assistance
with the
high-skill parts
such as plumbing. This is REAL and it's
happening NOW.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22701384
"In the wake of Spain's property crash, hundreds of
thousands of
homes have
been repossessed. While one regional government
says it will
seize
repossessed properties from the banks, a little
town is
doing away with
mortgages altogether. ... In Marinaleda,
residents like
42-year-old
father-of-three, David Gonzalez Molina, are
building their
own homes.
"The town hall in this ... town an hour-and-a-bit east of
Seville,
has given
David 190 sq m (2,000 sq ft) of land. ... The
bricks and
mortar are also a
gift... from the regional government of
Andalusia. ... Only
once his home is
finished will he start paying 15 euros (£13)
[approx. $26] a
month, to the
regional government, to refund the cost of other
building
materials. ...
"...[The town's] Mayor Juan Manuel Sanchez Gordillo is known
for
occupying
land belonging to the wealthy in Andalusia. ...
Last summer,
he and his
left-wing union comrades stole from supermarkets
and handed
out the food to
the poor. "I think it is possible that a
home should be a
right, and not a
business, in Europe", he argues. Mayor
Sanchez Gordillo
pours scorn on
"speculators"....
---
Think outside the box, and you might end up thinking like
Mayor Sanchez
Gordillo.
What happens when home prices and rents keep increasing
while average
income
levels have barely budged since 1974?
What happens to the lives of people, when the health of an
economy in
large
part depends on relentless increase in the price
of a vital
necessity that
is also a fixed resource, such as the square
footage in
which to eat, sleep,
and wash?
Meanwhile developers are building "luxury" apartments, but
the
number of
"affordable" units isn't specified
and always turns out to
be less than
first claimed. How is it that anyone has a
"right" to
luxury, at the
expense of others' poverty and homelessness?
At root, this isn't a race issue of black and white, though
the
guardians of
privilege benefit mightily when it's framed
that way, and
people who have
common cause are divided against each other. At
root, it's
a class issue of
green and red.
Land speculation is a broken machine running an obsolete
operating
system,
that's begging to get "rooted."
-G
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On 13-06-08-Sat 3:06 PM, Sonja Trauss wrote:
I know, it's so outrageous. This line, "The notion of smart
growth --- also
referred to as urban infill --- has been around
for years,
embraced by a
certain type of environmentalist, particularly
those
concerned with
protecting open space."
Yeah, the type of environmentalist that is an
environmentalist - what is
this supposed to mean!
Also I guess (I hope) these progressives don't realize that
in
opposing
development in Bayview, they are contributing to
keeping
blacks overall
poorer than whites.
Putting renters aside for a minute, let's consider similarly
situated
black
and white homeowners, in similar income black and
white
neighborhoods. If
these neighborhoods are in a city that is growing
in wealth
and population
(like san francisco) both homeowners should be
able to look
forward to their
house values increasing, right? NO. House values
at first
only increase in
the white neighborhoods, because the new
residents, moving
to SF from all
--
Eddie Miller, BU '10
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