On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Whitney Lawrence <whitneyel3(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Lets shoot for this Tuesday afternoon. Otherwise next week sometime (nxt wk
> my schedule is fairly open for now).
Hey Whitney, I just noticed that some folks replied to this thread
without emailing you directly. Folks, Whitney is not subscribed to the
mailing list anymore!
April posted this scheduling poll to pick the best day of the week:
https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/sudofivezero1c3/
Matt forwarded a note from the state that we need to fill out Form
3500 to avoid paying 2013 taxes.
Yar,
I am still willing to bottom line the 501c application. I have not made any
progress since my august communication requesting information. My goal to
have the package finalized by the end of this month is no longer reasonable
because I have not made any progress since august. Without the required
information I can not help. I suggest we form a small group of people that
have historical working knowledge of Sudo as well as access to financial
and tax documentation. After the delegates are identified we should meet to
address scope and define roles.
Regrettably, I don't have the time to join in the weekly meetings. I can
however, make time for a twice a month focus meeting to address 501c
documentation and progress.
Finally, please include me in future communications on *this *subject by
attaching me directly to the email. I will be unsubscribing from the
"discuss" & "omni building" email lists because it is taking too much of my
time to review.
Thank you,
Whitney E. Lawrence III, P.E.
510 396 5510
I'm going to see the new Snowden documentary in the city on Thursday. If
anyone want's to join me for a BART field trip and a movie, ping me.
Opens in SF on Thursday:
http://www.movietickets.com/movie/mid/195142/SearchZip/94609/ShowDate/4/Sea…
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> 1. Re: [omni-booking] Beehive Design Collective ? event at Omni,
> Oct 21 (yar)
> 2. Re: [BAPS-Organizing] Re: Naomi Klein Event 10/19
> (Kathleen Frumkin)
> 3. Re: [BAPS-Organizing] Re: Naomi Klein Event 10/19 (Amgo Go)
> 4. Re: [omni-booking] Beehive Design Collective ? event at Omni,
> Oct 21 (yar)
> 5. Re: [BAPS-Organizing] Re: Naomi Klein Event 10/19
> (Kathleen Frumkin)
> 6. OtherMill! (Eske Silver)
> 7. pair programming station has KiCAD now (Jake)
> 8. Submitting Tax Information to State of California by Nov 7
> (Matthew Senate)
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> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:05:33 -0700
> From: yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com>
> To: april glaser <april.glaser(a)riseup.net>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-booking] Beehive Design Collective ?
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> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:03 PM, april glaser <april.glaser(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>> I improved the event in the calendar but had a snafu that kept reoccurring
>> when trying to insert a photo. Can someone help me get the photo in the
>> event page so that I can promote the event with this page? Also embed the
>> video, if possible?
> I'm working on it, thanks
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:39:10 -0700
> From: Kathleen Frumkin <kathleenfrumkin(a)gmail.com>
> To: niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: Bay Area Public School Organizing
> <bayareapublicschool-organizing(a)googlegroups.com>, Sudo room
> <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org"
> <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, Joseph Liesner <blue393(a)lmi.net>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [BAPS-Organizing] Re: Naomi Klein Event
> 10/19
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> so who three Omni reps are going to the Klein event?
>
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:01 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Amgo,
>>
>> Don't feel badly at all! Everyone else graciously stepped down leaving
>> three, wonderful Omni representatives.
>>
>> There are no hard feelings!
>>
>> <3
>>
>> N
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Amgo Go <littlebitagive(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> i just tracked this thread down. i feel uncomfortable taking a spot
>>> without a straw-drawing or something. i know i'm late to the game but where
>>> did all the interested parties go?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:35 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just want to remind everyone that originally, no one from the Omni was
>>>> invited to this *private* event.
>>>>
>>>> We requested that we be allowed to send Omni members and the organizers
>>>> agreed - there was disagreement amongst them as to how many people we could
>>>> send.
>>>>
>>>> N
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Kathleen Frumkin <
>>>> kathleenfrumkin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes I agree with Sara. It is a dilemma that will take some thinking
>>>>> through. I'll just read her book?too.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Sara Larsen <saralarsenyoga(a)gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I will recind my spot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a shame that most Omni members cannot attend, as we are both
>>>>>> hosts and some of the people who I think really need to hear what she has
>>>>>> to say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll just read her book! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Kathleen Frumkin <
>>>>>> kathleenfrumkin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to Niki for letting us know what's happening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand a limit has been set by the outside organizer as to full
>>>>>>> representation of OMNI delegates to this event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I rescind my spot and leave to those remaining in the pool to make
>>>>>>> the decision as to how best to share this event with one another.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also ask the same question that Marc Juul has asked. Wonder too if
>>>>>>> there is a difference between organizing and sponsoring events within the
>>>>>>> OMNI collectives/community? Either way it takes a certain amount of energy
>>>>>>> given by volunteers which is often in short supply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Love to all!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kathleen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:53 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I walked one of the organizers for the Naomi Klein event through the
>>>>>>>> space on Monday and she told me that they were trying to cap the number of
>>>>>>>> attendees and ensure that the group represented a diverse range of voices
>>>>>>>> from different communities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As such, despite the information I was previously given by another
>>>>>>>> organizer, she said that only 3 people max from the Omni can attend.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm very sorry - this was a miscommunication between parties on
>>>>>>>> their end, not ours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right now, 10 Omni members have asked to attend. Are there people
>>>>>>>> who are rescind their request for a spot? I think the only fair way to
>>>>>>>> decide who can go may be to draw names.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Niki
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let us be together,
>>>>>> Let us eat together,
>>>>>> Let us be vital together,
>>>>>> Let us be radiating truth,
>>>>>> radiating the light of life,
>>>>>> Never shall we denounce anyone,
>>>>>> never entertain negativity.
>>>>>> -- The Upanishads
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ?amgo?
>>>
>>
>
the pair programming station now has KiCAD, the free and open-source
software circuitboard CAD progam, installed on it.
juul and I will be designing the circuitboard for the vending machines
(hack-o-mat on the wiki) soon, and if you're interested in this we can
make it a date so more people can see how it's done.
since it's a pair programming station with two monitors, at least twice as
many people can watch, and at least two people can take turns making the
board.
-jake
Hello friends,
I walked one of the organizers for the Naomi Klein event through the space
on Monday and she told me that they were trying to cap the number of
attendees and ensure that the group represented a diverse range of voices
from different communities.
As such, despite the information I was previously given by another
organizer, she said that only 3 people max from the Omni can attend.
I'm very sorry - this was a miscommunication between parties on their end,
not ours.
Right now, 10 Omni members have asked to attend. Are there people who are
rescind their request for a spot? I think the only fair way to decide who
can go may be to draw names.
Any thoughts?
Niki
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:03 PM, april glaser <april.glaser(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> I improved the event in the calendar but had a snafu that kept reoccurring
> when trying to insert a photo. Can someone help me get the photo in the
> event page so that I can promote the event with this page? Also embed the
> video, if possible?
I'm working on it, thanks
Yay! Let's learn a whole lot. Please share a link when it's confirmed so I can promote wildly.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> </div><div>Date:10/17/2014 4:13 PM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> </div><div>Cc: booking(a)lists.omnicommons.org, sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Beehive Design Collective – event at Omni, Oct 21 </div><div>
</div>Yay, I agree!!
<3
N
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:53 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Danny Spitzberg <stationaery(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Before I confirm it this event I want to ask, Does anyone have any blocking
> concerns about this event?
I love the bees and I think it would be an honor to be swarmed by them!
We hosted them at 2141 once, and now my house has one of their giant
murals. I think it would also be a great opportunity to buy some art
for the Omni's walls. :)
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Found a box of soldering supplies and dropped it off at Sudo, along with a
working laptop suffering from minor mechanical issues. The screen-spring
is unhinged, requiring it to be leaned against something, but it'd make a
decent, maybe a public terminal.
--
Eric Anderson
206.295.1751
Oakland Local Archive <http://oaklandlocal.com/author/amasym/>
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Candace Lazarou
<candacelazarou(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Will this be around in 2 hours or so? I'm not a member of sudoroom yet
> because my work schedule has prevented me from attending a meeting for about
> a year now, BUT I wanted to stop by the omni, see the new space, and discuss
> possible membership now that things have settled down for me. Oh and also
> eat this food and grab some for communal houses, that sounds nice too.
It'll be around until it's gone. There's not many people here so far. :)
There is this fancy food startup in San Francisco which donates a meal
for every meal purchased: https://munchery.com/how-it-works/
Apparently "we provide a meal for someone in need" means their truck
drives around various places in Oakland until it's empty. And the Omni
has become the truck's last stop, which means this will happen every
Saturday. I counted 150+ packaged meals this run.
We may supplement this feast with an impromptu screening of Slavoj
Zizek about "the surprising ethical implications of charitable
giving": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAMbpQ8J7g
last night (sunday) as the last of us were getting ready to leave after a
long day of BACH, i noticed that Pidgeon was sitting alone in CCL with
headphones in and using a laptop.
[pidgeon prefers the pronoun "they" but it is a single person]
knowing that this person made trouble at noisebridge in the past, and
assuming that they were trying to squat the omni, i went up and gave
notice that "we are getting ready to leave and close up" and Pidgeon took
the hint and started packing up their backpack...
twenty minutes later pidgeon was still slowly gathering things together to
get ready to leave.. it was annoyingly obvious that they were trying to
delay leaving so that I would leave first and they could stay.
tonight, Korl mentioned that Pidgeon was present but did not seem to be
anyone's guest, and I agreed that they were here without anyone's
sponsorship of any kind. A person with no member-sponsor present can be
asked to leave for no reason, but before doing that I went to speak with
others present about the situation.
No one present claimed Pidgeon as their guest, or objected to asking them
to leave. I mentioned this to marc and started posting the following to
irc:
https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-February/042…https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-October/0399…
a minute later marc returned from a "sweep" of the building and found
Pidgeon in a downstairs room with the door pulled shut, getting
comfortable, lying on their belly listening to music.
Marc asked if they were part of a collective, Pidgeon said they were not,
and Marc said that we are not open to the public and asked them to leave.
please be aware that people are already trying to squat the omni and it
will only get more intense. I have no patience for this because I feel
that the omni is more valuable to us as a community space, shared for all,
rather than a big building to be turned into private quarters for the few
who care little enough about their community to do something like that.
Noisebridge regularly has problems with people sleeping on top of the
elevator, above the loft areas, and in the basement of the building, and
their building is not nearly as cavernous and expansive as ours.
-jake
If everyone on these lists gave a couple of bucks a week and at the least,
shared this link, we could collectively boost regular funds to Omni to
offset the cost of rent, utilities, taxes, building improvements, et al!
Please donate and share, even $1 a week adds up!
https://gratipay.com/omnicommons/
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Call to action for folks to come by tomorrow and help with ballroom/stage
cleanup!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:31 PM
Subject: [omni-discuss] Need help cleaning the ballroom this weekend!
To: "discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
Hi friends,
The Naomi Klein event is happening this Sunday morning at 10am.
I am going to spend as much time as I have tomorrow (Saturday) cleaning up
the ballroom and doing any little touch up jobs that I can.
If anyone is around I would greatly appreciate your help!
Things that need to get done:
- Remove from windows and store sound proofing baffles (these can probably
go into the ticket booth room - extra points if you feel like painting them
black!)
- Putting away tools on the stage - I organized these several weeks ago and
look at them! (cry!!!)
- Moving all sound equipment / speakers from stage - anyone know who this
stuff belongs to? If you can direct me, I will contact them!
- Moving punching bag - is this meant to live in the ballroom? Can we
identify a place to store it during events? Maybe the ticket booth room?
- General sweeping / dusting / cleaning
<3
Niki
646-577-7957
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Hey Omni booking folks + Sudo and friends,
The Beehive Collective was told by UC to relocate their Tuesday, Oct 21
event. They reached out to Omni through friends at the Gill Tract (see
occupythefarm.org). I know it's last minute, but there doesn't seem to be
anything on the calendar, so I put a hold for them.
Their request is to show their giant, portable murals about global issues
of all kinds at Omni, 6:30–9pm Tuesday, with appx. 25–50 guests. They are
an all-volunteer group on tour but can chip in some $ to Omni.
Before I confirm it this event I want to ask, *Does anyone have any
blocking concerns about this event?*
For more details, here's the blurb:
Based out of small-town Machias across the country in rural Maine, the
Beehive Design Collective is an all-volunteer organization of activists,
artists, educators and organizers. Our main focus is creating and
presenting graphic works about global issues internationally. These
portable murals are teeming with intricate images of plants and animals,
illustrating surreal but meticulously researched scenes of sociocultural
realities in the modern world. Not only are our graphics detailed,
beautiful works of art, but they also are tools in understanding the big
picture of a region's struggles.
Thanks,
Danny
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Danny Spitzberg <stationaery(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> PS folks from the Gill Tract and Occupy the Farm (separate groups with
> some overlapping members) intended to host the Beehive folks but ran into
> unfounded blocking from UC campus.
>
> April, might you be open to talking with them about possible collaboration
> for an event of some sort?
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:55 AM, april glaser <april.glaser(a)riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'd be happy to coordinate them doing a teaching at sudo. I think it'd
>> be a wonderful and edcuational gathering. Let me look at the calendar
>> and get back.
>> On 10/14/14 11:11 AM, yar wrote:
>> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:12 PM, april glaser <april.glaser(a)riseup.net>
>> wrote:
>> >> http://store.beehivecollective.org/
>> > Who wants to invite them to Sudo? :)
>>
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>
this is happening! a great example of empowered people using creativity to
solve problems. The bees do intense research on subjects like mountaintop
removal coal mining and now, California Water Politics (which i haven't
seen yet) and then they make a giant poster with compelling artwork that
makes it easy to see the big picture.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:37:47 -0700
From: Sakura Saunders <sakura.saunders(a)gmail.com>
To: Beehive Design Collective <pollinators(a)beehivecollective.org>
Subject: Bees swarm Bay Area with new graphic and tour! Oct 19-21
PLEASE FORWARD!
We have some exciting news: the Bees will be swarming the Bay Area with a
new graphic and tour focused on California water politics in the midst of a
massive drought. Sucked Dry: Examining Drought and Privatization from
Mesoamérica to California, draws inspiration from struggles against
large-scale
infrastructure projects throughout MesoAmerica, connecting local and the
global struggle for control and protection of water.
Oct 19: 2pm Dolores Park, SF
Oct 20: 6:30pm Greenpeace warehouse, 955 7th St., W. Oakland co-sponsored
by Rising Tide
Oct 21: 5:30pm Gill Tract Farm, Albany (at the intersection of Marin & San
Pablo) co-sponsored by Food & Water Watch & California Student
Sustainability Coalition
About the tour:
California is in the midst of a historical drought, the most severe the
region has had in the last 500 years. This water crisis has devastated
resources,
with several communities facing the prospect of running dry. A number of
projects advocating infrastructure development such as the BDCP and Prop 1
have
been proposed as solutions for the state, but are they truly in the
interests for all? What are their impacts to our drying rivers and
reservoirs?
Fisheries and communities? Drawing inspiration from struggles against
large-scale infrastructure projects throughout MesoAmerica, the Bees will
take you
on a visual journey touching on the local and the global struggle for
control and protection of water.
We will also be introducing a *brand new graphic* (still in draft form)
that deals specifically with the fight to stop the Tunnel project that
threatens
the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta
About the Bees
Based out of small-town Machias across the country in rural Maine, the
Beehive Design Collective is an all-volunteer organization of activists,
artists,
educators and organizers. Our main focus is creating and presenting graphic
works about global issues internationally. These portable murals are teeming
with intricate images of plants and animals, illustrating surreal but
meticulously researched scenes of sociocultural realities in the modern
world. Not
only are our graphics detailed, beautiful works of art, but they also are
tools in understanding the big picture of a region's struggles.
More on the Bees (VIDEO): http://www.upworthy.com/the-poster-is-mesmerizing-
the-story-it-tells-is-electrifying-have-you-seen
More on MesoAmérica Resisté (graphic): http://beehivecollective.org/beehive_
poster/mesoamerica-resiste/
with honey,
the bees"
*thanks to the Center for Biological Diversity and the Story of Stuff for
help spreading the word!
Hey SudoRoomers,
One Laptop Per Child San Francisco (OLPC-SF)[1] is a volunteer group
here in San Francisco. This weekend we're hosting our FREE annual
Community Summit[2]. Learn about the intersection of education and
technology in this global movement. We'll have folks from Sugar
Labs[3] presenting, the creators of the Sugar Learning Environment,
the free/libre open source software that powers the iconic XO laptop.
Following the Summit, we'll be hosting Turtle Art Day[4]! Turtle Art
is an application which teaches programming and design by moving a
turtle with a pen around the screen. This event is happening around
the world throughout October. Turtle Artists are gathering to teach
and learn together and celebrate Turtle Art. The event is geared
towards 6-12+ year-olds but no one is too old for Turtle Art! It's
free to attend, no hardware required -- just bring your creativity!
Location: San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway Avenue @ 19th Ave
Business Building 2nd floor, room 202
San Francisco, CA
When: Saturday October 18th OLPC-SF Community Summit
Sunday October 19th Turtle Art Day
[1] http://www.olpcsf.org
[2] http://www.olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2014
[3] http://www.sugarlabs.org
[4] http://www.olpcsf.org/TurtleArtDay2014
---
Hilary Naylor, Ph.D.
www.a2zed.us
Oakland CA
At tonight's Sudoroom meeting, there were no major objections to BDRM2
("the eyeball room") becoming dedicated and lockable for Backspace, or
to the DEN and STORAGE1 being schedulable commons where Backspace gets
priority. The biggest concern is that the Public School would still
have room for its evening classes, but we don't have enough info to
speak for them obviously.
Just curious - even though we all seem to be converging on a pattern
of scheduled multi-use space, there's still this distinction between
these rooms being "administered by Backspace" and "administered by the
commons working group." I know Backspace prefers the former, but can
you say a little about why, and what is the meaningful difference for
you? Is it the worry about being scheduled out? Is it the desire for
veto power over the layout and aesthetic of the spaces? Thanks.
Lastly, Matt pointed out some issues with how the money is being framed:
> We would pay $1000 per month starting in October.
Is this a typo? It seems to contradict the next section.
> Backspace founder Andrew Lowe put forward $6000 to the Omni for Backspace in May 2014. This money was paid ahead as a commitment by Backspace to the Omni and vice versa. We would like to allocate that money in the following way:
>
> $3000 for July Rent (first month, last month, deposit)
> $1000 for Septemer
> $1000 for October
> $1000 for November
Except what actually happened, was Backspace paid $2k for first month,
$2k for last month, and $2k for deposit, and then realized later that
they couldn't continue paying that much per month. It's not just a
semantic problem - that $2k deposit went to the landlord, and not to
the Omni. This pretends that Omni saw $1k that we didn't actually see.
Also, IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer) but it's a scary legal grey area for a
landlord to redefine deposit money as rent money. It might be better
to be honest about what happened instead of retconning it, and just
say that Omni is now giving Backspace a second chance to exist at Omni
with a grace period and a new "lease on life." Just a thought.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> The tension happening right now will be significantly reduced. We should
> keep the support of the future calendar in mind as we make our decisions
> about space.
>
> So, Yar and Jenny, thank you so much for working on this! Is there any way
> we non-tech people can help you? Any estimate of how long it will take?
It will take as long as it takes, somewhere between a day and a week
perhaps. The absolutely most helpful thing that people can do in the
meantime is to be extra nice to us and to each other and to
themselves. <3
On Thursday, October 16, 2014, Scott Nanos <scott.nanos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Crazy idea but I'm also a little worried that BAPS and commons
>> Wg don't have the labor power to handle all this commoning (pragmatically
>> speaking, in the form of scheduling and organizing)...
>>
>> What if Baps, backspace, and commons wg all teamed up on these common
>> spaces, granting *x* amount of privileged hours in specific areas for
>> collectives?
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Sara Larsen <saralarsenyoga(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> However, I feel like your suggestion is exactly what I was trying to move
> forward with the BAPS backspace proposal that BAPS recently voted against
> moving forward with!
Is that what happened? I didn't go to every single meeting but my
understanding was that BAPS were still open to it but needed more time
to talk about it and make up their minds, and Backspace just doesn't
want to wait any longer. It seemed (from the outside) like this
urgency and time pressure for Backspace was the biggest reason why
things didn't work out that way.
It's not that I blame you. I can imagine how frustrating it is to try
to organize a bunch of skeptical bodyworkers to do their work at Omni,
this weird building full of construction debris, contentious politics,
dysfunctional processes and so on. Trying to create a wellness
collective at Omni at this time is an ambitious goal and I fully
recognize and respect all the emotional labor that I've seen you and
other Backspace folks put into it, Sara, and I want it to succeed too.
I think the new energy and people you guys bring in will be an
especially valuable thing for all of us and our communities.
I only hope that you can try not to blame the rest of us either for
the difficult situation. We've all been working very hard with what we
have. I feel like we're reaching at each other through a fog of fear,
uncertainty and doubt, trying to make high-stakes decisions that might
affect us all years into the future, when we only have a few months or
even weeks of experience being in some of our spaces and learning to
know and trust all the people.
There are so many rooms with different names. It's been 24 hours since
your proposal and it's taken us this long just to be sure exactly
which rooms you're talking about. There's confusion over what
commoning means (the commons wg only started meeting 2 weeks ago),
what scheduling will feel like (we're still developing the calendar
system), what the rooms will look and feel like, whether people will
clean up their messes like they say they will, and any number of
hypothetical scarcities and disasters that we have no idea if the
future might bring.
It's not your fault, it's not anybody else's fault either. I really
hope the confusion isn't interpreted as bad faith or a lack of
support. We all need to get better at that, of course, but also get
better at forgiving each others' mistakes, in the spirit of jubilee.
Sorry for the rant, but thanks for listening. <3
Counter Culture Labs is starting a weekly Biohacker Social, Tuesdays at
7pm.
We'll have some free pizza and beer, some fun projects to ogle, maybe even
some hardware to disassemble and/or fix - and of course, your fellow
biohackers to socialize and brainstorm with!
http://www.meetup.com/Counter-Culture-Labs/events/209528582/
See you there!
Patrik
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is Backspace interested in sole use of that room, or open to the current
>> proposal of it being a dedicated Kids Room as well?
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:52 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> You're thinking of a different room - we've been calling the former
> TIL office the "Kids Room." Backspace is talking about the other room
> across from that one, under the staircase, which has BAPS books in it
> now.
Sorry about this. Jenny was right, I was wrong. Looks like Backspace
does want STORAGE2, the former TIL office. I'm not sure if it's ADA
accessible, haven't been in there since June. This makes it sort of
ambiguous since at Sudoroom meeting discussion we assumed it was
STORAGE1. Will need more time to make sure we are all still ok with
this. Sorry again.
Also, to address other concerns in this thread, IMO a good software
setup will solve a *lot* of the issues around space sharing and
scheduling. If we make it easy to schedule events and easy to see
what's scheduled, that could go a very long way. Jenny and I are still
working on that new calendar system and plan to put some good hacking
hours into it in the next few days.