[sudo-discuss] Re: Proposal: Should we adopt a code of conduct and statement of intent?

Hey Cere, Awesome! — and yes, I agree that the quotes were just for temporary brainstorming. Thanks for removing them. I feel that we should retain the part about "foster and expand innovation and creativity” because it gives some specificity as to _ *how_* we envision the improvement of our community to be actualized. That is basically an attempt to summarize this section: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Bylaws#Article_3._Purpose I added that back, but kept the rest of your changes. What do you think? Eric On Apr 21, 2022, at 09:20, Cere Misc &lt;cere.misc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hey Eric, Thanks for those edits. After suggesting curiosity, I failed to include it in my own draft (lol) as it didn't quite make as much sense as I thought given the rest of what I wrote down. It's a big change from what you proposed, so I hope at least some of it speaks to you. I like the idea of having the quotes to brainstorm new writing but I worried about keeping them around as appeals to authority which might get us off on the wrong foot from an anarchist or cultural diversity perspective so I removed it from my draft. https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&… In the end, there is less written but I was sort of aiming for brevity anyway. Hope it's helpful. On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:58 PM Eric O'Connor &lt;eric(a)oco.nnor.org&gt; wrote: > That makes sense. > > I just made an edit to revise to emphasize curiosity more — and > included some quotes from famous people talking about it. Maybe we can > rephrase those statements and make that our own? > > Let me know what you think > > https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&… > > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About > > Eric > > On Apr 21, 2022, at 07:15, Cere Misc &lt;cere.misc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > The verb "curiosity" seems really central to me in terms of vision and > values (but esp vision). But I am struggling to propose exactly how that > could be worded. If others feel similarly, maybe something on that could > be added. > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:02 AM Eric O'Connor via sudo-discuss < > sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org&gt; wrote: > >> I made this page to try to address "statement of intent": >> >> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About >> >> It is not complete, and still includes noisebridge links because most >> of this is copy-paste. >> Please review/change it? >> >> Eric >> >> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, at 21:50, Jenny Ryan via sudo-discuss wrote: >> >> Agreed! >> On 4/17/22 06:04, Cere Misc wrote: >> >> >> One way I would describe openness is: genuine (non-antagonizing) >> curiosity. That is, not weaponizing curiosity as a "just asking questions" >> antagonistic rhetorical strategy. >> >> It seems easy to point to examples of "closedness" once we've >> encountered instances of them. By contrast, openness is weirdly hard to >> describe without referencing closedness. >> >> (sorry. philosophy is just where my head goes these days) >> >> >> >> 1) openness to sharing knowledge [whilst avoiding obnoxious >> mansplaining and acronym-everything, sharing and asking in turn, spirit of >> co-learning - we all can learn from each other, of course]; >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >> More options at >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >> More options at >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >> > >