Re: [sudo-discuss] Call for Facilitators / Participants in a sudo Men's Group

Something that might be fruitful is creating a list of resources and readings that are more easily digestible by geek men in particular, and of course humans in general. I'm cc'ing Tom from Noisebridge, who's been organizing a feminist book group for men at Noisebridge over the past couple of months. -totally unaffiliated ally of this proposal :) Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > sorry, not "weekly" I don't know how frequently such a group should > meet! > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Max, this is great: >> >> >> "Be radical sudo men. Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy." >> >> But let's also meet and talk, I think it will be fruitful. Please >> share your availability on this calendar, and we'll start a little weekly >> meeting group. I favor Mondays in case folks have similar interests: >> >> http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf >> >> // Matt >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> As I see it - or perhaps I am wanting to see it this way - this Men's >>> group's purpose would be to combat mindlessly performing inculcated >>> patriarchal motions. And in the process of de-conditioning yourself as a >>> "man", becoming a convincing, subtle and non-naggy argument for other men to >>> do the same. Slowly doing what we can do restore a gender equitable society, >>> from our side (while knowing that we can't do it ourselves, that's the sort >>> of thinking that got us here in the first place). >>> >>> So a thousand yeses to all of the above. But how do we do it? In >>> person meetings? Too self selecting. Online? Not visible enough. Making a >>> charter? Toothless. Doing volunteer work? Pointless doting. >>> >>> Here's my suggestion, and I'm open to more. Be radical sudo men. >>> Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy. >>> notconfusing >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Bethencourt >>> <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Great idea and I'm in if we can keep the time commitment relatively >>>> light >>>> >>>> On Feb 19, 2014 9:12 PM, "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey all, >>>>> >>>>> Positive responses at the weekly meeting. I started mulling it over >>>>> more and would like to add: >>>>> >>>>> I'm basically reaching out for help to men who would like to >>>>> actively contribute to improving the performance of gender dynamics and to >>>>> provide space for healing and support in sudo room. Please consider >>>>> contributing, no experts required, just an open mind. >>>>> >>>>> Max, >>>>> >>>>> I don't have any particular resources in mind at the moment, want >>>>> to be a bit open-ended, see what makes sense, then do some research and >>>>> document along the way. >>>>> >>>>> // Matt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think its a great idea! >>>>>> >>>>>> Would you mind linking to some resources that have explanations of >>>>>> what you're thinking about more specifically? I think people may have very >>>>>> different ideas of what a men's group might do. I can do some looking around >>>>>> later if need be. >>>>>> >>>>>> On February 19, 2014 6:48:50 PM PST, Matthew Senate >>>>>> <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would >>>>>>> want to facilitate or participate in a men's group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've previously participated in small groups like this and found >>>>>>> them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks have had >>>>>>> similar or different experiences. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something like >>>>>>> a regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss relevant >>>>>>> issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege, patriarchy, >>>>>>> gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these >>>>>>> topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any interest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Matt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >