12 Apr
2022
12 Apr
'22
9:01 p.m.
Assuming there are no objections, I definitely agree that we should make
both the code of conduct and the safer space policy prominent on the
website and wiki.
Jenny's description of openness suits me. Although I know I previously said
that maybe it should be more specific, Jenny's description sort of made me
realize that maybe openness doesn't really have as much vagary as I
thought. I don't want to make this any longer than needed, and maybe we all
kinda get what openness and transparency, etc mean enough that more words
aren't necessary, unless anyone else wants to.
Jenny's thoughts also remind me of The Platinum Rule: "Do unto others as
they'd like done unto them". Perhaps we could phrase this as,
*"We recognize that different hackers have diverse preferences in working
and collaboration styles and seek to accommodate one another flexibly. We
communicate with each other in the manner each is comfortable with, and
each act as stewards of our shared workspace with the intention to make it
productive for others before ourselves. We ask one another their
preferences directly to avoid making assumptions and invite one another to
communicate their preferences candidly."*
I'm concerned that might be a little too poetic rather than direct, though.
Although I've included it to give people options, I think I'd prefer
something a little more straightforward, like this:
*"Please maintain the cleanliness of the space to prioritize its shared use
above personal use. Be aware that the more frequently you are in the space,
the more actively you should work to make it available to others, both
through chores like emptying the trash and behavior, such as offering
workspace and tools to others."*
*"Seek to communicate with others in the ways they prefer. Ask their
preferences for conversation or technical advice rather than assuming."*
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 4:12 PM Jenny Ryan via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
Coming in cold here - but just to say, the Safer Space
Policy on Omni's
wiki was directly adapted from Sudo Room's, and I'm confused as to why its
not clearly present on the sudoroom wiki....
I think the Safer Space Policy should be front and center alongside a Code
of Conduct more explicit to these norms of behavior and responsibility
being discussed - so am very much enjoying this thread :)
I would like to propose that we strongly align with community engagement:
1) openness to sharing knowledge [whilst avoiding obnoxious mansplaining
and acronym-everything, sharing and asking in turn, spirit of co-learning -
we all can learn from each other, of course];
2) attention to newcomers whilst not being overly so [consent-first]; and
3) active stewardship of the space [and by this I mean explicitly *not*
domestic use (which is not just sleeping but also just "occupying the
space" as a base of operations) - rather, initiating projects and tending
to the space itself, its health and hygiene and accessibility - not just
one's use of it for their own personal projects, though that's fine, but
some level of helping to improve. Always leave the space a bit better than
it was when you arrive, even if that's just taking out a bag of trash or
wiping down a sink.
It is hard to code such things into a 'code of conduct' tho ;) Just wanted
to share thoughts and ideas from being a sudoer since 2011!
go sudo go!
My two cents,
Jenny (who will return... someday soon... maybe tonight...?)
On 4/11/22 16:16, Eric O'Connor via sudo-discuss wrote:
Yeah, I agree that with the values and purpose/intent it’s more important
to be specific.
Especially because I think the stated intent (based on sudoroom’s wiki:
social change, community engagement, etc.) is actually quite a bit more
ambitious relative to, say, Noisebridge, whose vision statement is
(paraphrasing) “provide infrastructure and opportunities for people
interested in <various art/technology topics>”.
What does openness and “hack the planet” mean to you? Why are those things
important as values? Are those things also our intent, or is there a
separate mission/purpose?
Eric
On Apr 11, 2022, at 13:26, Andrew R Gross <arg5029(a)gmail.com>
<arg5029(a)gmail.com> wrote:
These are great. Personally, I don’t feel the need to overthink things or
reinvent the wheel, so I’d be pretty happy to adopt the community standards
pretty much unchanged. I’m happy to help people edit it as they see fit,
but I think it’s overall definitely good enough.
I think the statements of values are similarly pretty good, although I’d
like to edit them to be a bit more specific. For instance, I think
articulating what openness means, and what what it means to hack the
planet, and why, and in the pursuit of what outcome. But again, I’d say
they’re good enough that I’d support them as is if others wanted to take
the path of least resistance.
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 9:33 AM Eric O'Connor <eric(a)oco.nnor.org> wrote:
Here’s some resources from Sudoroom’s wiki and
other hacker/maker space
pages that could be useful reference material.
I like how Noisebridge has a specific guidelines on community norms.
How is sudoroom’s purpose different from these other communities?
Part of it might just be a geographical niche, but there are probably
intentional cultural differences as well? What are those?
—
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Standards
https://www.acemakerspace.org/about/
https://www.acemakerspace.org/safety-and-culture/
https://techliminal.com/about-us/
https://www.rpscollective.org/
http://nimbyspace.org/what-is-nimby/
*From the Wiki :*
- We're into *technology* and where it intersects with *social
justice*, *sustainability*, *education* and *solidarity*.
- We strive to be an *open*, *transparent*, *horizontal* and
*welcoming* community where all are supported and free to learn,
create, gather, collaborate, work, play and more! .
- We've got tons of *tools <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Category:Tools>* for
you to use from a *3D printer* to *public computer terminals*, Math
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Math> projects, a *big huge library* and *all
kinds of gadgets*!
- We are exclusively *volunteer-run* and supported through *donations
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Gittip>*!! Learn more about membership
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Membership>.
- Our slogan is: *HACK THE PLANET!*
[image: Sudo-intro-comic.jpg]
Eric
On Apr 9, 2022, at 22:51, Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
Should we establish a statement of purpose and a code of conduct?
I think Sudoroom should adopt a code of conduct, because currently our
only behavioral rules are the Omni Commons Safer Space policy:
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy
These rules are vital, but are limited to a broad set of wildy
unacceptable behavior anywhere. They don't outline minor and hackerspace
specific guidelines on ideal and discouraged behavior.
PB asked if we have any statement defining our most basic principle or
goal, and while it sounds like there is a lot of diverse informal wisdom,
there isn't a clear singular statement of intent. So I'd like to propose we
agree on one of those as well.
I think a starting point for a code of conduct would be something like
"Try to enhance the experience of others in Sudoroom and avoid impeding
it", and then we could go into a few more specific examples like cleaning
up, asking people if they'd like companionship or space when working in the
space at the same time, etc.
I don't have any clear suggestions for what our statement of purpose
would be, but I like the values of justice and openness.
Thoughts?
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
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