15 Jan
2015
15 Jan
'15
4:21 p.m.
yes. I think this is it
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy#4..E2.80.8E_.E2.80.8FConseq…
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Karissa McKelvey <krmckelv(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
There needs to be clear guidelines surrounding who can
access the
commons otherwise the commons deteriorates.
If someone breaks a rule, they should be subject to consequences.
Is there no policy guideline surrounding physical violence in this
commons??
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
is
not be
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Hey all,
I am regularly moved by the sudo room community's compassion.
However, allow me to re-iterate a selection of my original message, facts
and my personal positions that have not changed:
> this is the second time in our new location (I was present the first
time)
> ... of Elliot escalating a situation to a
physical, even violent,
response
on his
part.
We must differentiate patterns of behavior from isolated incidents. This a pattern, and I think it reasonable to
anticipate the risk of repeat
behavior.
greater
I am no longer willing to tolerate this behavior
Nor do I believe anyone should.
> [Elliot's continued participation is] ... a greater cost, and even potential
risk, than a revocation of his privilege to use the space.
Consequences are hard to deal with, but we, as individuals, must hold
ourselves and each other responsible for our actions.
It has become more and more obvious to me that when individuals take
advantage of their access to the commons, it is most critical for our
community to act as stewards, to show resolve that such behavior will tolerated, and that paths to reconciliation begin
with recognizing that,
if
necessary, the privilege to access the commons
can, and will, be taken
away.
// Matt
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> The path forward for those interested in pursuing this issue is to put
it
> on the sudoroom meeting agenda, and show up
prepared to discuss a
proposal.
> No one involved in this issue was present at
the sudo room meeting last
> night. In all honesty we could really use more participation in those
> meetings by regular members other than Marc, myself and Matt.
>
> Thanks,
> Jenny
>
> On 01/15/2015 11:51 AM, Eske Silver wrote:
> > Thanks for the comments, and update.
> > Hopefully we'll figure out how to go about finding a solution for
this.
> >
> > ~ Korl
> >
> > 500px.com/eske
> > 510.689.4484
> > On Jan 15, 2015 11:47 AM, "Ryan" <yandoryn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Nothing was brought up at the meeting.
> > > On Jan 15, 2015 11:47 AM, "Ryan" <yandoryn(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > >> I fully support that with no edits, korl. I think it is full of
> > >> compassion and care for everyone.
> > >> On Jan 15, 2015 11:44 AM, "Eske Silver"
<eske.silver(a)gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Sent this a couple days go, but I forgot to hit 'reply
all':
> > >>>
> > >>> True, though, that we have parted ways with members, and guests,
for
> > >>> less than [multiple
physical incidents?] - comrade or not.
> > >>> While case-by-case is my prefered language, I also always stand
by a
> > >>> Zero Tolerance for abuse
toward another loving being.
> > >>>
> > >>> From what I've read, this seems the logical mean answer:
> > >>> For the sake of Safer Spaces, let's ask that Elliot appreciate
a
> > >>> request
> > >>> that they take leave, until we find a resolution...
> > >>> For the sake of nuance and case-by-case, I'd bet we could find
> > >>> someone
> > >>> who's known Elliot for a handful of human time increments, who
would
> > >>> be so
> > >>> kind as to reach out to Elliot. This person might then glean
what's
>>> going
>>> on with Elliot, and how he feels we (all) should/can procede with
>>> these
>>> issues.
>>> Then, for the sake of precident, if Elliot is willing and able, we
>>> can
>>> follow the guide and set on to conflict resolution...
>>> The rest is (in theory) easy, I'd say.
>>>
>>> Any edits?
>>>
>>> ~ Korl
>>>
>>> ~ Korl
>>>
>>> 500px.com/eske
>>> 510.689.4484
>>>
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