18 Dec
2014
18 Dec
'14
11:13 a.m.
A little holiday trolling...come on, cut me some slack, jill & jack.
B t w I changed my mind & am producing two or three more issues of my award-winning,
bestselling, antiestablishmentally ill anarcho-zine, SF RESISTOR! Isn't that neat?
Here's a little teaser....page 3 from the 2nd zine-in-progress, which will be done by
xmas.
It features notes on printing & design that may be of interest to a few techminded
zinephile
types. Those people still exist, right? I'm not completely alone here?
Oh, &...something I just wrote:
Now I lay me down to sleep,
mystified by all the sheep
who pray the bank their homes to take
little guessing what's at stake
On Thu, December 18, 2014 8:13 am, niki wrote:
I'm sorry that I won't be able to make the
meeting on Thursday and thanks,
Korl, for taking this up.
I appreciate your compassion and agree that we should approach the
situation with empathy - I would prefer for us to find a way to work with
Shawn so that both he and those who interact with him feel comfortable in
the space, if that's possible.
<3
Niki
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Eske Silver <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Not all who wander are lost.
The topic was added to the delegate agenda to include All of the recent
incidents and iteractions with guests who have caused physical discomfort,
and/or uneasiness, distrust, alienation, etc, etc, etc.
Shawn is included in this group, as he is one of the guests who has
behaved in abusive (wide definiton, mind) ways not only toward people, but
toward the commons itself.
We ought to have a communal discussion about All similar characters,
interactions and concerns.
If someone would contact John Benson to ask if he would be willing to help
us specifically with Shawn, that would be best.
Since his behavior doesn't seem entirely in his control, we should of
course approach his case with empathy, but also that we cannot tolerate
abusive behavior of any kind, as it wholly violates the goal of the commons
being a place where people feel safe, respected, supported, etc.
Whichever decision is made, that concerns Shawn and/or other current and
future aggrevators, I think it's only fair that all who are and have been
affected by the individual/s and their behavior, ought to be present and
have their concerns voiced. But perhaps both situations concurrently
wouldn't hurt.
~ Korl
500px.com/eske
510.689.4484
On Dec 18, 2014 2:27 AM, "Eske Silver" <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Aye, aye. Slashes, bruh, slashes! Not commas!
Sheesh.
~ Korl
500px.com/eske
510.689.4484
On Dec 17, 2014 1:23 PM, Løng$hanks <longshanks(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> As a rude, aggressive, abusive drunk squatter, I find this offensive.
>
> On Tue, December 16, 2014 10:29 pm, Eske Silver wrote:
> > I added to the agenda as a general item (dealing with
> > rude/aggressive/abusive/drunk guests/squatters... etc)
> >
> > ~ Korl
> >
> > 500px.com/eske
> > 510.689.4484
> > On Dec 16, 2014 4:03 PM, "Marc Juul" <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Eske Silver <eske.silver(a)gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I too have had less than steller interactions, and witness similar
> with
> >>> others, including Niki on one or more occasions.
> >>> It's a shame that he does not seem to respect the space. I
understsnd
> >>> that he's in a bad way, and has little other options. But I feel we
> are in
> >>> need of a sit down with him about how he might conduct himself here
> in a
> >>> way that is at least slightly less aggravating/ alienating/ etc.
> >>> That being said, I have years of experience interacting with
> mentally ill
> >>> (decades), socially inept, and homeless people. At some point a line
> needs
> >>> to be drawn. We are not his parents, nor are we responsible for his
> >>> situation. We are not obligated to light ourselves on fire to keep
> someone
> >>> else warm.
> >>> Are a few of us free some time soon to meet up to discuss this in
> person?
> >>> To discuss in general the handful of people who have acted in
> similar (and
> >>> worse) ways recently, and try to find a solution.
> >>>
> >> Could this be a subject for tomorrow's meeting?
> >>
> >> --
> >> marc/juul
> >>
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> >
>
>
> --
> Not all who wander are lost.
>
>
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