Something that might be fruitful is creating a
list of resources and
readings that are more easily digestible by geek men in particular, and of
course humans in general. I'm cc'ing Tom from Noisebridge, who's been
organizing a feminist book group for men at Noisebridge over the past
couple of months.
-totally unaffiliated ally of this proposal :)
Jenny
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-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
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On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
sorry, not "weekly" I don't know
how frequently such a group should
meet!
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> Max, this is great:
>
>
> "Be radical sudo men. Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy."
>
> But let's also meet and talk, I think it will be fruitful. Please
> share your availability on this calendar, and we'll start a little weekly
> meeting group. I favor Mondays in case folks have similar interests:
>
>
http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf
>
> // Matt
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As I see it - or perhaps I am wanting to see it this way - this Men's
>> group's purpose would be to combat mindlessly performing inculcated
>> patriarchal motions. And in the process of de-conditioning yourself as a
>> "man", becoming a convincing, subtle and non-naggy argument for other
men
>> to do the same. Slowly doing what we can do restore a gender equitable
>> society, from our side (while knowing that we can't do it ourselves,
that's
>> the sort of thinking that got us here in the first place).
>>
>> So a thousand yeses to all of the above. But how do we do it? In
>> person meetings? Too self selecting. Online? Not visible enough. Making a
>> charter? Toothless. Doing volunteer work? Pointless doting.
>>
>> Here's my suggestion, and I'm open to more. Be radical sudo men.
>> Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy.
>> notconfusing
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
>> ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Great idea and I'm in if we can keep the time commitment relatively
>>> light
>>> On Feb 19, 2014 9:12 PM, "Matthew Senate"
<mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> Positive responses at the weekly meeting. I started mulling it over
>>>> more and would like to add:
>>>>
>>>> I'm basically reaching out for help to men who would like to
>>>> actively contribute to improving the performance of gender dynamics and
to
>>>> provide space for healing and support in sudo room. Please consider
>>>> contributing, no experts required, just an open mind.
>>>>
>>>> Max,
>>>>
>>>> I don't have any particular resources in mind at the moment, want
>>>> to be a bit open-ended, see what makes sense, then do some research and
>>>> document along the way.
>>>>
>>>> // Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Max B
<maxb.personal(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think its a great idea!
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you mind linking to some resources that have explanations of
>>>>> what you're thinking about more specifically? I think people may
have very
>>>>> different ideas of what a men's group might do. I can do some
looking
>>>>> around later if need be.
>>>>>
>>>>> On February 19, 2014 6:48:50 PM PST, Matthew Senate <
>>>>> mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would
>>>>>> want to facilitate or participate in a men's group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've previously participated in small groups like this and
found
>>>>>> them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks
have had
>>>>>> similar or different experiences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something
like
>>>>>> a regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss
relevant
>>>>>> issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege,
patriarchy,
>>>>>> gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these
>>>>>> topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any
interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
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