15 Oct
2014
15 Oct
'14
10:05 p.m.
In all fairness, backspace needs a larger space to do its work. We plan to
have a number of practitioners as well as public clinic days and it is not
realistic to have them in small massage rooms only. We have concerns about
how much time backspace will have to do its work in the commons; and
recognize that with commons there can be no guarantees about the amount of
time, which can dramatically stymie our work.
There are other collectives at the omni who have a lot of dedicated,
non-shared space to do their necessary work. Part of our proposal is to
offer the den in part as a commons, which is a new way of using space in
the Omni, and an important moment to model how this can be done. I really
hope that this radical sharing is not being overlooked.
Backspace is a founding member and has been paying $1000 rent for space it
doesn't have, and therefore to date it has not been able to function
(including attracting new members who frankly will be primarily looking for
good space in a supportive community).
I just wanted to let people know that backspace truly needs support for
space. I'm trying my best to make our needs very clear because otherwise
the project of a wellness community at the Omni ( in my personal opinion)
seems quite imperiled.
Sara
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014, Eske Silver <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote:
There is a list of names per room already on the wiki
:)
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Floorplan#Draft_Name_Proposal
~ Korl
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Mia Bruch <virtuallymia(a)gmail.com
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wrote:
--
Let us be together,
Let us eat together,
Let us be vital together,
Let us be radiating truth,
radiating the light of life,
Never shall we denounce anyone,
never entertain negativity. -- The
Upanishads
BAPS had our weekly meeting tonight, and we
discussed the Backspace
proposal. BAPS members share Emji's concern about privileging a particular
collective's use of the den, and would like it to remain a common space
stewarded by the commons wg.
Mia
On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:21 PM, {emji spero} wrote:
Hello,
I'm excited to see this project coming together! I have a concern about
the proposed use of the "Den." This space is perfect for working quietly,
Public School classes, meetings, poetry readings, and other kinds of
mid-size group events. I would like to see the upstairs commons space, The
Den, remain a commons.
I know that Omni dance had been taking steps to make the Disco room a
space that is reservable by the hour, and I think that space is much better
suited toward wellness practice, yoga, meditation, etc, and would suggest
that Backspace and Omnidance be in communication about organizing the use
of that space for these purposes.
Emji
Timeless, Infinite Light
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:42 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com
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wrote:
Great! I am excited at the prospect of more
groups being open to sharing
spaces with one another.
I do think it would be helpful, however, to have a baseline such as,
Backspace will allow for other groups to use the space no less than X% of
the time even if that's only 2 hours once a week.. but maybe that's too
bureaucratic... What happens if there's a group that has a regular meeting
that happens in that space once Backspace is up and running for awhile?
Will that group be asked to leave if Backspace decides they'd like to start
having a class or workshop on those evenings?
The only reason I'm asking these questions is because I'm in that
building almost every day and I see that "sharing space" is going to only
get more and more complicated. Last night there was something happening in
*every* room and that was a Tuesday night! I was trying to find rooms for
groups to meet in that had no idea the room they usually used was occupied
for another event. I am hoping that we can collectively work to not only
create a really great system for scheduling and sharing of space, but to
grow a really great culture of sharing! For this reason, I think being
explicit might be really helpful (please tell me if you think I'm being
unreasonable). This way, people's expectations are clearly stated and other
people know what is and is not available and when.
As far as the former TIL space is concerned, I do think that something
more specific needs to be worked out if that room is going to do double
duty as a children's space and a lockable room for body work. I have no
doubt we can come up with something!
<3
N
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Hi,
We are talking about DEN & BDRM, BDRM [2], and STORAGE [1].
To answer some of Niki's comments:
- Can Backspace give an idea as to how much time / what days or
evenings the "den" would be available for use by other groups? (One day a
week / 10% of the time / etc.)
We wont know 100% until we've been up and running for awhile. We have
someone right now who is going to use that space two nights a week and
certainly there will be more. While we are getting more members set up and
doing some renovations the space will mostly likely be open most of the
time for omni bookings, but as we grow we will be using more time in there.
- The former TIL office downstairs is actually two smaller rooms which
are currently being proposed as a children's space.
We are aware of the proposed use as a children's space, we think that
we can work out a schedule that will allow for that vision to happen as
well was giving us a much needed second dedicated space with a door for
practitioners that is (or will be) ADA accessible.
Thanks,
Andrew
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com
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> By the way, I have been urging people to refer to the names on this
> floorplan, to avoid confusion:
>
> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Floorplan#Annotated_Floorplan
>
> They're kinda clinical and not really intended for conversational use,
> but at least they're unique. When in doubt, include a link to the floorplan
> on the wiki! For example, the spaces above the corner entrance are marked
> "DEN & BDRM", "BDRM [1]" and "BDRM [2]", and the
spaces between the
> ballroom and the cafe are labeled "STORAGE [1]" (the one with the windows,
> that Backspace wants to use) and "STORAGE [2]" (no windows - possible the
> "bunker"?)
>
> A while back, there was talk about some WG coming up with better names
> for all the spaces, but I'm not sure anything materialized out of that. If
> there is a better set of names (like "bunker room" and "eyeball
room"),
> please put them up on the wiki somewhere, so we can avoid this kind of
> confusion.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Patrik
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:52 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com
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wrote:
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>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tunabananas@gmail.com');>>
wrote:
>> > Is Backspace interested in sole use of that room, or open to the
>> current
>> > proposal of it being a dedicated Kids Room as well?
>>
>> You're thinking of a different room - we've been calling the former
>> TIL office the "Kids Room." Backspace is talking about the other room
>> across from that one, under the staircase, which has BAPS books in it
>> now.
>>
>> From what I understand, they're proposing to have domain over the room
>> with the understanding that it would be unlocked and usable by other
>> groups whenever Backspace isn't using it. They want to do renovations
>> to make it clean and safe enough for bodywork sessions, and the
>> bodyworkers want to be able to have final say over the layout and
>> aesthetics of the room.
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