I'm going to cancel next Monday's Memorial Day meetup for women and
nonbinary folks at SudoRoom because... it's Memorial Day! Does anyone have
any objections? I'll email the two people who joined on the meetup.
https://www.meetup.com/sudoroom/events/300893905/
=============================
Romy Ilano
romy(a)snowyla.com
Hello!
Was hoping a day could get picked to do a major space clean out and Mop Removal? Would love to have the space to get the woodworking corner working and I’m sure there are valuable parts that we could set up an Ebay corner for that we just haven’t sorted through- I’d be happy to volunteer a few days for that!
-July
Hey all
As you may know I also volunteer with scraper bikes. They recently had a break in and lost all their tools. Can I come by with a box and we could put together some tools for donation?
Thank you!
-July
Sent from my iPhone
Spencer,
Sorry I missed this thread from a few weeks ago. I'm wondering if we can
take this to a wiki (I get a digest of SudoDiscuss and it's not easy to
thread these conversations!)
=============================
Romy Ilano
romy(a)snowyla.com
Awesome, I would love to hear more about your japanese notecard approach.
I'm an unabashed Obsidian + Anki user - and I think there are
tools/scripts/plugings that can resurface content "just in time" -- but
there is a danger of throwing everything in a digital file never to be seen
again.
How about a show and tell of current systems, would you be able to do a
recording at Sudoroom and I will set one up at THS? For me it will have to
be next month.
Some other questions:
- how do you begin to know what you don't know? How to create a syllabus
for a new domain of knowledge - what is too deep and what is too shallow -
mind mapping, skill trees etc
- how to organize analog notes - how to do "analog search"
- gamifying learning so that you actually want to review the things you
studied
- project based learning - how can you learn something new through a
project, but not get frustrated that you don't know the thing you are
trying to learn through the project...
- sharing list of resources, hackerspace wikis etc
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Date: Tue, 07 May 2024 09:47:08 -0700
From: Kent Leech <kent(a)kentleech.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Foreclosure
To: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org>, William Myers
<williamrmyers(a)gmail.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org
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I also prefer Option 1.
CAST-
https://cast-sf.org/
-Kent
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http://www.kentleech.com
kent(a)kentleech.com
+1 (510) 504-0634
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jake via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org>
Reply-To: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org>
Date: Thu, May 2, 2024 at 6:09 PM
To: William Myers <williamrmyers(a)gmail.com>
Cc: <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Foreclosure
>That's great that we're working with CAST!
>
>Option #1 looks great, and state law already gives us 90 days after any
>notice
>of default is filed by our lender. Even if that formally happened last
>week,
>we still have plenty of time to keep the building with CAST.
>
>Regarding the other options 2 and 3:
>Three months ago, Sudoroom discussed and formally voted not to move
>forward with people's programs and nothing has changed since then.
>If they want to try again, they'll have to propose it (along with
>explaining
>whatever has changed since last time) and then we can call a meeting to
>talk
>about it. I don't think Sudoroom will decide any differently than before.
>
>For context, the people wanting us to join with Peoples Programs have
>pushed
>really hard for that partnership but several collectives have given a
>clear No
>for an answer, and it's inappropriate that they keep trying to pressure us
>into that relationship. Unfortunately they have a pattern of trying to
>mobilize concern over timelines and the emergency of foreclosure to
>pressure
>us, along with other pressure tactics.
>
>Fortunately we should be able to easily move forward with just CAST!
>
>-jake
>
>On Thu, 2 May 2024, William Myers via sudo-discuss wrote:
>
>> Hello SUDOers,
>>
>> Tonight we are having our third meeting with CAST and we will be
>>discussing
>> moving forward on the 3 following plans.
>>
>>
>> 1. Work with CAST. They will try to get an extension for 90 days from
>> Mulberry, then CAST will use the time to fundraise to buy the building
>> outright. Afterward we would be subject to more strict rules imposed
>>by
>> CAST about Zoning laws, maintenance, firecodes etc.
>>
>>
>> 2. People program buys the building outright in the next 2 days and
>>they
>> run the ballroom, and manage the building.
>>
>>
>> 3. A combination of 1 and 2, CAST buys the building and People
>>Programs
>> supply's the funds. We would be subject to the CAST’s rules as in 1
>>but
>> would also provide people programs some ownership.
>>
>> I favor 1 as a sure thing, but will be considering all options, I would
>> like to get feedback on how SUDO would vote to support these options.
>>Feel
>> free to reply to the thread, or reply to me directly.
>>
>> Best
>> William
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 4:57 PM William Myers <williamrmyers(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello SUDO,
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to announce that the Foreclosure is moving forward and will
>>>have
>>> ~ 90 days to come up with around 1 million dollars or the building can
>>>be
>>> sold.
>>>
>>> - We will keep the ball rolling with our conversations with CAST to
>>> potentially come up with the needed funds
>>> - We will of course be looking into any other funding options, ideas
>>>are
>>> always welcome
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>> William
>>>
>>> *Below is correspondence and some notes from our Lawyer: *
>>>
>>>
>>> *Just wanted to let you know that the Mulberry Trust will be proceeding
>>> with foreclosing on the property. A new trustee will be taking over the
>>> work and proceed with the foreclosure. Mulberry Trust also wanted to
>>>let
>>> you know that they'll be adding a late fee of $283.90 to the principal
>>> since Omni didn't make a payment for April. Once the foreclosure is
>>>filed,
>>> they won't be able to accept any further payments. It's truly
>>>unfortunate
>>> that this happened but the MT did not have any other choice given the
>>> circumstances, and it does not look like there will be an assignment
>>>of the
>>> note to another individual or entity. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Below is an email I sent you previously regarding the timeline and
>>>Omni's
>>> right to pay the debt even after foreclosure begins. Note that the
>>>longer
>>> you wait, the more legal incurred by lender Omni will have to pay.
>>>Let me
>>> know if there's any way I can help.*
>>>
>>> *----*
>>>
>>> *If they proceed as quickly as possible, they can schedule a*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *foreclosure sale no sooner than 90 days after the date on which
>>> theyrecord a notice of default. Because the loan is a commercial loan,
>>> itis on a fast timeline.1. They have to give you notice of recording
>>>the
>>> notice of default.After the notice of default is recorded, the lender
>>>has
>>> to mail, post,record and publish a notice of sale.Omni has a right to
>>>pay
>>> the debt up to 5 business days before theforeclosure sale date. (See
>>>Civil
>>> Code Section 2924c(e). The dateis extended in various ways if the
>>> foreclosure sale doesn't happen.*
>>>
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Date: Tue, 07 May 2024 12:05:30 -0700
From: Kent Leech <kent(a)kentleech.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Need pictures of sudoroom in action!
To: Jake Watters <typeinthenumber(a)gmail.com>, SudoRoom
<sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org>
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Have you scraped Sudo¹s instagram feed? I¹ll see what I can dig up on my
phone and send it over. Peter Mui should have some good pics as well.
Here¹s some key things Cere and I thought of that Sudo has brought to the
community-
Fixit clinic; empowering the right to repair
Hacking synthesizers, electronic music
Bicycle lighting party
Women/Non-binary coding night
Fixing/hacking scientific equipment
Women who code
Free laptops
Solar power storage battery design
Laser cutting projects
Open lab for folks to create
Free Access to electronic materials
Incubator for a variety of art projects
Repair for sound equipment used for events
-Kent
-----
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http://www.kentleech.com
kent(a)kentleech.com
+1 (510) 504-0634
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From: Jake Watters via sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org>
Reply-To: Jake Watters <typeinthenumber(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 6, 2024 at 11:20 PM
To: SudoRoom <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Need pictures of sudoroom in action!
> We need pictures of sudoroom and the people in it doing cool stuff! We're
> making a presentation for potential lenders who need to see how awesome
> sudoroom is!
>
> Presently missing pictures of people hacking raw electronics, using the
laser
> cutter, and the wood shop and lathe!
>
> Try to upload links to pictures, rather than the pictures themselves, if
you
> have a Google photos link for example. Or if you only are able to email
the
> pictures, just email them to me not to the list!
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I want to say that I’m sorry for the inappropriate email I sent out banning
Trevor. I thoughtlessly sent out an email full of complaints from a third
party which should have been kept private. This was a violation of both
parties' privacy, and contains a lot of harmful and dehumanizing language
that no one should have to experience. And worse, the unequal treatment of
a POC constitutes a racist double standard. I want to apologize for the
harm I’ve caused, and the damage and trauma I’ve caused by making POC in
our community feel unwelcome and targeted.
I sent out the message after receiving multiple complaints on multiple
channels, giving it a sense of intensity and urgency and was concerned
there was some immediate ongoing incident which now doesn’t seem to be
true. We have caught a lot of flack for not having a way to respond to
urgent issues, but I was not in a good mental state to be responding to
incidents, and was irresponsible for me to share this information. It was
illogical for me to respond at all, Safe Space Bans are only for people in
the building who feel unsafe, and other longer term bans are handled in
committee.
Again I want to say that I’m sorry for the harm that I’ve caused and
endangering our community. I hope I can regain the trust of those affected
by my actions.
- William
I like this article. Nice points here
the term "Digital de escalation"
I am rethinking my way of learning and using technology. While I cannot
live without tablets and laptops, and my electronic pencil, reintroducing
paper notebooks, flashcards and print books has improved my productivity
greatly.
I think digital deescalation and working out ways to reduce online learning
is going to be a new future trend!
https://ethic.es/english/tech-savvy-sweden-leads-global-push-to-ban-screens…
"Dans adds that in the case of Spain, in many places «the tablet and the
pad or the traditional book already coexist. Many teachers will tell you
how drawing, touch, handwriting help development, memory and creativity.
Digital tools are useful, but we must combine them with handwriting and
traditional reading. Learning to ride an electric scooter is fine, but you
have to know how to walk first»."
=============================
Romy Ilano
romy(a)snowyla.com
Spencer this is awesome!
Let's connect SudoRoom with Tokyo Hackerspace and beyond!
On a side note I found that my study has become much more effective after
picking up some paper flashcards and Japanese style study notes in analog.
>>> Hi, chiming in from Tokyo here https://www.tokyohackerspace.jp/ , I'm
very
interested in this topic and have been thinking about it a lot recently
with the new copilot tools.
>>> re: what do you do with analog notes
Yes I'm fascinated by this too. I find electronic notetaking much too
ephemeral for true learning, it's also dangerous to pack all your knowledge
in the same device that has your social media, LinkedIn, etc.
I am experimenting with locking my iPad, having two tablets. There are
settings where you can remove social media etc. as well.
I use Goodnotes and Notion heavily, I know people use Obsidian. How do we
use these systems effectively? I'm starting to believe that it's harmful to
rely entirely on ebooks and electronics though.
=============================
Romy Ilano
romy(a)snowyla.com
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 19:42:23 +0000
> From: Charley Sheets <sudo(a)rcsheets.com>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: test of sending
> To: Ira Brightman <ira997(a)gmail.com>
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> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:39 PM, Ira Brightman via sudo-discuss <[
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> From: s maroukis <smaroukis(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Learning how to learn / hacking learning
> and note taking subgroup at SudoRoom
> To: Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org>
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> Hi, chiming in from Tokyo here https://www.tokyohackerspace.jp/ , I'm very
> interested in this topic and have been thinking about it a lot recently
> with the new copilot tools.
>
> I was looking to set up a similar meeting at Tokyo Hackerspace, although I
> think I'm more interested in using digital tools to point to gaps in
> knowledge (which would require a digital knowledgebase / PKM to scan) than
> a focus on why analog tools are useful. I definitely agree with the
> benefits of handwriting notes especially for drawing diagrams/etc while
> learning, but what do you do once you've taken all the handwritten notes?
> You need to process them still - I think digital tools are great for that.
> Would love to talk more and see what topics come up at sudo.
>
> If people show interest I'd love to join a group chat/ discussion thread on
> it and maybe I can host one in Tokyo with sudo's discussions as fodder.
>
> Spencer
> https://maroukis.net
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 1:46 PM Romy Ilano via sudo-discuss <
> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>
> > Speaking to folks at Noisebridge, but I'm thinking of starting a learning
> > how to learn subgroup at SudoRoom.
> >
> > This would include topics such as:
> > - Switching back to analog for notetaking and learning
> > - Mixing analog notes and ebooks
> > - doing digital detox on your laptops and phones and tablets so that they
> > become learning devices instead of consumption devices
> > - Creating a picture of new technologies like AI which seem to be
> > constantly changing
> >
> > I'm not sure what a good time to meet for this would be... I'm guessing
> > Tuesday? I am not sure I can come in this week though! I have job
> > interviews. But I think cross meeting between SudoRoom, Noisebridge and
> > other spaces is ideal!
> >
> >
> > =============================
> >
> > Romy Ilano
> > romy(a)snowyla.com
> >
> >
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We need pictures of sudoroom and the people in it doing cool stuff! We're
making a presentation for potential lenders who need to see how awesome
sudoroom is!
Presently missing pictures of people hacking raw electronics, using the
laser cutter, and the wood shop and lathe!
Try to upload links to pictures, rather than the pictures themselves, if
you have a Google photos link for example. Or if you only are able to email
the pictures, just email them to me not to the list!
Hello SUDO,
I'm sorry to announce that the Foreclosure is moving forward and will have
~ 90 days to come up with around 1 million dollars or the building can be
sold.
- We will keep the ball rolling with our conversations with CAST to
potentially come up with the needed funds
- We will of course be looking into any other funding options, ideas are
always welcome
Best
William
*Below is correspondence and some notes from our Lawyer: *
*Just wanted to let you know that the Mulberry Trust will be proceeding
with foreclosing on the property. A new trustee will be taking over the
work and proceed with the foreclosure. Mulberry Trust also wanted to let
you know that they'll be adding a late fee of $283.90 to the principal
since Omni didn't make a payment for April. Once the foreclosure is filed,
they won't be able to accept any further payments. It's truly unfortunate
that this happened but the MT did not have any other choice given the
circumstances, and it does not look like there will be an assignment of the
note to another individual or entity. *
*Below is an email I sent you previously regarding the timeline and Omni's
right to pay the debt even after foreclosure begins. Note that the longer
you wait, the more legal incurred by lender Omni will have to pay. Let me
know if there's any way I can help.*
*----*
*If they proceed as quickly as possible, they can schedule a*
*foreclosure sale no sooner than 90 days after the date on which theyrecord
a notice of default. Because the loan is a commercial loan, itis on a fast
timeline.1. They have to give you notice of recording the notice of
default.After the notice of default is recorded, the lender has to mail,
post,record and publish a notice of sale.Omni has a right to pay the debt
up to 5 business days before theforeclosure sale date. (See Civil Code
Section 2924c(e). The dateis extended in various ways if the foreclosure
sale doesn't happen.*
