Re: [sudo-discuss] sudoroom vinyl cutter setup and training

here i'm replying to you and the sudoroom discuss list. does anyone at sudoroom want to host Cory to set up and demonstrate use of the vinyl cutter he donated? we will need a computer running windows (perhaps the laser cutter laptop?) and a DB9 gender bender adaptor for our rs232 to usb adaptor to fit. On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: Fridays or during the day weekdays are usually best for me. Can you add > the sudoroom to this thread? Krystof is also interested in learning to > use > it as well but I don't think I have his email > > On Jan 27, 2017 2:47 AM, "Jake" &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: > > if you email the sudoroom discuss list about it, there will surely be > people > who want to meet with you to learn how to use the vinyl cutter > > I'm at sudoroom every tuesday night,but when you came by i didn't arrive > until > right after you left. > > -jake > > > On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: > > Do you have any friends who have the free time? > >> >> On Jan 27, 2017 1:38 AM, "Jake" &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >> >> no not yet, still need a db9 adaptor and a windows computer and some free >> >>> time... >>> >>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>> >>> Did you get it running? >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2017 11:25 AM, "Jake" &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>> ok got it, thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, you can't have my adapter. I have the software. I can give you a >>>>> >>>>> download link. A straight through female to female should work for >>>>> what >>>>> >>>>>> you have now. or this: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/122202725149?vectorid=229466&lg >>>>>> eo=1&item=122202725149&rmvSB=true >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> i have a serial to USB, but the connector on the printer is the same >>>>>> as >>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>>> connector on the serial to USB, so they don't plug into one another. >>>>>>> Do >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have the adaptor cable you were using? or know the pinout? does it >>>>>>> need a >>>>>>> null-modem adaptor or is it straight-across? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> do you have the specialized software? or know what it's called? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was using a serial to USB. You can get them for $10 online. You >>>>>>> need >>>>>>> >>>>>>> specialized software to run it as well >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ok great! thanks for the donation! I was a little thrown off by >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> DB9M >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> connector on the printer, since DCE usually has a DB9F (female) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> do you have the serial cord you were using with it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would also like to get you set up to use it. Let schedule a >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that could happen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Cory Albert &lt;pcalbert(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I dropped off the cutter and some of the vinyl. I have a bunch >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> supplies to follow. Twice as much vinyl, extra supplies, car >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> magnets. I >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> also have an old pro Korg reverb effect module (rack mount) and >>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>> MIDI >>>>>>>>>>> controller that I would like to donate as well. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i'll be there soon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (415)533-3699 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am here with some stuff. Gonna bring it in >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2017 1:11 PM, "Jake" &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yes ok >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring the goods tomorrow evening if that works good for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2016 5:00 PM, "Cory Albert" &lt;pcalbert(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not gonna make it tonight. Maybe next week. You should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC that can be used to connect to the cutter. Windows 7 or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get you setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll take it all and I look forward to meeting Cory if he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hacking Tuesday at 7PM!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Effie wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope the question of which gear donations you want from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitively answered here? Seems to have literally got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swept >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eWaste conversation! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, &lt;hol(a)gaskill.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deed is done thanks to help from Ed and Morgan. Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in place as not really e-waste, also sorted some nice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal pieces over to the shop area. Some great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perforated/vented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~20Ga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet from that TV that's been taking up space. Still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up on CCL border, and the robot area could use some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to the wall tonight but space is looking great! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-13 11:58, Morgan Allen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just finished lunch, be there in a couple minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM, &lt;hol(a)gaskill.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm here and CRV 1/2way loaded up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 15:09, hol(a)gaskill.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed there is definitely more than will fit. Maybe convoy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both loaded up? I think if we can get one extra loader >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morgan, I think Ed and I can handle all the unloading. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 13:40, Ed Biow wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey 'rades, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it looks like more than can comfortably fit in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can materialize at about noon with my big-ass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F150. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special Ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2016 01:14 PM, Morgan Allen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can be there to help load but won't likely be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unload. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, &lt;hol(a)gaskill.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can do an Ewaste run tomorrow around noon - who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load/unload? Thikning 2-3 people to help load >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride shotgun and unload at facility. It's a CRV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount but should at least clear the walkway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake what is the unloading environment like, do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pile and toss things or how does it work? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-11 20:29, Jake wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the e-waste run is ready when you are, look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fridge, it's begging for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you know when it's happening i can try to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load the truck or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Morgan Allen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second the yes yes yes. Can help with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Jake < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake(a)spaz.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jake@spaz.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not so fast, Robb says yes to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to do an e-waste run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even have a place to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl cutter, as well as roll the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer/copier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mystery thing out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room and get it out of the building. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I'll take that as a yes. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over next week >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 5:29 PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &lt;sf99er(a)gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf99er(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:14 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &lt;jake(a)spaz.org <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake(a)spaz.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention sudoroom: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we want to accept a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutter which comes with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know noisebridge has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a lot more space >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the rolls of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the space. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he says the machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serial interface, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. I think we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer to dedicate to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be a barrier to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use it without going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software oddysey first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm guessing it looks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.sta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nford.edu/content/05-resources >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.st >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anford.edu/content/05-resources> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /02-processes/10-vinyl-cutting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /header-images/vinyl-cutter-medium.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Dec 2016, Cory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake: do you know of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printed artist's spaces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory could donate a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and vinyl cutters to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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Einstein is on the prowl. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> '---.~_ _ _& >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, you'll need to install an OpenPGP software on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll find a list of possible solutions for your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows: Kleopatra (http://gpg4win.de/download.ht >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml)Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GnuPG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.gnupg.org/downloa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/supported_systems.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS X: GPG Keychain (https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuite) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux: GnuPG (https://www.gnupg.org/related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _software/frontends.html) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android: OpenKeychain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://play.google.com/store >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /apps/details?id=org.sufficien >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlysecure.keychain) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS: iPGMail (https://itunes.apple.com/us/a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pp/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you set up PGP on your computer please import my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your local OpenPGP Key-Manager. The valid PGP keys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow(a)cubasoldarity.net & biow(a)riseup.net accounts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer is to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open sources Thunderbird email client (available on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windohs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O$X) & install the EnigMail Add-On. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/download/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/docum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entation/quickstart-ch1.php >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to exchange snooping-free messages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSA spend mondo bucks to discover the secret of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bube's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kartofel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kugel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>> 415-670-0267 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >