23 Mar
2015
23 Mar
'15
12:49 p.m.
Posted to the Proposals <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Proposals> page for
y'alls consideration:
No Sidewalk Boozin
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin#mw-navigation>
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin#p-search>
Proposal: No Drinking of Alcohol on Sidewalks outside Omni[edit
<https://omnicommons.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=No_Sidewalk_Boozin&action=edit§ion=1>
]
- Proposal date: 2015-03-23
- Put forward by: DK
- Proposal that no alcohol is to be consumed on the sidewalks
immediately outside the Omni by Omniers.
- Rationale:
- Recent evidence that, and communication from, Omni neighbors who
like the Omni generally but at least some neighbors have shown that they
will call the cops on 'drunk people' hanging out outside Omni. So the
neighborhood is beginning to push back on this and we should respect that.
- Drinking outside has also attracted local drunks who are not
Omninoms with attendant safe space issues
- This is a clear legal and liability issue for Omni. Cameras on
buildings across the street record this activity 24x7 and this could be
used to buttress any argument against Omni as a solid, safe place for
community gatherings.
- We recognize that this practice began after a long hard day of
working on the space - laying up drywall etc - that folks wanted
to simply
sit outside, take a break and perhaps have a beer. However it
shouldn't be
the case that it is normal for having beers outside omni on a daily basis
as inevitably trouble will result.
- This is not a proposal for omni to be a 'dry' space which would be
pretty much impossible considering the need of the frequent fundraisers,
'socials', ballroom rentals, etc. It is to say though that no alcoholic
beverages are to be consumed in the immediate area outside the
premises of
Omni.
23 Mar
23 Mar
12:57 p.m.
New subject: [omni-discuss] Proposal: No Sidewalk Boozin'
Totally agree.
A bit redundant, but we may also want to add that people should not be
leaving empty beer bottles, cans or other alcohol containers behind outside
the Omni. Because that has happened several times before, and it makes the
outside drinking *so* much more visible to the entire neighborhood.
Patrik
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:49 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Posted to the Proposals
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Proposals> page for
y'alls consideration:
No Sidewalk Boozin
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin#mw-navigation>
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin#p-search>
Proposal: No Drinking of Alcohol on Sidewalks outside Omni[edit
<https://omnicommons.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=No_Sidewalk_Boozin&action=edit§ion=1>
]
- Proposal date: 2015-03-23
- Put forward by: DK
- Proposal that no alcohol is to be consumed on the sidewalks
immediately outside the Omni by Omniers.
- Rationale:
- Recent evidence that, and communication from, Omni neighbors who
like the Omni generally but at least some neighbors have shown that they
will call the cops on 'drunk people' hanging out outside Omni. So the
neighborhood is beginning to push back on this and we should respect that.
- Drinking outside has also attracted local drunks who are not
Omninoms with attendant safe space issues
- This is a clear legal and liability issue for Omni. Cameras on
buildings across the street record this activity 24x7 and this could be
used to buttress any argument against Omni as a solid, safe place for
community gatherings.
- We recognize that this practice began after a long hard day of
working on the space - laying up drywall etc - that folks wanted to simply
sit outside, take a break and perhaps have a beer. However it shouldn't be
the case that it is normal for having beers outside omni on a daily basis
as inevitably trouble will result.
- This is not a proposal for omni to be a 'dry' space which would
be pretty much impossible considering the need of the frequent fundraisers,
'socials', ballroom rentals, etc. It is to say though that no alcoholic
beverages are to be consumed in the immediate area outside the premises of
Omni.
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1:54 p.m.
At the risk of backseat hackerspacing, do people do this because there isn't a
rule against it or because the culture of the omni permits it? Last I visited
I remember a number of signs by the front door warning against this sort of
thing, but it just wasn't in everyone's mind to hold true to that.
On Monday, March 23, 2015 12:49:04 PM David Keenan wrote:
Posted to the Proposals
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Proposals> page for
y'alls consideration:
No Sidewalk Boozin
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin#mw-navigation>
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin#p-search>
Proposal: No Drinking of Alcohol on Sidewalks outside Omni[edit
<https://omnicommons.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=No_Sidewalk_Boozin&action
=edit§ion=1> ]
- Proposal date: 2015-03-23
- Put forward by: DK
- Proposal that no alcohol is to be consumed on the sidewalks
immediately outside the Omni by Omniers.
- Rationale:
- Recent evidence that, and communication from, Omni neighbors who
like the Omni generally but at least some neighbors have shown that
they will call the cops on 'drunk people' hanging out outside Omni. So the
neighborhood is beginning to push back on this and we should respect that.
- Drinking outside has also attracted local drunks who are not Omninoms
with attendant safe space issues
- This is a clear legal and liability issue for Omni. Cameras on
buildings across the street record this activity 24x7 and this could
be used to buttress any argument against Omni as a solid, safe place for
community gatherings.
- We recognize that this practice began after a long hard day of
working on the space - laying up drywall etc - that folks wanted
to simply
sit outside, take a break and perhaps have a beer. However it
shouldn't be
the case that it is normal for having beers outside omni on a daily
basis as inevitably trouble will result.
- This is not a proposal for omni to be a 'dry' space which would be
pretty much impossible considering the need of the frequent
fundraisers, 'socials', ballroom rentals, etc. It is to say though that no
alcoholic beverages are to be consumed in the immediate area outside the
premises of
Omni.
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