22 Jan
2014
22 Jan
'14
11:53 a.m.
eddan,
thank you for this! i will come to sudo tonight. Is the meeting at 6:30, or
what is the time?
What is needed are white papers against the dac, that set out clearly the
actual scope of the dac and stake out our position against it in
point-by-point terms at the level of moral-political logic. Does anything
like that exist?
Showing up at public comment at council meetings is fine, but frankly at
the same time the attitudes of some at public comment also has had a
tendency to just piss off the various people in govt who are also against
the dac and mostly ignore the content. These people, various aides and
such, who really are on our side, need be able to articulate arguments
against the dac in a noncombative manner, that can be framed in a language
that isnt polemical or too emotional but simply sensible.
Im going to start a working group / class out of baps on this also -
best,
david
david
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote:
Hi David & Sudo folk -
Just wanted to remind folks that the Oakland Privacy Working Group
(meeting tonight at Sudo Room) has been trying to coordinate a robust and
effective response to the Oakland DAC funding in this crucial several week
window at the City Council.
It is of course important for everyone who's willing to work to try and
stop this to do what they can. It might be helpful though to make sure
coordination is taking place so that one part of our collective effort
isn't seen as legitimizing a process we are trying to shut down by
supporting it through fixing it.
Subscription to the listserv is at
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It
would also be great if you could support the petition at
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-mayor-and-city-council-of-oakland-ca-do…
continue spreading the word.
For those interested, there is also a meeting of the League of Women
Voters on this topic tonight (
http://www.lwvoakland.org/VOTER-January-2014.html). There will also be an
event of relevant interest in Berkeley tomorrow night (
https://www.eff.org/event/nsa-surveillance-and-our-almost-orwellian-state
).
-Eddan
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 at 6:55 PM, David Keenan wrote:
Hey guys,
a friend of mine who works for the city of Oakland and is meeting with the
ACLU on DAC stuff (to fix this nightnare) has asked me for
- a coherent, semi-formal argument against the DAC.
- Language against specific aspects of the DAC like the shot spotters,
facial recognition, etc. What they will be used for vs what they say they
will be used for, etc.
What resources do we have on hand that I can forward or write up for them?
Thanks!
David
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