28 Feb
2013
28 Feb
'13
6:07 p.m.
I think a statement is well and proper. I also think arguing the right
to disinterest inquiry is the proper line.
To the earlier back and forth about "known gang members" ... one of the
differences between the people at SudoRoom and "known gang members" is
simply that to be classified as "known" is to be stripped of your right
to disinterested inquiry. All of your actions having been prejudged as
interested and malicious.
If the letter is worded right we can make a statement about the lock
picking class and about the direction policing in Oakland has taken.
Michael
Eddan Katz wrote:
J.D. - do you think there should be an additional
statement from Sudo
Room?
Before we proceed any further - does anyone have objections to writing
such a letter or signing on to it? What the statement says is another
matter for which Sudo member objections should also feel empowered to
raise. Comments can be made anonymously on the etherpad or on IRC, if
someone isn't comfortable doing it on the list.
sent from eddan.com <http://eddan.com>
On Feb 28, 2013, at 5:15 PM, "J.D. Zamfirescu" <zamfire(a)gmail.com
<mailto:zamfire@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah, we were hoping to publish it tonight. Let
me try to draft
something and send it on?
Part of me is concerned about editing a public statement on a public
list...
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Eddan <eddan(a)clear.net
<mailto:eddan@clear.net>> wrote:
J.D. - where were you thinking of publishing this letter?
I think it would make for a stronger and more thoughtful response
if there was a collective voice signing on to it either as a
group or listed as individuals.
With the help of the collective editorial prowess of the Sudo
list, do you think you would be ready to publish it before
tomorrow morning?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Eddan <eddan(a)clear.net
<mailto:eddan@clear.net>> wrote:
I think the question is, rather - Can you get hired by a
locksmith company without knowing how to pick a lock?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:01 PM, <thadwooster(a)gmail.com
<mailto:thadwooster@gmail.com>> wrote:
I could be totally wrong on this, but I believe
locksmiths are required to be bonded, fingerprinted and
licensed.
On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:59 PM, rusty lindgren wrote:
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I sent an email to that newb at the newspaper... UM,
where do they think locksmiths learn stuff? Should they
have to pay to become a locksmith???
So stupid.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marina Kukso
<marina.kukso(a)gmail.com <mailto:marina.kukso@gmail.com>>
wrote:
ftfy!: THIS is unconscionable.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Eddan
<eddan(a)clear.net <mailto:eddan@clear.net>> wrote:
Now, this requires a response. Has anybody
started drafting something? If not, I will.
...
Oakland Police Chief Howard Jordan
<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=bayarea&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Howard+Jordan%22>
was
not pleased.
"I'm in shock that people would provide a class
to teach people a skill to violate the law,"
Jordan said. "It's unconscionable."
Lock-pick instructor Michael Fitzhugh
<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=bayarea&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Michael+Fitzhugh%22>
is
a member of TOOOL (The Open Organisation Of
Lockpickers
<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=bayarea&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Open+Organisation+Of+Lockpickers%22>),
a Netherlands-based outfit that teaches and
holds national and international lock-picking
events annually. In their world, lock picking is
done for sport and bragging rights. But, he
says, it's also a useful tool if you lock
yourself out of your home.
Jordan has a more conventional solution to that
problem: "Call a locksmith!"
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Quan-s-wrong-note-on-lock-picking-cla…
Even worse than Quan, this guy's so desperate to
change the subject about the incompetence of the
OPD in news story after news story.
Unconscionable!?! This coming from a police
department that was about to go into an
unprecedented federal receivership for its
failure to reform; not to mention a police
department seared with a global reputation for
brutality, racism, and excessive means; and
whose fundamental miscalculations and
mismanagement of the response to Occupy cost the
city millions of dollars.
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