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"Who needs hackers? 'Password1' opens a third of business' doors" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/15/hundreds_of_thousands_of_corporate_…

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Intro to JS

by Connor Leech

Hello everyone, I posted this event on Introduction to Javascript today: https://sudoroom.org/events/intro-to-javascript/ This is intended for beginners but all skill levels are welcome. I know for me initially learning to program was a bit daunting. There are lots of technologies and programming languages out there. It can be hard to figure out what to learn. Through this series it would be cool to get people on a track of learning how to learn programming. Open to everyone, totally free, 6pm today Connor questions: 415-717-5557

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Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge reboot party need volunteers!

by Praveen Sinha

Hey hackers, For those of you who don't know about the great Noisebridge reboot and party going on tomorrow, it's on like flan at 7! If anyone wants to help volunteer, now is a great time to get in contact with Christina! It's going to be fantastic! https://www.facebook.com/events/700607453322351/ I'll be there at some point! Much love, Praveen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: daravinne <daravinne(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:11 PM Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge reboot party need volunteers! To: noisebridge-discuss Discuss <noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net>, build <build(a)lists.noisebridge.net> hey peeps, the reboot party badly needs volunteers tonight and tomorrow afternoon to help rearrange the space to accommodate, well, a party! we are still deep in construction mode so any hands that can help stack and shuffle stuff are much appreciated! classes are on tonight, so there will be people around the space / doors open, as well as tomorrow afternoon. show up and help, and then help celebrate! _______________________________________________ Noisebridge-discuss mailing list Noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss

11 years, 7 months

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transport food for Noisebridge tonight?

by Mitch Altman

Danielle got a huge pile of yummy food donated by a farmers market in Oakland for the Noisebridge Grand Re-Opening Party tomorrow: Hummus, veggies, olives, other dips, a ridiculous amount of strawberries . . . But she needs someone to grab the stuff from her tonight, since she has an early morning appointment tomorrow. Anyone have a vehicle and wanna help grab the food from Oakland to Noisebridge tonight? If so, please contact me off-list, and I'll give you Danielle's contact info. Thanks, Mitch.

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SudoRoom Visit.

by Samir Faci

HI all, I just joined the mailing list not too long ago. I was going to stop by over the weekend to checkout the space and meet whoever is lurking around. I just wanted to see if there was any trick to getting in. Noisebridge has that quirky phone that never seems to work. Also, I'm a tech/linux enthusiast/developer/foss hippy that moved to the bay area a few years ago. Would love to get more involved especially as I'm debating moving to Oakland at some point in the foreseeable future. -- Thank you Samir Faci

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501c documentation request

by Whitney Lawrence

Hello, I'll be spearheading the 501c(3) efforts. I am going to need all the documents related to Sudo, tax documents, official filings to date, list of assets and liabilities (COH/ recent bank statement, lease, etc.) Additionally, to avoid re-doing work already done, I want to hear about any and all efforts related to acquiring 501c(3) status. My goal is to have an initial draft of our application prepared for members review by the middle/end of October 2014. Hopefully we can submit our finalized application before the holiday season. I look forward to working toward this important goal but I can't help without input from our more seasoned members. Please contact me with documentation, suggestions, experiences yada yada yada. -Whit

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Electrician to install

by Whitney Lawrence

Noob post, let me know if I'm not formatting properly or otherwise screwing this up. I have experience doing this type of install, I am not licensed. I think $400 is a fantastically cheep deal (labor and materials), however, I will need to discuss to be sure I have a handle on the scope of what Sudo wants. I am available this weekend to work on the install and am totally wiling to follow someone else's lead. We can borrow condi benders from the tool library up the street (tele @51st), they might even have a pull-tape which we will need. Lets talk to coordinate material lists, tools, and meeting time. I would suggest opting for quad plugs rather than duals, metal boxes w/ metal faces and individual wire spools for the the pulls (14awg white, blk and green). We need to make drawings of where the outlets will be & where we will access power. This is important because we may need to put in junction boxes for long runs and/or increase the condi size over 1/2 inch, and we are likely installing new 20A braker(s). Lastly, who will be signing off on the work prior to making it HOT? you can reach me at 510.396.5510 Thanks, Whitney

11 years, 7 months

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Help document #Ferguson!

by Marina Kukso

Hi all, A lot of folks are helping to document everything that's going on in Ferguson on the St. Louis LocalWiki: http://localwiki.net/st-louis/ You can see how much has been added just tonight: http://localwiki.net/st-louis/Ferguson But there's a lot more needed: http://localwiki.net/st-louis/Ferguson_Pages_Still_Needed You can help document everything that's going on by: - Adding information - links to news articles, etc. - Boosting the signal - you can get on social media & invite people to help contribute. Thanks for your time, Marina

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Noisebridge Grand Re Opening Party

by Mitch Altman

Please come to the **Noisebridge Grand Re-Opening Party** this Friday evening. We are ready to rock, and want you to come help us celebrate! Comedy! Music! Food! Drink! Demos! Awesome people! You! https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisebridge_Grand_Re-Opening_Party! 6pm to 10pm

11 years, 7 months

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Bed and Sofa need to go fast

by Arnas Lucassen

Hello anyone interested in this or knows someone who does http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/fuo/4615652069.html for omnioms there will be <http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/fuo/4615652069.html%C2%A0for%C2%A0omnioms%C…> a special discount. Also there is this for free http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/fuo/4615592800.html how do I know if it would <http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/fuo/4615592800.html%C2%A0how%C2%A0do%C2%A0I…> comply with the fire code in case The Omni would like it them self in case some of the current ones are not compliant. AL

11 years, 7 months

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electrician to install outlets

by Jake

I contacted an electrician who did work at my workplace a while ago, and asked about our situation (specifically at sudoroom) he charges $45 per hour and can provide a proper invoice, however he is not a "C10" certifiable electrician. But the work he would do would satisfy a C10 (such as the one he knows) if we were to hire one to "sign off" on stuff. Unless someone on one of these lists has a conduit bender and enjoys running pipe and installing outlets (while following all obscure rules), I think we should hire Taylor to install outlets in sudoroom (and wherever else they are needed) I volunteered to be his helper, working (and managing other volunteers) to help the job go as quickly as possible, thus saving money and his time. But I would need approval from whatever group would be paying for his labor, and the materials that we will need to do the job. my guess is that the job will cost $400 including materials, but i have never done a job like this before so it is only a guess. My notes are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fgw5himtlmemiXReP-fG6rP-I2RoXsSP_MA… thank you -jake

11 years, 7 months

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voice tech event in San Leandro

by J Clark

Hi Sudoers, Wanted to invite you to an event that I'm hosting on Thursday eve: *Intelligent Assistance and Trusted Conversations* http://sl-co.com/intelligent-assistance-and-trusted-conversations/ Thursday 14 August, 6:30pm to 8pm The speaker, Dan Miller, is an analyst with Opus Research (not selling anything). In light of all the news about voice, AI, and biometrics being used to "save you from passwords" or identify you by your walk and movement, or extend Siri to actually check your calendar AND book a reservation in the same request... there's a lot of intriguing technology in this field. If you use a phone, you're part of it. The talk is free. judi -- *San Leandro Coworking* 400 Estudillo Ave., #204 San Leandro, CA 94577 +1-510-398-4000 http://sl-co.com

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Cat6 Donation, should I take it? (Punch Down Tool Needed)

by Somebody

SUPER-THANKS to 'Kare Raisu' for bringing the punch down tool and helping with the first patch panel! We got the first patch panel completed, and Kare agreed to continue working on the second one on Wednesday. The first part took way longer than I expected. Well, it was our first one ever. We learned lots of little tricks on how to proceed best. At first it seems like just plug it in and punch it. There were little unknowns that we didn't know that we now know. :) > > > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Somebody <somebody(a)riseup.net > <mailto:somebody@riseup.net>> wrote: > > Well, it seems that we don't have a Punch Down tool > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_down_tool) to finish the job. > I even went home and spent about 20 minutes looking for it, no > luck. Definitely MIA. > > Anyway, I have cut the 24 pieces and I am in the process to > prepare the ends. After that is when the Punch Down tool is > needed. > We need that tool. > > Please let us know if we may use yours. > > Thx! > > > > On 8/10/14, 5:06 PM, Somebody wrote: > > The network cable saga continues. Yes, it does. Its tiresome at times. :) > > > > Hello All, > > > > The two boxes of donated cable are a bit quite confusing, > at least for me. :) > > I am not sure if they are really CAT6 or simply CAT5e; > regardless than it claims to be a "GigaSPEED" cable. > > I attached an image of their label so you can see what I am > mean. > > > > Anyhow... I am taking the task of setting up the two donated > CAT5e patch panels between the Switch Rack to Server Rack. > Hopefully it will be done this evening. > > > > And just you know, it won't hurt my feelings if it is > decided that this cable sucks. We can always remove it, and > install something that we really know what it is. > > > > Thx! > > > > > > > > > > On 8/8/14, 2:29 PM, max b wrote: > > > I totally read up to "should I take them?" and almost > yelled at my computer YES!!! > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Somebody > <somebody(a)riseup.net <mailto:somebody@riseup.net> > <mailto:somebody@riseup.net> <mailto:somebody@riseup.net>> wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > Good news! I got an email offering 2 almost full boxes > of CAT6 cable. > > > > > > Should I take them? > > > > > > Kidding! I replied yes and went to get them. I will > bring them in tonight. > > > > > > More deets later, I am in my lunch time w the food in > front of me and I am really hungry. :) > > > > > > Thx! > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > “Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if > you can't help them, at least don't hurt them.” ~Tibetan Quote > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > -- > > “Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you > can't help them, at least don't hurt them.” ~Tibetan Quote > > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > -- “Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them.” ~Tibetan Quote

11 years, 7 months

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3D Printer Repair Needed

by matt elkins

Hey everyone at sudo discuss! My name is Matt and I am looking for a person who is good with 3D printer mechanics to work on my Ultimaker v1. There are only a few minor problems with it such as the axis are misaligned, and I want to add a heated bed (requires a relay and some soldering and wiring) this stuff is super easy for someone who knows what they are doing. i do not haha. would anyone be willing to fix this problem for me? I can give you many frankinscents and muur

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Cat6 Donation, should I take it?

by Somebody

Hello all, Good news! I got an email offering 2 almost full boxes of CAT6 cable. Should I take them? Kidding! I replied yes and went to get them. I will bring them in tonight. More deets later, I am in my lunch time w the food in front of me and I am really hungry. :) Thx!

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Donation guidelines

by Marc Juul

Hi sudoers. I added some donation guidelines so people will know what to bring and what not to bring to sudo room: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Donations Now we can just point people here if they ask about dropping off donations. I also added a link to this page from the left menu of the sudo wiki. Of course feel free to edit/append if you don't agree with the list. -- marc/juul

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Sudo basement things moving into Sudo 6pmish - make room?

by David Keenan

Just another note - if Sudoers that are at Omni today could possibly: - start moving Sudo basmeent things into Sudo any time (copier, etc) - make a place for those things in Sudo That'd be great. Thanks! David

11 years, 7 months

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MaptimeSF OpenStreetmap 10th Anniv. party this Sat.!

by Marina Kukso

Hi all, MaptimeSF <http://www.meetup.com/Maptime-SF/> is having an OpenStreetMap 10th Anniversary Party and OSM mapathon this Saturday from 2-5PM at the Stamen Design office in SF. I've been meaning to check out MaptimeSF and meet some of the folks in the geo community in the area and this seems like a perfect occasion. (Especially since mapping is such a core part of LocalWiki <http://localwiki.org>) Hope to see you there! Details: http://www.meetup.com/Maptime-SF/events/199399492/?fromJoin=199399492 - Marina

11 years, 8 months

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Head for the hills

by Ed Biow

Greetings comrades, cronies, & contemporaries, As I may have intimated, I'm spending the moeity of the month of August canoe camping on our favorite lake in the Sierras, Utica Reservoir. <http://www.ebiow.yasashi.net/images/UTICA/> It is really lovely here, about 3.5 hours from Oakland at about 7,000 feet, great swimming and hiking, and since this is dispersed camping, you don't have to pay fees, listen to generators or suck SUV fumes. Anywho, I schlepped along a metric buttload of extra gear, so if you feel so inclined, please come on up. I have 3 extra tents, 5 sleeping bags, pads, plates, utensils, stoves, tables, chairs, cooking gear, the whole magila, so you only need to bring your clothes and any food you might want to consume (I'll have plenty of rice and beans, but few other goodies). I'll be here until August 30th because I have a funeral in Watsonville on the 31st. August 2014 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 The problem is where I'm camping is not immediately obvious if you haven't been here before (which many of you have). I'm at Point Edmund, to those who have been here, our favorite spot. And even many of you who have been here do not remember the specific directions well. So best is if you can hook up with my first wife Kathy, who is coming up Friday the 15th at about 1 PM and Thursday the 21st at roughly 5:30 PM. She'll be returning Sundays. She has room for 1 or 2 extra folks on the 15th & maybe 1 on the 21st, but you can caravan with her and she can lead folks to the spot. You can call her on her cell phone at 510-326-9328 or try our home phone at 510-763-0591. Or you can try to hook up with one of the people who has been here before and of course, if you know the way, feel free to come by whenever you want. If there is enough interest I might also go back to the hills in mid-September for a stretch, about the same time as the infamous Occupy Utica <http://www.ebiow.yasashi.net/videos/OccupyUticaLake_2013.avi> escapade last year. The hopes of the free (or at least the very cheap) world go with you, Ed PS: I don't have internet up here and will only be scanning my email periodically from a nearby internet cafe. Those of you with deep pockets and ATT phone service can get reception here. Kathleen is not an internet afficiando. Her schedule is fairly rigid, so if you wish to join her you should be at Slothaven on time.

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3D Printing Repair

by Matt Elkins

Hey guys. My name is Matt. I don't know if this message went through last time, so I am sending it again, and sorry if you are seeing this twice I have a Ultimaker v1 that needs a heated bed added to it ( have the parts except relay) and the axis' realigned. Simple stuff but I am not mechanically inclined enough to know what strength relay I need, or know how to solder and wire things. If you know how to build a 3D printer, and are confident that you can handle this task, get in touch through this email deal-e-o and lets talk. I can get you some money in exchange for your services of course. Or maybe some prints!

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Meeting Notes 8/6

by Jenny Ryan

Apologies for the delay. Meeting notes from this week! tl;dr: ANNOUNCEMENTS: - Sudo sponsoring event with Critical Resistance on September 20th w/ Cece McDonald - Startup weekend Sept 12-14 - 50% discount codes - talk to Brendan... or just use 'sudoroom'. Free food! $25! - Next Newbie Night: Wednesday, August 13th, 5-8pm hosted by Juul & Jake! NEW MEMBERS! ...up for 'extended pondering' this week. Please reply if you have any objection to these new members! - Timothy - Why do you want to be a member? Likes working with other people, would be nice to work here - What are you excited to do at sudo room? Hacking on his own stuff, open source, perhaps collaborators? - What do you hope to share with Sudo Room? Pair programming, sudo web infrastructure, doesn't do php really (mostly ruby) - Hasn't been banned from a hackerspace! - Boyd - Why do you want to be a member? I like this new movement for hacktivism around the world and making things that already exist work better. - What are you excited to do at sudo room? I'm not very good with code, but I think it'd be cool if I was. Found out about sudo from Andrew/backspace, used to come to the leather workshop. Moved close by, interested in the mesh. Scarred by previous Comcast employment. Democratizing internet access. Likes climbing and being handy - What do you hope to share with Sudo Room? Sharing excitement and enthusiasm. - Has not been kicked out of a hackerspace, that they know of. - Grew up in the midwest. Cops were nice there and gave you ice cream for wearing your bike helmet. - Really wants to see the robot do cool things. CONFLICT RESOLUTION: (via Hol): 1. No conclusive evidence found to support accusation based on review of available info over 2 weeks. Whatever we do now sets the precedent for future cases - person who brought the matter up (daniel) is OK to allow Phil back in. Felt it was his duty to speak up since the concern had not been proactively addressed by Phil. 2. Further research continues as to nature of threat to privacy and risk of disruption from outside groups with ill intentions. Sudoers interested in the topic of entities related to this accusation, particularly the DAC, should feel free to get in touch and assist with research. 3. Consensus is a process susceptible to disruption. We should think about cases when it is better to fork into parallel paths to avoid gridlock, and consider ways to amend our policies to become structurally hardened against this type of attack. In some cases, it may seem that consensus on an item has been reached when discussion is still warranted, and dissenting views may trigger accusations of intentional disruption. People may have conflicting views or different approaches socially, legally, etc. Emphasize respect for different points of view while keeping an eye out for intentional disruption. Need to be able to handle and attenuate disruption whether intentional or unintentional. Meeting minutes recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-08-06 Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

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thermal conductivity question

by Jake

can someone help me understand the unit W/m.K it's a measurement of thermal conductivity of a material. I don't really understand. I get W/K or K/W but i don't understand where the meter comes in. For a flat material of a specified thickness, i would understand watts per degree per square meter, but i don't get the single meter thing. here is an example: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001122759700146X how does that measurement work?

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SudoRoom - A love story RenPay game - workshop

by Romy Ilano

Hi, I know that SudoRoom isn't Open yet. When SudoRoom reopens will be there be a TODAY I LEARNED? I never got around to demo'ing the RenPy game*: SudoRoom LOVE STORY* https://github.com/romyilano/SudoRoom-Love-Story It would be fun to show it. Cheers, Romy ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [sudo-board] CA Non-profit & 501c(3) status

by yar

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > But we never actually followed up with the IRS. We still > have to file our 1023 to officially ask for 501c3 status. We should follow this thread closely. :) http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-August/009823.html "[hackerspaces] Examples of IRS 1023 froms Nonprofit Makerspaces"

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Hardware for the masses

by Ed Biow

As some of you have noticed I can be flakier then a lethal case of psoriasis, but I've finally got a couple of images ready to muck with those 50 or so machines that are providing cover for the rats' nest right now. Unfortunately, I'm planning on leaving town for a few weeks to go camping so I won't be able to show folks how I'd like to process the buggers. But I have actually typed up a set of instructions if folks can't be bothered to await my second coming. I took one of the dual core machines, installed Kubuntu 14.04, imaged it and then set it up as a local server. It is over towards the computer hardware wall on one of the tables, ready for enterprising folks to have at. It is a boxy Dell a wifi PCI card so it can get the internet and its ethernet is configured to provide a connection of other boxes through a little switch. The machine (whose hostname is Spartacus) is also attached to a KVM switch so it can share its monitor, keyboard and mouse with up to 3 other machines that are being worked on. There is a black button to control which machine has the KVM's attention at the moment. So Spartacus is configured with a number of services. 1. Apache web server which has the incomplete instructions about how to image the new boxes (there is also a crumpled piece of paper there with some of the instructions). 2. Samba file server to host the images, one for the old Dells under the server rack (40 GB hard drives) and the other for the somewhat newer dual core machines near the 3D printer. 3. Approx, a deb installation file caching proxy, so you can quickly download and install Debian and Ubuntu packages instead of downloading them afresh for each machine. When I have time when I get back I'll put the approx cache on an encrypted partition so it will be harder to muck with. I'll also use the machine to host Linux & BSD distro isos. I'll also include instructions about how to use approx for your personal machines with a few easily-to-follow instructions. I put all that stuff at sudoroom, but wasn't able to totally finish the instructions when I was there. But I mailed an updated "index.html" file and an updated installation script to an account that I set up on Spartacus and its clones, sudoroomie(a)gmail.com. If some helpful person wants they can open Thunderbird, download the 2 files and put up them in /var/www/html. You'll have to sudo to get them there, that directory is owned by root. Anywho, the upshot is, boot up Spartacus, hook up a machine you wish to image, then follow the directions on Spartacus (use a web browser to go to http://localhost). You can use the live CDs or the 256MB USB stick I left there to install the image. When I get back I'll make another install image or two for Debian testing and maybe a 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04 image, as well. The instructions are annoyingly long and don't cover many of the cases that will undoubtedly emerge. If & when I get back in September I plan to start hosting a regular Friday afternoon/evening Linux InstallFest where folks can come to get Linux help, share tips, get access to installation media, and perhaps eat some warmish pizza when I get back from my weekly donation run at 9PM. If you want to install Linux on the machines without my image server there are a bunch of DVDs in a Microsoft Developer kit binder over on hardware wall. But if you don't want to place the box in a home somewhere, please label the sucker appropriately so people who want to use them know what they are getting in to. Also, this should go without typing, please leave my KVM switch, ethernet switch & USB stick more or less where they are, or at least tell me where they have been moved. If any of you are at loose ends this month feel free to join me dispersed canoe camping <https://www.google.com/images?q=Utica%20Reservoir&sa=N&tab=wi&gws_rd=ssl> about 3.5 hours from here in the National Forest in the Sierras. My first (and so far only) wife Kathy will be driving up on Thursday or Friday nights so you can get a ride with her or at least have her show you how to get there. We'll have a couple of extra tents and a few bags & pads and have extra chairs, plates, etc., so you just need to bring your food, grog & clothes (provided the camping gear isn't otherwise spoken for that weakend). I'm hoping I'll be able to get intermittent Internet access at the coffee shop in Bear Valley, about 3 steep miles away. Anywho, my home number is 510-763-0591. The phone is even dumber then I am so you'll have to leave a call-back number loudly and clearly on our 20 year old $5 answering machine. If I'm spared I'll be back in early September. e On 07/30/2014 09:42 PM, Marina Kukso wrote: > Hi Ed, > > Just a quick ping (with a few other interested parties copied) > regarding the status of the computers and what we can do to help! If > the computers are already at sudo and if there's any testing/setup > that we can do now, just let me know. > > Best, > Marina >

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