i already had plans in line for tonight when the work party was
announced this morning so won't be able to make it by - in the interest
of getting sudo's input on the proposal though, it might be best to just
send it out to the list.
On 2014-08-29 11:26, Brel Froebe wrote:
> i have a copy since she passed them out at the meeting. I will have it with me at the space today after 5pm for a work party, if you are around and want to check it out, come find me, i'll be in the ballroom mainly.
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
> it would be good to see a drawing of the area being proposed since there seems to be some confusion
> On 2014-08-29 11:12, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:01 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> What should happen is our earlier-discussed (and approved by john, if we want to do it) floorplan of putting doors into the north sides of both the storage rooms to provide further means of egress from CCL.
> If there is a floorplan already approved with John, please share it - because I have not seen anything on paper, and I don't think that what you have in mind is the same as what I've been talking about!
> With this in mind, I think the NE room would be a better room for CCL's lab, if that is an option for you guys? It is a bigger room, and putting a doorway in the storage room closer to the hallway would allow essentially a straight shot through to the double-doors on 48th - Such access could be really useful for example to bring a scissor lift into Sudo/CCL so it does not have to make turns, as well.
> What I have been suggesting is to route the exit through the small room in between the two storage rooms. That would indeed be a straight shot, and would not affect either storage room. But we would need somebody to check whether the doorway width we can achieve there would be up to code.
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss 
Yes - Gabriela's message above was forwarded to omnilogistics on 8/7. She
also spoke at that week's delegates meeting, as well as at this week's
delegate meeting. She has also come by several times and spoken with folks
in the building.
Together with her most recent email and time to talk tonight, I think
Gabriela has by this point functionally answered most of the questions in
the questionnaire, and I think certainly addressed the spirit of the
questionnaire in terms of being forthcoming about who she is and what she
brings to the omni community.
But Sudo is a larger group that does things in a more formal manner and if
Sudo needs more time to discuss Rise Above's co-subtenancy (if that is the
right word for all of us here?), then I think one more week can and should
be afforded, even if it is not ideal. It's no one's 'fault' - all of us are
volunteers and things just take longer than they should.
By the same token of accepting that situations are not ideal, in that same
spirit I hope Sudoers recognize that the actual process for adding new
co-subtenants (maybe roommate is a better word) is not exactly a well-oiled
machine at all, that all of us are operating in good faith, and that we
should all still make an effort to accommodate new tenants within the
context of this still-imperfect process - both in the general spirit of
mutual aid, and for the ongoing survival of the overall project. Other,
earlier potential new tenants, like RLL and Ian, didn't make it through our
intake process in part because our this process was less than perfect.
In addition to Gabriela's emails and presentations at delegate meetings --
some quick facts to consider:
- Willing to pay a max of $1000/mo
- Needs ~11' radius work area for her 6-screen silkscreen press; some space
for a desk; good ventilation, daylight for doing art stuff
- Would like to work in the utility room for her 6-screen silkscreen press,
which she is willing to share and train others within the Omni community to
use also, in the spirit of radical sharing (so long the space and equipment
is thoughtfully cared for, her inventory like t-shirts is potentially
- Is willing to contribute towards fixing up that room:
-- removing or moving backward into the hallway part of the pony-wall
separating the kitchen from that area so she has enough room,
-- putting in a window, etc.
Btw -- in terms of the current ground-floor kitchen in the hallway:
Health and Fire say its gotta go (not to code for commercial use, which is
what we are..). Remember guys, there is another kitchen upstairs - we just
can't access it yet, cause John and Mary are using it. But anyhow this
particular hallway has to stop being a kitchen, so - Rise Above's presence
is not a factor in that, just in case folks were worried about that.
- Rise Above would also need to occasionally use part of the area
near/adjacent to in the walk-in-freezer area for rinsing out screens - this
coincides with the need of the cafe & basement kitchen to have a mop sink /
cleaning supply area as per health code. Is willing to help invest in the
cost of upgrading this area too in order to serve this need.
In addition, although this feels like it needs to elaboration, welcoming
Gabriela fulfills the function of preserving the cultural production of
local artists which is obviously being gentrified out of existence in this
neighborhood. Providing a continued home for her work fulfils a real-time
function of social justice in terms of helping this local community we have
moved into, and that feels really important to me. (She also lives in this
neighborhood.) She is well-connected to the neighborhood and I think will
really help integrate Omni into the local social fabric.
Also, her press is a natural companion resource to TIL's community press
area in the basement in terms of the community having access to means of
production - not unlike Sudo in its computer-y way, BAPS in its radical
pedagogical way, CCL in its bio way, etc.
In addition I have helped spend a few weeks working out with Gabriela what
spaces in the building might be mutually compatible for Gabriela and OOC.
This process, with any potential tenant, takes time before a proper
application be effectively and thoughtfully made with regards space (an
aspect that is not yet reflected in the questionnaire: where and how often
space used, not just how much.) As pondering RLL and Ian taught us, it is
not the easiest thing in the world to find a new roommate - who is kind,
cool, able to contribute financially at a solid level, and above all into
the spirit of radical sharing indexical to this project and our survival.
Maybe I'm not the only one, but I've put a lot of time and care into
efforts at getting new tenants - pitched to multiple law collectives, other
free schools, and others - and I think Rise Above is a solid fit. For
sudoers' deliberation I would only ask, in terms of process -- let's not
let perfection be the enemy of the good..? Not that y'all are doing that -
I'm just saying, yes, this *process* may not yet be perfect, but in my
view, Rise Above is definitely good :)
Lotsa love -
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Rise Above Printing <
> Hi Matt and Omni Collective,
> Hopefully this is going to the whole list, if not can you please forward.
> At the beginning of August I emailed my proposal to join the Omni with my
> responses to the collective joining questionnaire. I sent this to David
> Keenan and Niki who were my contact points at that time but I'm not sure if
> it got forwarded to the group, so I'm pasting it below. Please let me know
> what the next steps might be to answer the questions of the group or
> further the discussion of my tenancy and/or membership potential.
> It was great to be able to stay for the whole meeting tonight and I can
> tell you all are going about your processes in a careful and smart way.
> While my situation is time sensitive, I think it's important to give this
> decision the time it deserves. If you could let me know what to expect as
> far as the near future that'd be great.
> Rise Above Graphics is a screen print shop run by myself and occasional
> other helpers. We specialize in printing on fabric and clothing. We print
> limited edition runs of artist designed t-shirts as well as doing custom
> printing for a wide variety of customers. We also offer design services.
> I started the print operation in 2005 after much trial and error and self
> teaching. What started out small has gained a lot of momentum and now Rise
> Above has an excellent reputation and almost more work that we can
> sometimes handle. We print for many local artists, bands, shops, schools,
> etc. and offer discounts for non-profits.
> I've had a dream of joining efforts with others for a long time. When I
> was ready to move into a public space I was fortunate enough to come across
> a wonderful corner spot on Telegraph and decided to expand into an art
> gallery as well. It was such a pleasure to spend 3 years there helping
> artists and guest curators use the space for a wide variety of creativity
> and expression. Rise Above and Smokeys Tangle developed the Temescal Art
> Hop and maintained the Temescal First Fridays and I'm hoping we can both
> find a way to resist being pushed out of the neighborhood and keep
> supporting the arts in Temescal.
> Now that I am being evicted from my spot, for condo conversion I'm looking
> to find a place where I can both focus on my print shop and also be part of
> a community with a cross pollination of ideas, efforts and energy.
> To be honest I am concerned for the future of this neighborhood, which is
> also my home. Instead of moving my shop elsewhere I'd much prefer to stay
> and join the group effort to maintain conscious growth and resist rampant
> commercialization and homogenization.
> My income comes from customers who pay for my design and print skills.
> It's not the most lucrative business but it has been maintaining itself
> (and my daughter and I) for the past several years. I can contribute to the
> Omni financially in the form of rent. I can also offer my print services to
> the community for cheap or barter. I also envison working with the other
> artists/printers/curators/teachers etc. within the collective on
> collaborations of making, learning, art events, etc. The possibilities
> actually seem kind of infinite at this point!
> Looking forward to getting to know everyone more and talking more about
> all this potential.
> Gabriela Laz
> Rise Above Print Shop + Gallery
> On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
> Hey all,
> I regret to bring this up just after what was largely a productive and
> important meeting.
> However, based on my conversations with sudo room members after the
> meeting was over, I need to require that my abstain for this vote must be
> changed to a block vote.
> Unfortunately, the sudo room has not previously consented to adding a new
> member collective. For a decision as serious as adding a new member, I hope
> the other members of The Omni Oakland Collective can respect this change of
> position, and the need to take time. I hear this strongly from our sudo
> community and I hope this resonates with you all.
> I wish I was more prepared and able to respond in a timely fashion during
> the meeting today, but regretfully, I was not and did not.
> You can see no such decision or approval to add Rise Above as a new member
> collective was made this past meeting:
> Nor on the 13th: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-08-13
> The sudo room members were waiting for a more formal proposal answering
> the questions here: http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Join
> Is someone willing to contact Rise Above directly, ASAP?
> // Matt
Lost in Omni - any sudoers know wheres?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brel Froebe <brel.alexandre(a)gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:40 AM
Subject: [omnilogistics] LOST ITEM FROM OAKLAND TOOL LIBRARY! HELP!
I borrowed 2 items from the Temescal/Oakland tool library, a
flatbar(crowbar) and a square/triangle. I put them both in the locked room
off the ballroom that is on the shattuck side that houses all the tools,
but when i went in there on thurs. i couldnt find it anywhere! does anyone
know where it is? I really don't want my borrowing privileges to get
revoked, because that was my probationary tool borrow, so i REALLY need to
find it and return it before sunday! please keep an eye out or put it back
or let someone know who can return it to me. i will be in the space
tomorrow after 5pm.
Thanks for your help!
Good folks seek referral...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Betsy Morris <Betsy(a)kali.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:10 AM
Subject: needing someone to phone line/router connection
Raines and I share meeting space as members of the Long Haul Infoshop
collective on Shattuck Ave. The collective needs someone to put in a new
phone/DSL line from the outside phone box. It's currently in a very messy
arrangement that was once a building wide multi-line system no longer in
use or needed. The result is slow and intermittent internet and wireless
There's a couple of phones, and jacks as far as I know.
Can you recommend someone with professional experience and equipment,
and/or do you know what the going rates are for this?
Planning for Sustainable Communities
Sudoroom is having its regular weekly meeting tonight, but at the same
time Omni folks will be having a work party to demolish & rebuild
parts of the large ballroom. Please come and get involved!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brel Froebe <brel.alexandre(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:51 PM
Subject: [omnilogistics] URGENT WORK PARTY TONIGHT, 6PM FOR
BALLROOM/BASEMENT OPENING TO PUBLIC!
Hello Omni Fam,
Tonight at 6PM we will be having a work party to take care of some tasks
that need to get done for the ballroom/basement to be legal/up to fire
code/ready for SEPT. 6th! It is a considerable list, but totally do-able,
especially if we have some helping hands! Below is a list of tasks to give
you a sense of things. we will be going over tasks/drywall repair as a
group to educate folks who may not know certain skills. it should be fun
(lets make it fun!)!!
If you have it, please bring crowbars/prybars/flatbars.
Thanks, and please respond if you think you can make it tonight!
briefly, here is a list of tasks that need to get done for the ballroom to
be legal/up to fire code/ready for folks on sept. 6th:
*Full breakdown of ballroom tasks*:
- Repair biggest hole in ballroom with drywall: the wall section on the
mezzanine needs to be replaced, i already virtually completed the demo, now
the drywall needs to be installed, first layer of joint compound/tape
applied, then let dry and apply 2nd layer, then 3rd layer, then primed then
painted. we need to still BUY the paint and have the color match the black
-repair/patch various drywall holes/damage in the backstage area
-someone needs to take pictures of the rest of the "fallen angels" around
the ballroom (before painting over them)
-paint adjacent walls to the wall that is being replaced (i.e. there are 4
sections that make up that mezzanine wall, 1 of them is being replaced, and
we should paint all of them, as per the proposal i sent out via
-purchase and install "EXIT" signs for 3 exits. Must tie into electrical
and I think be battery operated (Ormund, can you assist here? Are you a
licensed electrician btw - just curious?)
- Purchase and install the correct # of fire extinguishers -- every 75'
around the room
- Install panic bars on main doors from ballroom to Shattuck (both sets of
double doors); remove sliding bolts.
- Rent at least a 19' scissor lift
- once we get approval from the delegates Thursday, remove all ceiling
tiles in ballroom * (requires scissor lift)
*Not related to ballroom 'fire life & safety' codes per se, but should do*:
- Repair external siding (to ballroom, on south side) that is about to fall
off, that is visible from the mezzanine wall described above (this is most
likely the reason why that wall got damaged in the first place: water
damage/exposure to the outside)*
- Perhaps: remove odd piece of plywood board (suspended from trusses in
front of stage) with 4x4 long pieces of wood attached to it. we should
dissassemble it while we are up there. not sure what purpose it serves, but
Cep thinks we should get rid of it because it is currently stuck in a way
that we can't use it/move it to a usable place. it at one time may have
been a platform to do lighting stuff from the ceiling beams.
*In basement (also relates directly to ballroom fire life & safety, pointed
out by inspector)*:
-replace basement a few missing ceiling tiles; We can use the ballroom
ceiling panelling for this, won't look beautiful/will be black unless we
paint it, but will be functional.
- lay up drywall in large ceiling hole under bathroom, put ceiling tiles on
it: probably with double-sheets sheets of 5/8" (firewall)
* = tasks that require a SCISSOR LIFT
Submitted for review.
1. SudoMesh asked for 30A service for the servers. I opted to install 20A
rated outlets next to 15A outlets in 4plex boxes at plug locations A & B on
two 20A breakers instead because the outlets will be "conventionally"
shaped. If in fact, a 30A breaker is required then the outlets will be
rated accordingly and will look more like a plug for a dryer.
2. Overhead electrical: There is an additional cost of about $250 plus
labor to get this done in Phase two. I am personally not convinced of the
merits of having overhead power when wall outlets are in such immediate
proximity (max 15ft).
3. I would like these plans to be reviewed this week to be fully prepared
for installation early next week.
4. Last weekend, Hol and I went to Home Depot to get supplies for Phase 1.
I request reimbursement of $348.02 for materials. I have the receipt and
will present to whomever would like a copy.
That is all.