27 May
2014
27 May
'14
4:52 p.m.
Some of you may have noticed the blackboard message in the common room
today. For those who haven't, it says:
PLEASE MOVE. PLEASE TAKE YOUR ELITIST SELF-ABSORBED ASSES TO YOUR
DREAMSPACE UPTOWN "OMNI" SPACE AND STOP PRETENDING TO REPRESENT
"COMMUNITY"
Last night at about 11:30 pm I was sitting in the common space, hacking
away on my laptop, when Johannes (one of the tenants of the building) set
up the projector and started watching a comedy tv show in the common room.
It was just him near the projector and me and Anthony sitting in the
couches near sudo room.
Johannes went and turned off half the lights in the common room without
communicating with us. I was bothered by this and went over and turned the
lights back on. He then came over to me and angrily asked if I really
_needed_ the lights on. I calmly responded "I prefer the lights on". He
then got very upset and started ranting at nobody in particular (though of
course in response to me) as he stomped around the room. I then said "It's
polite to ask before changing the lighting in a room with other people".
This is truly the extent of our interaction, and I communicated in a calm
and neutral manner throughout. Johannes kept angrily ranting, then turned
off the projector. He came back in and out of the room carrying a
blackboard several times. It wasn't until I got up from the couch later
that I saw the message he'd left.
I realize this negative interaction could potentially have been prevented
had I talked to Johannes first instead of just turning the light back on
(though I have attempted this before when he's been disruptive in the
common space, with limited success). The reason I bring this up on the list
is that I am concerned by the disproportionate anger that this small
incident triggered. I feel like it requires a serious lack of
self-awareness / empathy to deal with the incident as Johannes did.
I am documenting this in case this becomes a pattern of behavior that needs
to be addressed in the future.
--
marc/juul
27 May
27 May
6:32 p.m.
Hey Marc,
Sorry to hear about that, and thanks for posting this.
I have been thinking about this type of behavior and entitlement a lot
lately (especially in the case of residents in the building).
Perhaps we should discuss at the meeting tomorrow that we require all
tenants of 2141 Broadway to ask permission for use of the common space
adjacent to sudo room and BAPS.
As the landlords have clarified many times, the other tenants have no right
to access our common space under the terms of their respective leases.
Their use of the space, over many months at this point, presents a unique
and problematic circumstance beyond general "prospective members" using the
sudo room and common spaces.
I'd consider phrasing like this (not final, just an idea):
'''
No other tenant of the building that holds sudo room's current space at
22nd and Broadway is allowed access to the sudo room and common space
adjacent to sudo room and the bay area public school, unless permission is
granted by consensus at two consecutive sudo room meetings, and listed
below:
* Customers and staff of Hair Candy
* William
* Sally
* Phil
* Robert (upstairs)
* Staff of the Sound Room (including Robert [downstairs])
* New tenants as of June 2014, until they are given a first notice to
request access by any sudo room member. Failure to request access within
one week of this notice revokes the tenant's permission to access and
requires access to be requested at any future sudo room meeting if desired.
'''
// Matt
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote:
Some of you may have noticed the blackboard message in
the common room
today. For those who haven't, it says:
PLEASE MOVE. PLEASE TAKE YOUR ELITIST SELF-ABSORBED ASSES TO YOUR
DREAMSPACE UPTOWN "OMNI" SPACE AND STOP PRETENDING TO REPRESENT
"COMMUNITY"
Last night at about 11:30 pm I was sitting in the common space, hacking
away on my laptop, when Johannes (one of the tenants of the building) set
up the projector and started watching a comedy tv show in the common room.
It was just him near the projector and me and Anthony sitting in the
couches near sudo room.
Johannes went and turned off half the lights in the common room without
communicating with us. I was bothered by this and went over and turned the
lights back on. He then came over to me and angrily asked if I really
_needed_ the lights on. I calmly responded "I prefer the lights on". He
then got very upset and started ranting at nobody in particular (though of
course in response to me) as he stomped around the room. I then said "It's
polite to ask before changing the lighting in a room with other people".
This is truly the extent of our interaction, and I communicated in a calm
and neutral manner throughout. Johannes kept angrily ranting, then turned
off the projector. He came back in and out of the room carrying a
blackboard several times. It wasn't until I got up from the couch later
that I saw the message he'd left.
I realize this negative interaction could potentially have been prevented
had I talked to Johannes first instead of just turning the light back on
(though I have attempted this before when he's been disruptive in the
common space, with limited success). The reason I bring this up on the list
is that I am concerned by the disproportionate anger that this small
incident triggered. I feel like it requires a serious lack of
self-awareness / empathy to deal with the incident as Johannes did.
I am documenting this in case this becomes a pattern of behavior that
needs to be addressed in the future.
--
marc/juul
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On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hey Marc,
Sorry to hear about that, and thanks for posting this.
I have been thinking about this type of behavior and entitlement a lot
lately (especially in the case of residents in the building).
Perhaps we should discuss at the meeting tomorrow that we require all
tenants of 2141 Broadway to ask permission for use of the common space
adjacent to sudo room and BAPS.
As the landlords have clarified many times, the other tenants have no
right to access our common space under the terms of their respective
leases. Their use of the space, over many months at this point, presents a
unique and problematic circumstance beyond general "prospective members"
using the sudo room and common spaces.
I'd consider phrasing like this (not final, just an idea):
'''
No other tenant of the building that holds sudo room's current space at
22nd and Broadway is allowed access to the sudo room and common space
adjacent to sudo room and the bay area public school, unless permission is
granted by consensus at two consecutive sudo room meetings, and listed
below:
* Customers and staff of Hair Candy
* William
* Sally
* Phil
* Robert (upstairs)
* Staff of the Sound Room (including Robert [downstairs])
* New tenants as of June 2014, until they are given a first notice to
request access by any sudo room member. Failure to request access within
one week of this notice revokes the tenant's permission to access and
requires access to be requested at any future sudo room meeting if desired.
'''
I like your proposal, but I'd leave out the people who are already sudo
room members. As far as I know at least William and Sally are sudo room
members.
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