sudo-discuss September 2013

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by Eddan Katz

Dear Kopimists and the People who Love Them. For the featured Filo delicacy for Friday Filosophy, we will have potato burekas. I propose we talk about the difference between source code, object code, and executable code in regards to 1st Amendment protection. In other words, when is code speech and when is it a speech-act subject to less legal protection? Below is an excerpt from an essay by Lee Tien, a brilliant EFF attorney for more than a decade, on Software as Speech (2000). These two paragraphs are in the section: Viruses and other "dangerous" software. Of course, as always, we can talk about whatever else. Such as conscience and the unconscionable, perhaps. Lee Tien, Publishing Software as a Speech Act, Vol. 15 Berkeley Tech. Law Journal (2000) http://www.law.berkeley.edu/journals/btlj/articles/vol15/tien/tien.html > Let’s return to the virus hypothetical.192 The main concern lies in the fact that the software may be “diverted” toward unlawful purposes, regardless of the speaker’s intent. This concern is, however, not unique to software. It also applies to other types of information usable for mischief or harassment, whether highly technical like information about nuclear weapons, or utterly mundane like a person’s name, address or telephone number. > Even if the virus author merely posts the source code and fails to release it in active form, the issue remains whether the posting was done with an intent to communicate. If the author claims that she intended it to communicate, we would need to examine the context to decide the plausibility of that claim. There will often be a plausible claim. There is no question that people study viruses and other dangerous software in order to prevent or relieve harm.193 One way to control a virus is to publish its source code so that systems operators can disable or protect against it. Communicating a virus’ source code as part of such an effort qualifies as a speech act because the publisher intends to communicate how the virus works in a conventional way. In fact, one could imagine entire journals or Internet sites devoted to viruses and other dangerous software.194 When such publications aim to alert the world to these dangers, their intent is clearly communicative. sent from eddan.com

11 years

Membership Benefits Discussion

by Marina Kukso

hi all, we've been having discussions around membership and access. as part of that discussion, i volunteered to consolidate some of the various ideas for benefits that we can tie to membership. check out the suggestions, add your own, keep a discussion going: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Membership_Benefits_Discussion - marina

11 years, 11 months

Art Murmur discussion list sign up page

by Tracy Jacobs

To: Everyone interested in receiving Art murmur related posts please sign yourselves up to the new Art Murmur mailing list: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/artmurmur Thanks, Tracy

11 years, 12 months

MCHCK - The $5 ARM mcu board

by David Rorex

I've been following this project for a while, their goal is to produce a small ARM board with everything you need to program it built in for only $5 -- the idea being that at that price, you can stick them everywhere and not have to worry about the cost. They are now close to being finished, and are trying to raise enough money to get some prototypes out into the hands of hackers looking to play with them. You can see details on the project here: http://mchck.org/ *Features* > *open:* entirely open source hardware and software > *powerful: *ARM Cortex-M4 with DSP extensions, 50MHz, 32KB code flash, > 8KB RAM, 32KB data flash > *easy to use:* programmable via USB; USB 2.0 full speed device and host > in hardware > *massive connectivity: *10 PWM outputs, 12 analog inputs, 29 GPIOs, 6 > serial interfaces, 14 touch sense inputs > *low power:* can run directly from a coin cell battery for months > *extensible: *add LiPo battery charger, 2.4GHz radio, extra flash memory, > all without additional boards > *small:* only 50mm*19mm / 1.97in*0.75in > *cheap:* $5 to build at home They need to sell 50 in order to get bulk pricing on stuff, for $60 (which includes shipping) you get: > 5 boards + all the parts needed for them > 2 RF communications boards (NRF24L01+) > 2 LiPo battery charger ICs > 2 180mAh LiPo batteries > 2 1MB SPI flash ICs > 3 different power regulators (so you can run from a variety of power > sources) > 2 microUSB jacks (the boards themselves will plug into a USB port > directly, the optional jack allows you to instead use a USB cable) I've already ordered a kit, I'm thus spamming you all in the hopes that others will as well and I can get my boards (I have an unhealthy addiction to small inexpensive microcontroller boards) link to order here --> https://github.com/mchck/mchck/wiki/Prototypes Note that this is not a finished product yet -- you'll either need a bit of experience with ARM and microcontroller dev, or be willing to wait to use the boards until they finish all the software and iron out any issues that may arise.

12 years, 1 month

Fwd: The Omni

by Marina Kukso

hey all, max, rabbit, and i ended up being at the omni at the same time yesterday. what is the omni? read more below! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:39 PM Subject: The Omni To: "marina.kukso" <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>, Rabbit Whiskers < rabbitface(a)gmail.com> ==What is the Omni== *4799 Shattuck Avenue *Officially zoned as a house *Complex with many rooms and their loose plans for them **Ballroom hall - Yoga and other type of classes **A Bar/Restaurant Room - A "transactional cafe" **A workshop type area - artist subdivisions in half, maybe a hackerspace. **Bedroom type area - Where they will live ***A Basement - Coworking area, a film studio, and a VR Lab with omni-treadmills **A Commercial Kitchen - foodtrepreneurs-space ==Who are the Omni== *Six core people **Hippie/Burner/20-30something **Ben Olmstead (sp?) ("chief architect") we met with him *Leasing to Buy **Total price $2m ==Sudo Room at the Omni== *There is place that is good for a hackspace *[insert picture here] ====>>>>> http://oaklandwiki.org/The_Omni *They want to make 10 artist cubicles 10'x10' and charge $4/sqft. *Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's for approx $2k/month. **They want to make $8k/month from the artist spaces + workshop + coworking + movie studio + VRLAB + kitchen, so any combination works for them. We can offer creative solutions. For instance I suggested: *Pay upfront for a year could be cheaper, because they would have a larger downpayment on their loan. They accepted. *It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART **Is that too far?

12 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Let's move in together!

by ahnon

12 years, 2 months

Privacy/Fourth Amendment activists - meeting at Sudo Room on Saturday

by Alice Townes

Hello Sudo Room subscribers, I'm writing to you to make sure you know about a meeting this Saturday for privacy/Fourth Amendment activists. We're planning a lot of new things as well as recruiting for current things during the meeting, and you should come if you are interested. https://www.facebook.com/events/394998687290066/ Thanks! Alice

12 years, 2 months

Sept. 18th: Current Balance + Pay Your Dues!

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, our current balance is a measly *$1,030.38*! as a reminder, our rent + utilities is $1800 and with our minimum balance of $500, we require *$2300* in the bank on Oct 1st. please make sure that you pay your sept. dues before the end of the month! you have a number of ways to contribute: 1) online (via wepay): https://sudoroom.org/ 2) online (via gittip): https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/ 3) in person (anytime): please drop cash or checks into the clear plastic box by the door that goes to the elevator 4) in person (at meetings): bring cash or checks to wed. meetings. don't forget, we still exist in a *precarious month to month financial situation* so pay your dues. - marina

12 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: ECONOMIC CONTROVERSIES : A discussion group and concept resource

by Texas Blackwell

I'll BE THERE! Tx.Blackwell Troy Massey <ecoeconomist11(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Troy Massey ><<http://EconomicPolicyJournal.com> >ecoeconomist11(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> "ECONOMIC CONTROVERSIES" >> > > >A DISCUSSION GROUP AND CONCEPT RESOURCE > >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello Bay Area citizens, >> > > >> I am proposing to hold discussions on current economic controversies >> >> Bob Wenzel a local dedicated Austrian school economist will be in >> attendance to offer his controversial perspective on the economy, it's >> mechanisms, and will be available to answer general questions through out >> his presentation. >> >> Be prepared to learn and promote your own thoughts. We encourage people to >> bring any burning questions and perspectives which will be worked into the >> presentations so that we can study to help develop dialogue. >> >> >> EconomicPolicyJournal.com >> >> www.Sudoroom.org >> >> > >> >> We will be holding the discussions on >> >> * 7pm Tuesdays at Sudoroom * >> >> (2141 Broadway on 22nd street entrance Oakland 94612 ) >> > > >> We look forward to your attendance! >> <http://EconomicPolicyJournal.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> We will be holding the discussions on >> * >> **7pm** Tuesdays at Sudoroom* >> >> (2141 Broadway on 22nd street entrance Oakland 94612 ) >> >> ( type in your blog or webpage here Bob ) >> >> www.Sudoroom.org >> >> We look forward to your attendance! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Troy Massey >> 510.383.6117 >> >> LIBRARIAN >> www.SUDOroom.org >> 2141 Broadway >> Oakland Ca, 94612 >> >> >> COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR >> www.CommunityDemocracyProject.org >> >> >> "You are the source of freedom. The price of freedom is awareness and >> action." >>

12 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni

by Liberty Madison

I am hoping we continue to occupy the current location under more favorable terms. The access to not only BART, but city government, assemblies, events, community is appealing. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note™, an AT&T LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni From: David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> To: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> CC: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni Thanks Eddan for clarifying. Im sad i missed the joint meeting with CCL re: moving in - we definitely need more meatspace strategizing on making a 3-way move like that happen - I'm really happy that marina and y'all are checking out the Omni and other potential spaces - I'm going to start looking pretty hard and get BAPSers in on this too - sounds like a guesstimated combo sudo/baps/ccl monthly budget would be ~$4500, does that seem about right? Re: SUDO moving into the Omni, it sounds super cool and personally I have no problem with the location - but I do think if there are ppl living in the space, that might make it challenging - conversely if there are lots of loud shows there, that might make having a class tough? And more or less importantly.. are there windows in the Omni space? It's be great if whatever space SUDO moved to had more natural light.. On Monday, September 30, 2013, Eddan Katz wrote: Terminating the current lease means the latter, David. That is - at that point, a new/better lease can be negotiated. Or not, if so decided. While the details on what a co-op purchase would look like still have to be hammered out in detail, it was my understanding from George that he was interested in an arrangement that would include selling off equity in that portion. Different organizations would put up money in their collective shares and that wing would be organized as a co-op with the different organizational/individual owners taking part in the decision-making of managing the building. On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:05 PM, David Keenan wrote: Hey guys, Regarding leaving 2141 and scoping out new spaces.. I was hoping someone could fill me in on what is really meant by deciding we are officially 'terminating the lease' in Dec. ? Does it mean we are definitely out of 2141 come Jan., ie, we definitely dont want to stay at 2141? Has that been decided? Or, would we have the opportunity to negotiate a new/better lease if we did decide to keep on at 2141? Re: a co-op purchase of part of 2141, what are the brass tacks of that exactly? I..e, do we have however many tens of thousands I imagine we would need for most mortgage downpayments? Is there some angel investor here I dunno about? Along the same lines what are our real-world options with respect buying the church, or part of the Omni? Or are we just talking about renting part of the omni? Personally, I'd prefer to move, but move with BAPS, SUDO, and CCL. It kind of seems like maybe we should find a good place to move to, and understand what our combined budget is. if SUDO moves out without BAPS that would suck for BAPS and also mean that SUDO would probably get a smaller space than we would get if we combined forces, synchronized, and all moved somewhere together (or mayber stayed at 2141 together, under more amenable conditions). Staying together being the operative word to me here.. Best. David On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote: *Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's for approx $2k/month. How many square feet are we getting in exchange for that $2k? *It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART That's not too bad, obviously closer is better, and MacArthur is not a very safe area at night, but it's oakland, what are you gonna do On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical(a)comcast.net> wrote: You do realize that's very close to Ace Monster Toys? If Sudo room moves up to the Berkeley Border, it would make sense to join with Ace Monster Toys. Also, in my opinion that is way too far from Bart, and way too far from where I live, so I would probably not ever go there. Sounds like an interesting space though, and that is a better neighborhood than where AMT is now. Maybe they would be interested in this space? Tracy It's 1.4 mi away, which is relatively close, though not a super convenient walking distance. However they are looking for bigger cheaper spaces (minimum 3000 sq ft, and at most $1/sqft), so I'm not sure this would work. Also they have a requirement that anything over 2500sqft MUST have overhead sprinklers. That combined with the noise constraints might be an issue, since AMT has lots of big noisy toys (large CNC router tables, laser cutters, power saws, etc) _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org

12 years, 2 months

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