Re: [sudo-discuss] sudoroom vinyl cutter setup and training

Thursday nights. Daytime during the week or weekend is usually more flexible for me except when I have big work projects going on. On Jan 31, 2017 10:41 AM, &lt;hol(a)gaskill.com&gt; wrote: Could we do this tonight at hardware hack night? I moved the large > format > scanner from basement (which someone put in the e-waste pile?) that > would > be awesome for digitizing hand-drawn designs to convert to vector and > run > off on the vinyl cutter. Should be a dual rs232 card somewhere there > which > I am happy to install physically and driverally in a spare PC. Might > even > make sense to set this up in the basement next to other printy > equipment. > Thanks again for the donation! > > On 2017-01-27 11:59, Cory Albert wrote: > > I think I got the gender bender covered. I have three and one is > bound to > be straight through > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: > > here i'm replying to you and the sudoroom discuss list. >> >> does anyone at sudoroom want to host Cory to set up and demonstrate >> use >> of the >> vinyl cutter he donated? we will need a computer running windows >> (perhaps the >> laser cutter laptop?) and a DB9 gender bender adaptor for our rs232 >> to usb >> adaptor to fit. >> >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >> >> Fridays or during the day weekdays are usually best for me. Can you >> add >> >>> the sudoroom to this thread? Krystof is also interested in learning >>> to >>> use >>> it as well but I don't think I have his email >>> >>> On Jan 27, 2017 2:47 AM, "Jake" &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>> >>> if you email the sudoroom discuss list about it, there will surely be >>> people >>> who want to meet with you to learn how to use the vinyl cutter >>> >>> I'm at sudoroom every tuesday night,but when you came by i didn't >>> arrive >>> until >>> right after you left. >>> >>> -jake >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>> >>> Do you have any friends who have the free time? >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 27, 2017 1:38 AM, "Jake" &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>> no not yet, still need a db9 adaptor and a windows computer and some >>>> free >>>> >>>> time... >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Did you get it running? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2017 11:25 AM, "Jake" &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ok got it, thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, you can't have my adapter. I have the software. I can give >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> download link. A straight through female to female should work >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you have now. or this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/122202725149?vectorid=229466&lg >>>>>>>> eo=1&item=122202725149&rmvSB=true >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i have a serial to USB, but the connector on the printer is the >>>>>>>> same as >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> connector on the serial to USB, so they don't plug into one >>>>>>>>> another. >>>>>>>>> Do >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> have the adaptor cable you were using? or know the pinout? >>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> need a >>>>>>>>> null-modem adaptor or is it straight-across? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> do you have the specialized software? or know what it's >>>>>>>>> called? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was using a serial to USB. You can get them for $10 >>>>>>>>> online. You >>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> specialized software to run it as well >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ok great! thanks for the donation! I was a little thrown >>>>>>>>>> off by >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> DB9M >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> connector on the printer, since DCE usually has a DB9F >>>>>>>>>> (female) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> do you have the serial cord you were using with it? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would also like to get you set up to use it. Let schedule >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> that could happen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Cory Albert < >>>>>>>>>>> pcalbert(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I dropped off the cutter and some of the vinyl. I have a >>>>>>>>>>>> bunch >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> supplies to follow. Twice as much vinyl, extra supplies, >>>>>>>>>>>> car >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> magnets. I >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> also have an old pro Korg reverb effect module (rack mount) >>>>>>>>>>>>> and an >>>>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI >>>>>>>>>>>>> controller that I would like to donate as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i'll be there soon >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (415)533-3699 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am here with some stuff. Gonna bring it in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2017 1:11 PM, "Jake" &lt;jake(a)spaz.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes ok >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring the goods tomorrow evening if that works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2016 5:00 PM, "Cory Albert" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pcalbert(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not gonna make it tonight. Maybe next week. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC that can be used to connect to the cutter. Windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get you setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Jake &lt;jake(a)spaz.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll take it all and I look forward to meeting Cory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hacking Tuesday at 7PM!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Effie wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope the question of which gear donations you want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitively answered here? Seems to have literally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swept >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eWaste conversation! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, &lt;hol(a)gaskill.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deed is done thanks to help from Ed and Morgan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in place as not really e-waste, also sorted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal pieces over to the shop area. Some great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perforated/vented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~20Ga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet from that TV that's been taking up space. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up on CCL border, and the robot area could use some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to the wall tonight but space is looking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-13 11:58, Morgan Allen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just finished lunch, be there in a couple minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM, &lt;hol(a)gaskill.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm here and CRV 1/2way loaded up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 15:09, hol(a)gaskill.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed there is definitely more than will fit. Maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convoy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both loaded up? I think if we can get one extra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morgan, I think Ed and I can handle all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unloading. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 13:40, Ed Biow wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey 'rades, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it looks like more than can comfortably fit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can materialize at about noon with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big-ass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F150. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special Ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2016 01:14 PM, Morgan Allen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can be there to help load but won't likely be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unload. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hol(a)gaskill.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can do an Ewaste run tomorrow around noon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load/unload? Thikning 2-3 people to help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride shotgun and unload at facility. It's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount but should at least clear the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walkway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake what is the unloading environment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pile and toss things or how does it work? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-11 20:29, Jake wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the e-waste run is ready when you are, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fridge, it's begging for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you know when it's happening i can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load the truck or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Morgan Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second the yes yes yes. Can help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake(a)spaz.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jake@spaz.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not so fast, Robb says yes to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to do an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even have a place to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl cutter, as well as roll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer/copier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mystery thing out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room and get it out of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Cory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I'll take that as a yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over next week >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:29 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &lt;sf99er(a)gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf99er(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4:14 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &lt;jake(a)spaz.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake(a)spaz.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention sudoroom: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we want to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutter which comes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know noisebridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a lot more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the space. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he says the machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serial interface, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. I think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use it without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software oddysey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm guessing it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.sta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nford.edu/content/05-resources >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.st >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anford.edu/content/05-resources> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /02-processes/10-vinyl-cutting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /header-images/vinyl-cutter-medium.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Dec 2016, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake: do you know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printed artist's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donate a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If God is watching us the least we can do is be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entertaining. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it is also probably the most we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edmund Joseph Biow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 328 Haddon Road >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland, California 94606 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (510) 763-0591 (try first, messages checked in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caller ID, leave number) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415) 623-6473 (cell) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow(a)sonic.net - biow(a)riseup.net - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow(a)sonic.net - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ejbiow(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebiow(a)yasashi.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IM: ejbiow(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe to the lists I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribe: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-sub >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-subscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-unsubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-unsubscri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-uns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-unsubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-unsubscri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-u >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nsubscribe(a)lists.riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (\__/) .~ ~. )) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /O O ./ .' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {O__, \ { >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / . . ) \ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |-| '-' \ } )) Warning squirrels: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .( _( )_.' Einstein is on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prowl. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> '---.~_ _ _& >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, you'll need to install an OpenPGP software >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll find a list of possible solutions for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows: Kleopatra ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gpg4win.de/download.ht >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml)Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GnuPG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.gnupg.org/downloa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/supported_systems.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS X: GPG Keychain ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuite) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux: GnuPG (https://www.gnupg.org/related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _software/frontends.html) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android: OpenKeychain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://play.google.com/store >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /apps/details?id=org.sufficien >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlysecure.keychain) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS: iPGMail (https://itunes.apple.com/us/a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pp/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you set up PGP on your computer please >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your local OpenPGP Key-Manager. The valid PGP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow(a)cubasoldarity.net & biow(a)riseup.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open sources Thunderbird email client >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (available on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windohs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O$X) & install the EnigMail Add-On. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thunderbird/all.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/download/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/docum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entation/quickstart-ch1.php >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to exchange snooping-free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSA spend mondo bucks to discover the secret of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bube's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kartofel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kugel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > > -- > Cory Albert > 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267> > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > _______________________________________________