[sudo-discuss] Re: Temporary Ban of Jake from Omni Commons (fwd)

On 1/7/24 20:05, E via sudo-discuss wrote: * I have deep reservations about the actions taken at yesterday's “retreat.” I informed my co-delegate that I would be delayed by one hour and ultimately arrived at the meeting at approximately 3:30pm. Jamal, Angela, Jemma, Anwar, Silver, Patrik, Yar, Paige, Toan, and John were there in person. Our newly hired facilitator, Jamal, was dictating the above letter to Paige. Jake was not present. I was told that before I arrived, Jamal had called a vote on what accountability measure would be suitable to address “the Jake problem.” During this vote, delegates John (LL), Patrik (CCL), Paige (SR), and Natalie (SB) voted in favor of inflicting this punishment and Toan (FNB) blocked the measure. Toan’s block was overruled and the issue was then passed by consensus-minus one. Paige did not consult with or inform me that this vote was taking place. Jamal asked me to keep this information secret from Jake. I found this request objectionable as this was allegedly meant to be an open meeting. The meeting notes on the wiki say barely anything about how and why this decision was reached. Jake was tried, convicted, and harshly sentenced - in absence - without a chance to hear any charges, defend himself or plead his case. Abandoning due process is not restorative in any way - it’s shameful - it makes the meeting seem less about accountability and more about silencing dissent. When I consulted with my co-delegate after the meeting, I asked if they believed that they had voted in line with the wishes of our collective - they acknowledged that they had not done so and would understand if they were asked to step down from the position. I understand that Paige was under a lot of pressure and clearly cares deeply about our community. I have great esteem for Paige and appreciation for much of the work they’ve done in our space, however, it looks like the meeting may have escalated more quickly than anyone could have expected. When I asked if it was possible to appeal this judgment I was directed to consult with Jamal. I call upon all people of sudoroom who share my fondness for due process and distaste for secret trials to object by responding to this thread and making your views clear. Last night, judgment was passed against one of our members without that person even being present, and fundamental structural changes were made to our organization without consultation of the general membership. * I agree with Eric, reservations. I have read the notes from this meeting and do not feel like they support this action. Also, perhaps I'm wrong, but this was not billed as a delegates meeting with plenary powers. Proposals like this should be announced on the lists and discussed within the collectives before being peremptorily voted upon. This is what happened when we asked the CLP to leave. Maybe then folks like the co-delegate from the sudoroom and others would actually show up and join the discussions and the decisions would have more legitimacy. I don't see any evidence that this proposal was discussed in any of the sudoroom meeting notes (I've been even more disengaged than usual because of holiday house guests and pressing personal health distractions). https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2024/01/05_06_Delegates To me this feels a little like a purge after a struggle session, and a violation of basic democratic norms, to say nothing of the hallowed notion of consensus. This matter should be referred back to the collectives for discussion, not suddenly unilaterally taken by this small self-selecting group with no prior notice. The sudoroom should weigh in on this ban as a collective, will there be a meeting this Wednesday? Ed * -Eric Sudoroom Co-delegate * _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org More options at https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ -- +++++++++++++++++++sig hell+++++++++++++++++++ Edmund Joseph Biow328 Haddon Road Oakland, California 94606 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/328+Haddon+Road%0D%0AOakland,+California+94606?entry=gmail&source=g> (510) 763-0591 (dumb landline, no caller ID, answering machine, preferred) (415) 623-6473 (cell, I monitor the landline more frequently) EMAIL:biow@sonic.net (personal) - biow(a)riseup.net (political) - ejbiow(a)gmail.com (large attachments) - ebiow(a)yasashi.net (bcc) ejbiow(a)yahoo.com (commercial) IM (Instant Messaging, like text messaging but for computers) ejbiow(a)gmail.com - ejbiow(a)yahoo.com - biow(a)riseup.net - sometimes "Gnudnik" on irc.libera.chat Skype username: edmundbiow To subscribe or unsubscribe to the lists for which I'm an administrator send an email to the following: Subscribe:occupyoakland-subscribe@lists.riseup.netoscargrantcommittee-subscribe@lists.riseup.netoaklandprivacyworkinggroup-subscribe@lists.riseup.netoaklandpublicbank-subscribe@lists.riseup.netoccupyoaklanddiscuss-subscribe@lists.riseup.netoaklandlivablewagediscussion-subscribe@lists.riseup.net (dormant)occupyoaklandkitchen-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net (dormant) Unsubscribe:occupyoakland-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.netoscargrantcommittee-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.netoaklandprivacyworkinggroup-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.netoaklandpublicbank-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.netoccupyoaklanddiscuss-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net Relatively secure EMAIL: You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure our messages. 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