Ps. A new 3M P100 ventilating mask would also be provided while the active
cleaning is going on.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 10:01 David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That was my original proposal some months ago, but
that was veto’d because
the spoiled fridge is a really nice model
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 09:48 Autonomous <autonomous666(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe just start over?
>
>
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/zip?lat=37.79793283605427&lon=-122.…
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> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 9:31 AM David Keenan via sudo-discuss <
> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>
>> I defer to your judgement patrik re the uv-c; however I think it could
>> be done safely? if:
>>
>> - eyeglasses protective against UV-c are worn the entire time the UV-c
>> bulb is being handled or used.
>>
>> - while being handled, the uv-c bulb is attached to an extension cord
>> that is physically unplugged in to the wall.
>>
>> - the uv-c bulb (attached to the unpowered extension cord) is placed in
>> a fridge compartment with all shelving removed, and the compartment door is
>> closed as much as possible (is left open just a crack allowing the cord
>> through.) An electrostatic air purifier could be run at the same time.
>>
>> - 2 tarps are placed over the entire fridge, with a sign taped on front
>> stating for safety reasons, stating not to touch tarp / DNH unless you are
>> the person cleaning the fridge.
>>
>> - with the fridge thusly tarped, only then is the extension cord
>> powering the UV-c is plugged into wall, powering on the uv-c light.
>>
>> - the fridge is directly monitored by the person working on the fridge,
>> for 1-hour per fridge compartment, who could work on their laptop or
>> another task while this was happening.
>>
>> - the extension cord is physically unplugged from the wall prior to
>> shifting the light from one compartment to another, and prior to lifting
>> the tarp for any reason.
>>
>> - after it is finished, with the extension cord unplugged, the bulb is
>> also immediately disconnected from the extension cord and placed back in a
>> box well-labeled with warning etc.
>>
>> Do you think such precautions would be adequate?
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 05:40 Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think a UV-C bulb is the best way to go - those things can be
>>> bloody dangerous for anyone looking at them without the proper goggles -
>>> but we do happen to have one in CCL.
>>>
>>> I would recommend getting a good mask rated for mold spores - an
>>> N95/KN95 should do - and liberally spraying down the interior with bleach.
>>>
>>> I support paying Lovi if that is what it takes to get it done, and I'd
>>> be happy to pitch in for an hour or two.
>>>
>>> Patrik
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 4:13 AM David Keenan via sudo-discuss <
>>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I texted with Lovi the other day, who is still a pending member of
>>>> Sudo, and Lovi mentioned they would be willing to deep-clean Sudo's
>>>> deeply-spoiled fridge, if paid $25/hr cash and supplied with the
>>>> various means to do so.
>>>>
>>>> To my knowledge, no Sudoer has voluntarily pursued cleaning this
>>>> fridge for the last four months or so after the request went out. It was
>>>> also insisted that the fridge be kept and not dumped (Patrik thought it
was
>>>> unsalvageable due to the near-certainty of mold growing in inaccessible
>>>> places.) The fridge incubated a large quantiy spoiling food, unplugged,
for
>>>> an unknown number of months during the pandemic.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway - as Lovi is not yet a Sudo member, as a Sudo member I would
>>>> like to propose that Sudo take Lovi up on their offer, and supply:
>>>>
>>>> - an electrostatic air purifier, and a UV-C light bulb to help
>>>> passively de-mold in the first pass in all compartments. The total cost
for
>>>> both is expected to be <$80.
>>>>
>>>> - bleach, cleaning agents, sponges, paper towels, etc in the second
>>>> pass. Expected cost is <$20 in the event Omni's cleaning closet
lacks these
>>>> items.
>>>>
>>>> In terms of active labor I believe at least four hours should be
>>>> budgeted at a minimum, = $100.
>>>>
>>>> Expected cost: $180.
>>>> Contingency: $20.
>>>> Total: $200.
>>>>
>>>> In return - if Lovi still has capacity and inclination to engage with
>>>> this task - I would propose that Lovi provide a do-by date to complete
the
>>>> work, for the benefit of all sudoers who wish to once more preserve
edible
>>>> food in a sanitary fashion.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone objects to this proposal, lmk..?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> David
>>>>
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