- sudo-discuss - sudoroom.org

by Garrett Robinson

Hey Sudo! Yet another session of the excellent Coursera Crypto course has started as of today! [0] If you are interested in learning more about cryptography, this is a great place to start. Additionally, I and some others are interested in starting a weekly study group to discuss the course material and help each other with the assignments. We were thinking Sudo Room would be a good place to host it! So this email is meant to: 1. Gauge interest in such a study group from the sudo community 2. Make sure it's ok to host something like this at Sudo Is there anything we should do to host this at sudo in the most positive way possible for the space and community? Cheers, Garrett [0] https://www.coursera.org/course/crypto

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to be a nuematically controlled player piano)

by yar

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Art lives in N. Berkeley closeish to the N. Berkeley Bart so some of us to > help to move this piano by barting then walking to his house. > > He would like to try and move this tomorrow or saturday. Yes please! I would love to help with this. I could drive some muscle over there in my car as well. Would we put this in the ballroom? The existing ballroom piano is getting really sad and out of tune, I think because it keeps being moved around. I would love to know any ideas people have for keeping the pianos open-access and reconfigurable, but also not a total maintenance nightmare. Also, I would really like to fix the existing one but don't know where to start. If anybody out there knows how to fix and tune pianos, and would like to exchange knowledge or learn alongside me, please let me know! :D

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Donation box at CCL raided

by yar

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Eske <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was thinking the keypad system would only be used during > member/memberguests only hours (I.e. 10pm to 10am). Sorry, I've missed a bunch of meetings. Is "member/memberguests only hours" an official thing we do now?

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Change of Email

by yar

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Amgo Go <littlebitagive(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Apparently we can acquire the email address (by talking to yar?) so people > can send us stuff and it forwards to our other email account, but getting > one to send FROM is trickier...any more input on this, > computo-smartypantses? We can set up a sasl/pop/imap if you're ok connecting from a local email client instead of just having things forwarded to gmail. Just nobody's made it a priority yet.

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Change of Email

by yar

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Eske <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote: > P.s. > Is it possible to get omnicommons.org email accounts through our hosting > service? > That would be amazing. Sure, just let us know: 1) whataddress(a)omnicommons.org you want 2) the email address you'd like it to forward to You can send those requests to me or another sysadmin individually, or to sysadmins(a)omnicommons.org

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THIS SAT: 2nd Women's Variety Show at 7PM!

by Marina Kukso

Hi Folks, This Saturday in the Omni Ballroom come see women-identified folks from across our community performing a wide range of performances in the 2nd Women's Variety Show! Performances include: rock and roll, comedy, percussion ensemble, a discussion about sexism, and lots more! The event is Sat. 1/24 at 7PM. Free and open to anyone to attend. Event details: https://www.facebook.com/events/1405345946429324/?context=create&previousac… People who came to the last one were really happy. Come hear what women in our community have to say. Best, Marina

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Donation box at CCL raided

by yar

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Eske <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Until we iron out some of the safety/accountability kinks, maybe a temporary > keypad on the Sudo/CCL room entrances *should* be implimented... I'd be comfortable with this as long as we can still have the doors propped open most of the day, or whenever members feel comfortable doing so.

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Change of Email

by Eske

Hi all, I was wondering if there's an easier way to change my commons/lists accounts than just unsubscribing, and re-subscribing from the lists? ~ Korl 510.671.0824 500px.com/soenke-v soundcloud.com/twentywings

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Donation box at CCL raided

by Ryan

Coming to the conclusion that sudoers should actively try and keep a better awareness of their surroundings, including CCL. I know I often let CCL just be at the boundary of my awareness and have no idea who's in the space, although it would be easy for me to know. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just noticed that some thief emptied the donation box at CCL. I'm guessing > they got away with around $50 or more. I hadn't noticed it was missing > because they stuffed the box under a table somewhere. The little door with > the lock for the donation box is missing as well, so the box is useless > right now - that's another $30. Right now we're actively losing money on > our donation box... > > Perhaps not surprising with all the random drunk people roaming around. > And yeah, guess we shouldn't have left it sitting around unattended. But > I'd rather live in an environment where I do not have to worry about > vandalism and theft for everything we leave out. > > Grumpily yours, > > Patrik > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > >

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All Fingers ON KEYBOARDS!! Last Week of Omni Commons Campaign

by Matthew Senate

Hey Omni Commoners, We have one week left in the campaign and only need another $12,855! Thanks to the generosity of our community, we’ve received $40,000 in major donations plus $27,145 in grassroots funding through our crowdfunding campaign page. That means, together, we’ve raised $67,145--approaching our overall goal of $80,000. We depend on you to make this happen: - Donate, even a small amount! Every dollar counts: https://omnicommons.org/donate - If you want to canvas in-person this week, contact Chris at 510-692-1349 to coordinate (3:30pm-7:30pm Thu-Fri, and all day Sat-Sun). - Reach out to any bloggers, journalists, media outlets of any sort that you know and see if they’d be interested in covering the close of our campaign or if they’d be willing to share our donation link omnicommons.org/donate on social media, we’re: - https://twitter.com/omnicommons - https://www.facebook.com/omnicommons - Make personal phone calls, or write personal notes to people close to you who would be willing to contribute! - Copy and paste the following email message and send to others (you should find a forwardable copy in your inbox after this email ;) Forwardable Email Message Subject: Only One Week Left to Contribute--Open the Omni Commons! Howdy, There’s only one week left to contribute to our crowdfunding campaign, and we’re really close to reaching our goal. Please donate now, and share this message as far as you possibly can! https://omnicommons.org/donate <http://omnicommons.org/donate> We only need another $12,855! Thanks to the generosity of our community, we’ve received $40,000 in major donations plus $27,145 in grassroots funding through our crowdfunding campaign page. That means, together, we’ve raised $67,145--approaching our overall goal of $80,000. What does it mean to forge a commons? Everywhere on the planet, those spaces, places, and resources that we share and hold in common are being targeted and exploited for personal gain and corporate profit. It is up to all of us to preserve whatever commons we still have, and to forge new ones whenever possible. The Omni Commons has tremendous potential to become a critical community space. In order to ensure our doors can open, and remain open, we need your help today. https://omnicommons.org/donate <http://omnicommons.org/donate> Love and Solidarity, The Omni Commons Fundraising Working Group

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Elliot Hughes

by yar

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Eske Silver <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We do already (or damn oughta) have precident for these interactions... Sudoroom has many long-standing policies for this. First, any Sudoroom member is empowered to ask a non-member to leave at any time. Second, when a person's presence makes someone else feel unsafe, we ask them to leave and not return until the end of a conflict resolution process (if they want one). The process involves a mediator and steward having private meetings and then reporting back afterwards. Facts and arguments are not hashed out at a public meeting unless the process has failed spectacularly. We've never had to do that. Sudoroom values fairness, but we have always prioritized safety over fairness. WRT Elliot, I haven't been around enough lately to know, but it sounds like we've kicked out many strangers for less and never thought twice. It's so much easier to be lenient with a familiar face, but that's not "fair"...

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Last Week of Omni Commons Crowdsourcing Campaign!

by Marina Kukso

Hey Sudoers, We have one week left in the campaign and only need another $12,855! Thanks to the generosity of our community, we’ve received $40,000 in major donations plus $27,145 in grassroots funding through our crowdfunding campaign page. That means, together, we’ve raised $67,145--approaching our overall goal of $80,000. We depend on you to make this happen: - Donate, even a small amount! Every dollar counts: https://omnicommons.org/donate - Social Media! Get on Facebook, twitter, etc. and let people know that it's the last week and that they should contribute. Tagging specific people is a really good way to get people's attention. - If you want to canvas in-person this week, contact Chris at 510-692-1349 to coordinate (3:30pm-7:30pm Thu-Fri, and all day Sat-Sun). - Reach out to any bloggers, journalists, media outlets of any sort that you know and see if they’d be interested in covering the close of our campaign or if they’d be willing to share our donation link omnicommons.org/donate on social media, we’re: - https://twitter.com/omnicommons - https://www.facebook.com/omnicommons - Make personal phone calls, or write personal notes to people close to you who would be willing to contribute! - Copy and paste the following email message and send to others: Subject: Only One Week Left to Contribute--Open the Omni Commons! Howdy, There’s only one week left to contribute to our crowdfunding campaign, and we’re really close to reaching our goal. Please donate now, and share this message as far as you possibly can! https://omnicommons.org/donate <http://omnicommons.org/donate> We only need another $12,855! Thanks to the generosity of our community, we’ve received $40,000 in major donations plus $27,145 in grassroots funding through our crowdfunding campaign page. That means, together, we’ve raised $67,145--approaching our overall goal of $80,000. What does it mean to forge a commons? Everywhere on the planet, those spaces, places, and resources that we share and hold in common are being targeted and exploited for personal gain and corporate profit. It is up to all of us to preserve whatever commons we still have, and to forge new ones whenever possible. The Omni Commons has tremendous potential to become a critical community space. In order to ensure our doors can open, and remain open, we need your help today. https://omnicommons.org/donate <http://omnicommons.org/donate> Love and Solidarity, The Omni Commons Fundraising Working Group

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omni prop/costume room?

by Marina Kukso

are there any areas in the omni that have props/costumes/scraps for performances?

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help sudoroom have a CNC machine!

by Jake

sudoroom needs a CNC milling machine! well guess what, we already have one (no i don't mean the robot) i'm talking about the big heavy CSAM thing that is sitting on the border between sudoroom and CCL. It was made to image ICs in their package with ultrasonic probing, but nobody cares about that and it's a really nice big 3-axis platform anyway, so we might as well throw a rotary cutter on there and have a nice CNC mill/router. what's missing? Turns out it's just software. The software that came with the ancient computer is very specifically written for raster-scanning integrated circuits with the ultrasonic probe (which works). but we need software to take G-code and drive a cutting tool around on pieces of wood, so we can carve words into wood planks or whatever. the motor controller for this machine is controlled by an ISA card inside the computer. It is controlled through "ports" accessed by the CPU. If we are unable to find software to take G-code and drive this ISA card (and i'm sure it's possible to find such software) we could just write our own software, to run in linux or DOS or whatever. The computer is a 386. Please try to find software for operating a CNC machine with this setup: Parker Compumotor PC-23 here is the manual for the hardware we have, which lists lots of software stuff: http://spaz.org/~jake/bxi/pc23_ug-servodriver.pdf I haven't imaged the hard drive on the computer there, so i don't have everything backed up, and i haven't looked to see if there is handy software for driving the machine from G-code, but i doubt it's there. The software that's there can move the machine around, but only for scanning CSAM. If you want to play with it, let me know. We can meet up at sudo. -jake someone has been here before: http://www.programd.com/62_0e8487061f6729ba_1.htm

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Replacing the term "bottom-liner" with..?

by niki

Hey all, I want to honor the request from some Omni community members that we replace the word bottom-liner. Can we collect a list of alternatives and mutually agree to attempt to replace this phrase / to lovingly and compassionately correct one another if and when we slip up? As little as it may seem, this will require a cultural shift for a lot of us that I'm sure we're all willing to make, but it'll likely take a bit of time before it collectively takes root. It would be great if those who take particular issue with this phrase could put forth their suggestions. I will collect suggestions and make a poll both online and in the real world. Here are some suggestions of mine: * steward * curator * representative Love, N

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Reminder - no loud music or drumming in disco room plz :)

by David Keenan

That room shares a paper-thin wall with our neighbor (the walls of our buildings touch) so until it is better soundproofed there can be no drumming and no loud music - at least, for sustained periods - in that room.. I hope everyone understands this, and please contact Commons group if you have any questions. David

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Free Online Class Crypto II from Stanford coming up

by Ed Rippy

<http://online.stanford.edu/course/cryptography-2-2014> -- I took Crypto I, pretty theoretical, lotsa proofs, mind-numbing detail on block ciphers, making streams out of block ciphers, hashes, RSA -- this class will cover higher-level 'packages' that include key exchange/authent/session stuff.

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BAPS-instantiated provisional ban: Kevin Troffer.

by David Keenan

Hey guys, A guy named Kevin Troffer was seen rolling through Omni the other day. I am calling for him to be provisionally banned from BAPS and therefore from Omni. Kevin is not a member of the Bay Area Public School, but he did attend classes at the (short-lived?) offshoot, the San Francisco Public School. For those that don't recall, Kevin is a guy who smashed a bottle across a comrade's face during a SFPS class. The comrade in question who suffered the blow was a manager of an SF bookshop with a back room in which BAPS classes also took place. (This site for classes was originally arranged by BAPS, and extended to SFPS in the spirit of solidarity.) The class Kevin was in, showed up on the wrong day, during another event but was still allowed to use the space. Then, the shop was closing down and Kevin was unhappy about having to leave - he argued with the manager then struck him in front of ~40 people and fled. Subsequent to this, an attempt to ban him at a BAPS meeting was called for and failed, not because any information was provided to contradict this account, but because two BAPS members felt because they were not personally there, they were not in a position to judge. This failure was before Omni and its safe space policy, and before BAPS adopted Sudo's conflict resolution policy as well. Because of this, I am calling for a provisional ban of this individual pending discussion at the next BAPS and Omni delegates meeting. Unfortunately I do not have his photo, but if anyone has one please pass it along, and also please pass along his email address and/or this message to him. Best, David

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scale

by refugia

Is anyone going to this conference? I'm thinking about it. http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/speakers/index.html Patrick

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DZB's proposal 'Opening Omni' - please read

by David Keenan

Hi all, Please go to: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Proposals ...and click on DZB's proposal 'Opening Omni' which i formatted for the wiki. Add your amendments and reflections into each subsection discussion / comment area (for areas 1-7 of the proposal) and begin dialogue within your collectives if that's OK? Thanks! David

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Left my USB hub

by Ryan

Left my USB hub at the space last night... it's an Amazon 4 way powered hub, iirc. If someone sees it, please put it aside. I'll be there in a bit.

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Looking for speakers... not human speakers; electronic ones.

by danarauz＠gmail.com

Hellos, Where I work we would like to buy a set of computer speakers that would be clear sound to cover a classroom. Anyone with a suggestion under 100 bucks? Many thanks in advance, Daniel

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trying to log into a meraki sparky

by Jake

i flashed a meraki sparky with the script from github, and it said it worked.. but when i try to log into the device either through serial or telnet over ethernet, it doesn't work. Maybe i have the IP address wrong, but for the serial port, i am not getting a full bootup... any ideas? +Ethernet eth0: MAC address 00:18:0a:50:65:3e IP: 192.168.84.1/255.255.255.0, Gateway: 0.0.0.0 Default server: 192.168.84.9 RedBoot(tm) bootstrap and debug environment [ROMRAM] Non-certified release, version v1.3.0 - built 10:45:15, Aug 27 2007 Copyright (C) 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 Red Hat, Inc. Board: ap61 RAM: 0x80000000-0x82000000, [0x8003ddd0-0x80fe1000] available FLASH: 0xa8000000 - 0xa87e0000, 128 blocks of 0x00010000 bytes each. == Executing boot script in 2.000 seconds - enter ^C to abort RedBoot> fis load -d linux Image loaded from 0x80041000-0x802fe65c RedBoot> exec Now booting linux kernel: Base address 0x80030000 Entry 0x80041000 Cmdline : [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.3.8 (blogic@Debian-60-squeeze-64-minimal) (gcc version 4.6.3 20120201 (prerelease) (Linaro GCC 4.6-2012.02) ) #1 Sat Mar 23 17:43:48 UTC 2013 [ 0.000000] gpiochip_add: registered GPIOs 0 to 21 on device: ar2315-gpio [ 0.000000] ar2315-gpio: registered 22 GPIOs [ 0.000000] bootconsole [early0] enabled [ 0.000000] CPU revision is: 00019064 (MIPS 4KEc) [ 0.000000] Determined physical RAM map: [ 0.000000] memory: 02000000 @ 00000000 (usable) [ 0.000000] Initrd not found or empty - disabling initrd [ 0.000000] Zone PFN ranges: [ 0.000000] Normal 0x00000000 -> 0x00002000 [ 0.000000] Movable zone start PFN for each node [ 0.000000] Early memory PFN ranges [ 0.000000] 0: 0x00000000 -> 0x00002000 [ 0.000000] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 8128 [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,9600 rootfstype=squashfs,jffs2 [ 0.000000] PID hash table entries: 128 (order: -3, 512 bytes) [ 0.000000] Dentry cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) [ 0.000000] Inode-cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes) [ 0.000000] Primary instruction cache 16kB, VIPT, 4-way, linesize 16 bytes. [ 0.0085k kernel code, 3604k reserved, 353k data, 168k init, 0k highmem) [ 0.000000] NR_IRQS:128

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Removing cruft and large donations

by Ryan

A reminder was also brought up at the sudo meeting: if you see people who look like they're just about to leave a whole bunch of stuff here ("donation") you can (and please do!) let them know that donations should go through donations(a)omnicommons.org (or a collective?) to make sure that they're not costing us money and time and love and oil and tears. Only you can prevent Omni kruft. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey all, > > I brought the clothes that had been stashed in the bunker room to Out of > the Closet yesterday, and they were great, took it all. > > I'd like to make my hands and vehicle available for future > kruft/donation removals, dump runs etc. Ping me as necessary. > > Also, join this list to be on the donations vetting team: > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/donations > > There are only 4 people on there right now, people who already do a ton > of work for the omni. > > <3 > Jenny > http://jennyryan.net > http://sudomesh.org > http://thevirtualcampfire.org > http://technomadic.tumblr.com > > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." > -Laurie Anderson > > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." > -Hannah Arendt > > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." > -Stéphane Mallarmé > ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > >

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] A Central Location for Omni Docs

by Eske Silver

Yea, that's one reason why owncloud would be good. Or simply a docs partition on the digital media library. Marc and I have recently discussed setting one up (ebooks, video, software, etc) - it seems logical to have *all* of Omni's digital files in one place. ~ Korl 500px.com/eske 510.689.4484 On Jan 15, 2015 12:42 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: > would be good to have a directory on a server in the building that we > can just upload docs to and browse via ftp - should be easy to set up but > wouldn't have that many features. the only real feature i think would be > important is really a non-feature - not being able to modify docs that are > uploaded already, without some sort of admin login. > > marc and other meshninoms - is there a server running that has extra space > for this? > > On 2015-01-15 12:25, Eske Silver wrote: > > I'm the best temp in Chiswick ;) > > ~ Korl > > 500px.com/eske > 510.689.4484 > On Jan 15, 2015 12:24 PM, "Amgo Go" <littlebitagive(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > hallelujah thank you korl! > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Eske Silver <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Ahah! That must be incredibly frustrating, with all the info everyones >> brain rams through each week. >> >> I'll get on this today, if no one else has time ;) >> Do you want to pm me with links to all the clouds, and info on >> permissioning, so I know what I'm looking for? (I.e. size, file types, >> security options, sharing, etc). >> >> File organizing is my jam! >> >> ~ Korl >> >> 500px.com/eske >> 510.689.4484 >> On Jan 15, 2015 11:30 AM, "niki" <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> We have not! :) >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Eske Silver <eske.silver(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dunno if you guys are still working on this, but I just found it >>>> burried in my inbox, and have been researching clouds all week. There a >>>> number of cloud services specifically for docs, which also have security >>>> and ease-of-use in mind. >>>> Let me know if you found a solution to this already, or not! >>>> >>>> ~ Korl >>>> >>>> 500px.com/eske >>>> 510.689.4484 >>>> On Dec 26, 2014 2:09 PM, "Amgo Go" <littlebitagive(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hallelujah thanks niki for starting this! >>>>> Yep let's sit down in Jan and get organzized! >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was just looking into setting up OwnCloud for this very purpose! >>>>>> I'm off to mushroom - hunt in the forest today but I'd like to follow up on >>>>>> this thread tomorrow <3 >>>>>> On Dec 26, 2014 1:06 AM, "niki" <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I started going through the myriad drive folders that various >>>>>>> documents are stored in to see if I could do some organizing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am wondering if we can designate a central location for everything >>>>>>> that is shareable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Certainly, there are some things that are more sensitive than others >>>>>>> but it would be helpful to be able to point people to one place rather than >>>>>>> to search through emails to find stuff. Perhaps we can designate different >>>>>>> permissions for certain info (ie: financial stuffs) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's starting to get difficult for me to find the most recent >>>>>>> versions of things and I am sometimes not sure if I'm using the same docs >>>>>>> as everyone else (For instance, is everyone using the same sheet when >>>>>>> recording / tracking rentals? I have several versions!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't care who the owner of this folder is or where it lives, >>>>>>> personally. I just think that having everyone create and store shared docs >>>>>>> on their own personal drives rather than in some central location creates >>>>>>> serious confusion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (I know that we used to have a central drive folder back in the day >>>>>>> and at some point, a bunch of folders were moved / deleted and this caused >>>>>>> some concern - maybe we keep an alias somewhere that gets backed up semi >>>>>>> regularly?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do people have thoughts on this? Preferences for how / where things >>>>>>> should be stored? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am more than willing to take on the task of organizing everything, >>>>>>> I just want us all to be on the same page re: where that should be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> xo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> N >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> •amgo• >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> discuss mailing list >>>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> discuss mailing list >>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>>> > > > -- > •amgo• > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing listdiscuss@lists.omnicommons.orghttps://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > >

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