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Substitute for Timelist Group (Incarceration Support Network Non-Profit)

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, I will be out of town for the next meeting of the Timelist Group at sudo room: https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/2183/?instance_id=75199 Is anyone available to be a point-person, help the organizers with hosting, and ensure everything is cleaned up at the end? Thanks, Matt

12 years, 3 months

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This Sat 12/8: Today We Learned: DATA

by Marina Kukso

Hi everyone, Please join us at Sudo Room <http://sudoroom.org> this Sat. 12/8 for "Today We Learned<https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/today-we-learned-weekly-colearning/?instan…>," weekly co-learning. This week, we'll have the usual free-form learning and exploration along with discussions about DATA. If you have questions about this most mystical of topics, bring them on Saturday and we'll talk figure it out. [image: Inline image 1] - Marina

12 years, 3 months

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PLEASE GIVE to sudoroom gittip!

by Yardena Cohen

I dearly implore you to slightly compromise your anonymity by signing up for gittip and donating a few $/week to sudoroom. https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/ The hardest part is overcoming that psychological barrier by entering your credit/debit card # - after that it will be easy, and you will be making a real difference for all the hard-working folks who volunteer here everyday. Even if you haven't been to sudo lately for whatever reason, I can't emphasize enough how much it means to us on the ground. Every dollar you give translates DIRECTLY into the love-powered energy that helps us keep the space clean, open, safe, accessible and hopping with life. None of us are paid for this, few of us are wealthy, many of us are struggling. Here's what our expenses cost approximately per week: $9 for the server that powers this very mailing list, our homepage, blog, wiki, and dev environments for many other projects! $15 for services such as trash pickup that keeps our hackers from being devoured by mutant flies and keeps our landlord's head from combusting spontaneously on every visit! $25 goes to our sweet, privacy-conscious, locally owned, ISP to bring internets to our public terminals, raspis, radio stream, and about a billion laptops and phones every week! $70-90 for our utilities, including power for our lights, computers, devices, fridge, ac/heat, printers, dishwasher, crock pot, coffee pot! $345 to rent our current space, with some prospective spaces approaching $500+/week. This space has so much value as an open community space which enables so many people and groups to accomplish awesome things! $infinite for the inspiration to learn and create beautiful things, which we have MORE TIME FOR when we are not struggling over the basics!!! That's where we are right now too often, and we ALL would like more time for the fun stuff. That will be a lot easier if you all give to sudoroom, so PLEASE CHIP IN now <3<3<3 https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/ Right now we make $96.67. If we make over $138.75 we get bumped to the front page as a top receiver. If we make $500 we will finally have our basics covered and be free to dream even bigger. Thanks so much! P.S. Really though, they are pretty good about protecting your identity: "Gittip makes reasonable efforts not to share your personal information with the recipients of your gifts, so that particular gifts are anonymous. We do publicly share aggregated information about your giving and receiving. You may opt out of publicly sharing your aggregate giving." https://www.gittip.com/about/privacy/

12 years, 4 months

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big garbage dump run help?

by David Keenan

So there is an old futon and a broken filing cabinet in the alley garbage room that is apparently ours (sudo's) - they will not fit in the garbage can, will anyone help me bring it to the dump tomorrow afternoon? as i'd rather not manhandle it by myself Anything else we can take to the dump? David

12 years, 4 months

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Omni Meeting Minutes

by Max Klein

==Intros== David Brazil - BAPS, organizer of meeting Tom - sudo Max - Sudo Room Carrie – budding photo collective interested in a space - doesn't have a name yet Jenny - Sudo Room Margitte - Movement artist and dancer; Chinese energetics (Tai Chi, Xi Gong) looking for a space Mara - SALTA collective dancing Jeremy - monthly show with interviews and performances Marc - Sudo Room / People's Open Network / Counter Culture Labs Niki - Bay Area Public School Pam - BAPS / Bookstore Publishing Collective [currently a dream] Owen - a friend of the Public School Zach - BayBucks / SNAPS [cooperative nonprofit that does after school activities with autism spectrum students] David K - BAPS / sudo Tooth - from blackhole cinemateque So list of interested cooperatives so far *Bay Area Public School *Sudo Room *Counter Culture Labs *Salta Dance *Unnamed Photo Collective *Chinese Energetics *Timeless Infinite Light *Local Flavor *Planting Justice *Film collective *Collective Book store ==Notes== David K presents. *right now the biggest hurdle is parking 1 for every 1000 feet^feet. could get variance if we petitioned to city council "do we want a place were people can sign up for the revolution?" someon else mousily: "yes" Question: What happened to the group headed by Olmstead? Their business plan was not viable. In what ways was it not viable? And have they completely given up? *Seeking radical community organizing groups to share the space with us. *David's been talking to the Perlinger Library (who are running out of space) about having a satellite space there *To some degree, we could build out the second floor (60ft ceilings) *Zoning is great, with the exception of needing to apply for zoning for community assembly (60+ people) ---scrubbed finacial info for privacy *2-3 year lease with someone on the hook (guarantors) - $1x,xxx/month to lease The bottom rung on getting in there: *first, last, deposit, = $yyk, plus garauntors *without garantor ~$zzk ===discussion=== zach - national cooperative bank usually helps david - reads a visioning statement. BAPS has always been about organizing post-occupy. its always been about a commune where members get their needs met without the mediation of money. that's what magrit - i might charge money for classes is that a problem? : david - no, of course we have to have commerical means to pay the rent, clay - what would the decisions be like for the mega collective : david - ive made this draft "collective of collectives" delegates to an exexcutive council that makes binding decision by consensus. Owen - so sudo is not on board? : max - no actually i was the main dissenter, and i've since reversed and am rallying sudo to that end. clay - what's with the time bank? ; zach - that's defunct Carrie - what's your minimum committment for a new group? : niko - tell us what you can afford. its not like we will determine your space by money. bring everybody, if we have enough cash to move in well then figure it out. Magrit - what's hte time horizon? david k - well owner woudl take $2M if someone offered it tomorrow. however owner wants our kind of ideas. even until march would probably be OKAY. magrit are there times when we get into the space? they live there so we could schedule a visit but maybe not more than 8 people? owen? whats the maintenance of the building. davind k - ive had architect friend check it out Nikki - let me reiterate that even if its not the omni we will sitll make the collective of collectives. David b - notify other collectives to join us Tooth - i am involved in an artist run film lab. Mara - i will talk to Salta, can we just have a few months of the year? : David K. we can schedule a common area? zach - bar could subsidize : niko - wouldnt' be fantastic for safe space

12 years, 4 months

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artmurmur - saturday stroll + involving noisebridge?

by Romy Ilano

Hi all As you know, Oakland has the oakland art murmur on First Fridays. SudoRoom is in Oakland, and often people end up going to SudoRoom as an afterparty, when art murmur ends (around 9-10pm) There is also a "Saturday Stroll" where we can have SudoRoom open Saturday mornings+afternoons. This is a much more laid back affair. - *Could we involve Noisebridge in the art murmur at SudoRoom?* We would be able to have more art on display, and we could sell some more electronics kits, noisebridge t-shirts, etc? I am at Noisebridge a lot so I will investigate. I think it would be good to pool resources, and create a link between SF and Oakland Anyone interested in manning on a Saturday Stroll?

12 years, 4 months

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Fwd: sudo-announce Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2

by Romy Ilano

Hi I added yardena's git tip as a blog post (protecting her identity though) -> help me obi wan kenobi https://sudoroom.org/help-me-obi-wan-kenobi/ feel free to share on your various social media outlets... like Diaspora or app.net =D -- you are on there right? it's high time I get back on those sites again. And Facebook etc. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <sudo-announce-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:00 PM Subject: sudo-announce Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2 To: sudo-announce(a)lists.sudoroom.org Send sudo-announce mailing list submissions to sudo-announce(a)lists.sudoroom.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to sudo-announce-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org You can reach the person managing the list at sudo-announce-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of sudo-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. PLEASE GIVE to sudoroom gittip! (Yardena Cohen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:14:50 -0800 From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> To: sudo-announce(a)lists.sudoroom.org, sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudo-announce] PLEASE GIVE to sudoroom gittip! Message-ID: <CAEi7jy3qYrNRQygKssobvqNdn4uBbH1OaBhQy6KxbM1LiCb6Ew(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I dearly implore you to slightly compromise your anonymity by signing up for gittip and donating a few $/week to sudoroom. https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/ The hardest part is overcoming that psychological barrier by entering your credit/debit card # - after that it will be easy, and you will be making a real difference for all the hard-working folks who volunteer here everyday. Even if you haven't been to sudo lately for whatever reason, I can't emphasize enough how much it means to us on the ground. Every dollar you give translates DIRECTLY into the love-powered energy that helps us keep the space clean, open, safe, accessible and hopping with life. None of us are paid for this, few of us are wealthy, many of us are struggling. Here's what our expenses cost approximately per week: $9 for the server that powers this very mailing list, our homepage, blog, wiki, and dev environments for many other projects! $15 for services such as trash pickup that keeps our hackers from being devoured by mutant flies and keeps our landlord's head from combusting spontaneously on every visit! $25 goes to our sweet, privacy-conscious, locally owned, ISP to bring internets to our public terminals, raspis, radio stream, and about a billion laptops and phones every week! $70-90 for our utilities, including power for our lights, computers, devices, fridge, ac/heat, printers, dishwasher, crock pot, coffee pot! $345 to rent our current space, with some prospective spaces approaching $500+/week. This space has so much value as an open community space which enables so many people and groups to accomplish awesome things! $infinite for the inspiration to learn and create beautiful things, which we have MORE TIME FOR when we are not struggling over the basics!!! That's where we are right now too often, and we ALL would like more time for the fun stuff. That will be a lot easier if you all give to sudoroom, so PLEASE CHIP IN now <3<3<3 https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/ Right now we make $96.67. If we make over $138.75 we get bumped to the front page as a top receiver. If we make $500 we will finally have our basics covered and be free to dream even bigger. Thanks so much! P.S. Really though, they are pretty good about protecting your identity: "Gittip makes reasonable efforts not to share your personal information with the recipients of your gifts, so that particular gifts are anonymous. We do publicly share aggregated information about your giving and receiving. You may opt out of publicly sharing your aggregate giving." https://www.gittip.com/about/privacy/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ sudo-announce mailing list sudo-announce(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-announce End of sudo-announce Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2 ********************************************

12 years, 4 months

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sudoroom logo -> could we get the new logo up on the wiki page?

by Romy Ilano

Hi, could we get the new sudoroom logo up (vector ) on the wiki page? https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Logo

12 years, 4 months

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Response from AORTA Collective about Racism Education options in Sudo Room

by Max Klein

Hello All, I have been really disheartened about what's been happening on list about Racism and other prejudices. So I wrote and spoke to the AORTA (Anti Oppression Resources and Training Alliance) collective http://aortacollective.org/ about how they could help us bring some common understanding. Forwarded is the email they returned. I'm not pushing any perspective, even not that AORTA can help us, or that we even "need help". I just wanted to share with you one of the things we could do, and solicit your input if you felt like giving it. with sudo love -Max aka notconfusing ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: kiran nigam <kiran(a)aortacollective.org> Date: 4 December 2013 14:36 Subject: Options for the Sudo Room To: Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> Hi Max! As we talked about yesterday, here are some options for the Sudo Room to consider. *A training on race and racism.* I would recommend no less than 4 hours for a training on race and racism. This interactive workshop deconstructs the ways that systemic racism impact our work, our interpersonal interaction, or individual biases and prejudices, and our communities. Together we share (and learn) concepts, skills, and language to push us further and help change behavior, words, and actions to build racial justice. The pro of this is that if many people come, it can move the group's understanding further and build community by engaging together in meaningful dialogue and learning. The con is that if people don't show up for it (and often those who would most benefit from the workshop are the ones who don't come), then the benefits won't happen. Or, a small group will attend, which then runs the risk of building resentment or tension between those who attended and those who did not. *A Facilitated Discussion, with the Goal of Developing Values or Points of Unity* This would look different than a workshop. The goal would be to facilitate the group through a process of working together to build shared values, points of unity, or expectations for behavior. This would be facilitated in a lively, interactive manner. (Think more retreat, less business meeting.) The benefit of this is that it can be a very team building process. Additionally, this is something that is very helpful for new and developing groups to do, because it helps give you a foundation upon which you can do your work, and clear shared values and expectations that you can return to as a basis for addressing behavior that is hurtful or inappropriate. If you don't have things like this, then you don't have a group mandate to interrupt or address such behavior, and if/when you do, it's on a case by case basis, which can lead to things feeling very personal. The downside is that you don't directly address systemic oppression, or the recent email thread. However, doing this does not mean that you can't also choose to have a workshop, a series of workshops, or other forms of ongoing education. *Payment* AORTA charges on a sliding scale. For non-profit groups with a slim budget, that scale starts at $150/hour for facilitation and slides down to $50/hour. We ask organizations with access to funding to pay as high on the scale are they are able and feels fair. This helps support the free and low-cost work we do with organizations and community groups with low/no budget. We prioritize political groups, community campaigns, and movement building organizations for our free and low-cost work.

12 years, 4 months

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rank-ass smell on ground flr - our fault?

by David Keenan

Not at all seeking to cast blame on anyone at all, but us the garbage-y smell on the ground floor by the 22nd st entrance our fault at all? i only ask because im going to ask George and Laurie to take care of it (remove any hidden trash in the closet, shampoo the carpets, or something) thanks, David

12 years, 4 months

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Sudo Room Informational Flyer

by Jenny Ryan

Designed to be folded in half. I'll print them tomorrow but I wanted to send along to the list to solicit feedback first. Let me know what you think! <3 Jenny

12 years, 4 months

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First Friday party

by Chris Bee

So despite having talked with Phylean on a few different occasions I'm still not sure what's going on with this....I asked Phylean to hang out last night prior to the meeting, she said "Okay" then left for the duration of the meeting. I don't know whether anything was discussed regarding this, I told her that there was a public school event tomorrow and that I didn't want to conflict with that (e.g. loud music doesn't mix well with poetry readings) but that kind of got glossed over as well. Bottom line is.....I'm not sure who is responsible for this event, so if it doesn't happen I won't be too disappointed. What I would mind is if a) Phylean IS the responsible party/bottom-liner and B) she showed up with a bunch of equipment and a crew of people ready to party at the last minute (let's say, any time after 8 pm Friday) without keeping sudo up to date. I spoke with femalefaust, who believes that Phylean WOULD have this under control if she understood what was required from her regarding organization of events and that my confusion here is simply a matter of Phylean not knowing how to interface with sudo as a group. That's understandable, but it's also kind of crazy-making. I would like to see this party happen, but I'm unclear on most (if not all) of the key details at this point. Has anyone else discussed this event with her? Am I the unofficial liaison here or have other sudoers been involved? -chrisbee

12 years, 4 months

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Re: [sudo-discuss] sudoroom meeting tonight!

by The Batkid

"Phukin Phylean" has had sudo room members post their personal phone number to the list, and I bet Phukin Phylean would be stoked that their phone number is out there again. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hol Gaskill Sent: 12/05/13 08:17 AM To: isalix(a)gmail.com Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] sudoroom meeting tonight! please avoid posting other peoples' phone/personal info to the list cheers Dec 5, 2013 01:16:59 AM, isalix(a)gmail.com wrote: Meeting Minutes: > >https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013-12-04 >==post-meeting teamups==radio wavesfirst friday plannings with Phylean ** djs, security, donations, drinks, outreach** phylean's # is <HARD TO GUESS>

12 years, 4 months

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Internet Archive December events!

by Vicky Knox

All events are being held at the Internet Archive church, which is majestic and highly recommended if you haven't been before... 300 Funston Ave. San Francisco, CA 94118 [Weds. Dec. 11th] [NSA Comedy Tour with Will Durst! A Night of Comedy, Ethics & Tech] Reception 6p//Comedy and Panel 7-9p "EthicsInTech presents a fun night of Comedy, Ethics & Technology to help protect the Fourth Amendment and our constitutional rights and freedoms. The goal of the event is to entertain, educate and bring to light issues concerning ethical use of technology and how it can help or curtail individual rights and freedoms. This holiday charity event is focused on increasing public awareness through expert panel discussions on how those rights are being violated by the National Security Administration." [Weds. Dec. 18th] [Lost Landscapes of San Francisco: Fundraiser Benefitting Internet Archive] Reception 6p//Film 7:30p "Rick Prelinger’s Lost Landscapes of San Francisco is a movie happening that brings old-time San Francisco footage and our community together in an interactive crowd-driven event."

12 years, 4 months

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sudoroom meeting tonight!

by Romy Ilano

LET"S PARTY! it is a time for change a time for healing a time for recovering of broken, abandoned hearts IMPORTANT STUFF IS GOING ON let's get the talking off list and dance in person!

12 years, 4 months

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Don't drink/tamper with the mate in the fridge because...

by Chris Bee

To answer Matt and the rest of the group who would like to partake in the wonder that is sudo mate- As of 6 pm Wed it's good to go! It's a little less bubbly and on the dry (less sweet) side but I drank two small glasses earlier and nearly had a panic attack. Until we figure out a better distribution procedure we're going to be using the "keg in the fridge" method of dispersal at sudo. So far the other solutions we've come up with (the best two to date being growlers and/or flip top bottles) requires capital we don't have at the moment....rest assured we (me and the other Marc) are working on it. If you have any ideas we'd love to hear them, but bear in mind we're trying to do this on a minimal budget. Also, please keep the donations coming! We pretty much broke even on the last batch, but would like to do a little better in the future so we can spread the love. Other places want to get in on the mate action and we're anxious to make that happen. Buzzlingly, -chrisbee On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote: > When will it be ready? > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Chris Bee <hotelcompany(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> ...for some reason it didn't carbonate, so it's going to do so in the >> sudo fridge for the next couple days. That means we had to bring the CO2 up >> to 14 psi, which is considerably over serving pressure (5 psi). So, unless >> you feel up to a flat mate shower, please do not tap the keg till it's >> ready. >> >> "We will not drink any mate before its time." -Orson Welles, famous >> sudoer (I think) >> >> -chrisbee >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >

12 years, 4 months

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Possible new sudo space

by Marc Juul

Matt, Jenny and myself went and looked at another space that could potentially be a new sudo space. We've started gathering information about it here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice My personal feeling about the space is: This is an awesome space with lots of natural light. It addresses two of the major concerns raised about The Omni in being two blocks from BART in a neighborhood that seems/feels safer than the area around MacArthur BART, and in being located in a less gentrified neighborhood. The one drawback in comparing it to the current space and The Omni is the lack of a big separate common area for events. It is _very_ similar to Noisebridge in almost every way. -- marc/juul

12 years, 4 months

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We have $1258.26 in the bank

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

To maintain a 500 balance and pay our ~1700 rent, we need ~$1000. If you haven't paid your dues, please do so, there are options on the right hand side of https://sudoroom.org // Matt

12 years, 4 months

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NymRights on WCBN Ann Arbor

by aestetix

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey everyone, I was interviewed on "Interactive Technologies" on Ann Arbor's 88.3 FM today about online identity issues and NymRights. It's a pretty basic introduction and addresses some of the complex issues we're looking at right now. Just wanted to share! http://it.sensoryresearch.net/thoughtconduit/archive?id=1711 Cheers, aestetix -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSntCfAAoJEOrRfDwkjbpT6ZwH/iDoQ6UvCDYhE5rlm+7hXwJC MH2nMEb24gMmQw8LlHRTPjRBL+vI5Kjav2Vggs+Dbjl9K/dWZi5pj4YSApbeLjHa ovvL/Q5eE/5n/hLCE/8PBcDiynYVytNbk9miO7FkfQklIyrIWuXqC/hM1mkxkyyQ pGKrIp3gafYNnaCJvntcvT6GoXYksBRkpq47iL8i4SucYMh7fQElDATQxNlfI3ri 4LuaMVrKBSuybcHX/soAeykFHMezNZjaU3h52baGYu/KwVsWtiy96sf1arSyd59s OHmatb9o3RO05QuoGbuR0FwWW0us2BEhKlINo1aWdWSHhYWf+LHx+iWMEy/As78= =6FoM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

12 years, 4 months

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"The Battle for Oscar Grant Plaza" Documentary Screening this Sunday, 3-5pm!

by Jenny Ryan

Heads up for a rad event this coming Sunday! Come by Sudo Room at 3pm for: Short documentary screening: “The Battle for Oscar Grant Plaza” by Jacob Crawford and co-produced by Dave Id, Indybay.org. The documentary shows how the City of Oakland and its Police tried to shut down the budding “Occupy Wall Street” movement, turning downtown Oakland into a teargas filled war zone and injuring numerous people. Police video obtained in discovery in the National Lawyers Guild’s successful lawsuit and interviews with activists and journalists about their experiences, tell the real story of the disastrous Fall 2011 police actions that pushed the troubled OPD to the brink of federal receivership. Documentary (in it’s current state) is 25 minutes and will start around 3:15. Expect light refreshments and intellectual discourse! We’re interested in sparking conversation around police accountability in the Oakland area and beyond. If you have any interest in direct involvement with OPD accountability (especially if you are a coder!), you won’t want to miss this! The producers and some plaintiffs (including Scott Olsen) will be present to answer any questions. Jacob Crawford is a long time Copwatcher based out of the Bay Area in California. He joined Berkeley Copwatch <http://www.berkeleycopwatch.org/>in 2000 and produced the first ever “in the streets” non-dramatized know your rights video “These Streets Are Watching”. He currently is running WeCopwatch.org <http://wecopwatch.org> with other Copwatchers and has been a contributor for CopBlock.org <http://copblock.org> for several years. Calendar event listing: https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/the-battle-for-oscar-grant-plaza-screening… Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 4 months

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Bay Area Community Exchange meeting tomorrow 8:00-9:30 in common area

by AnimationAmber .

Hi Sudo people! BACE (Bay Area Community Exchange) is having our monthly general planning meeting at Sudo Room tomorrow night, 8-9:30 PM in the common area. I know it overlaps with your guys' weekly meeting, but just wanted to post a reminder. BACE is a local timebank where we exchange services and goods for hours as our currency, valuing reciprocity over accumulation, credit, and debt. We also need tech help with our website, if anyone is looking for a non-hierarchical, people-centered, do-ocracy type of project to share their skills with. Thanks! -amber -- * Animator Mama You-Tube Channel <http://www.youtube.com/user/videocabulary/videos?view=0> * * Animator Mama on Tumblr <http://animatormama.tumblr.com/> * * animatormama.com <http://animatormama.com/> *

12 years, 4 months

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Possible new sudo space

by Hol Gaskill

>Or should we wear pistols in holsters and hope that visible deterrence is worth a damn against hardened criminals who might be cranked up on meth? open carry is now illegal in the state of california, but I hear more concealed carry permits are being issued by alameda county sheriffs due to reduced local PD staff, should you choose to go that route. also, reactionary ranting is usually not worth reading. might want to reconsider whether generating these text walls is the best use of your time as more and more people skip over them. i MEAN what i've SAID here btw ;) it really is baffling to me that anyone would use so much of their time this way. cheers, hol Dec 2, 2013 08:13:26 PM, g2g-public01(a)att.net wrote: > > ChrisBee: What you SAID was this: > > "Feel free to disagree with me, but when I hear/read discussions about this based around "how safe is so-and-so compared to such-and-such area" I think "Wow, if that isn't privilege/entitlement/self-absorption then I don't know what is." Not saying that any of you are, but I'm just saying." > > So if what you SAID is not what you MEANT, now's your chance to un-SAY it. > > As my friends around here know, my safety-sense is calibrated to err on the side of false-positives, and on that particular occasion I got a false-negative, with the result that I and the person I was with got held up at gunpoint. The gal who was physically assaulted and robbed of her tablet was sitting in front of DeLauer's, and three assailants were involved. The guy who got his windows smashed (twice) was parked outside SR. > > So: How much paranoia is justified, or should we get concealed-carry permits and shoot any random JoeBob who approaches us on the streets at night? Or should we wear pistols in holsters and hope that visible deterrence is worth a damn against hardened criminals who might be cranked up on meth? > > The fact that you've been robbed, you've had friends who've been robbed, and had a couple of friends die (presumably shot) (someone I knew also died from a gang shooting) should, if anything, disabuse you of the attitude that "being aware of your surroundings" is sufficient to avoid an early meet-up with the Grim Reaper. > > But instead you come up with this in your latest missive: "[don't'] assume everything is going to be fine if, say, you decide to send some drunk texts while walking through Ghost Town at 3 am." > > Excuse me but I've never been drunk in my life, and I don't even own a cellphone (I get all the surveillance I want for my taxpayer dollars, why pay another $600/year for even more?). The guy I was with wasn't drunk or texting either. The gal who got assaulted and robbed wasn't drunk; she was reading on her tablet, but it was at a bus stop in a brightly lit area with lots of people coming & going. The guy whose car windows got smashed: hmm, should his car have been more paranoid?, or should his car get a concealed-carry permit? > > In point of fact some parts of Oakland ARE safer than others. Look up the crime maps and see for yourself. Whether, on balance, SR should locate in whatever-neighborhood depends on a lot of things including affordable space and access to public transport, and I'm not opposed to taking calculated risks or making tradeoffs. But there's a world of difference between _that_ and a smug callous attitude toward other people's safety and other peoples' lives. > > As for keeping the personal attacks out of it, you bloody well fired the first shot, or rather, tossed a big honking hand-grenade of a personal attack with your line about "privilege/entitlement/self-absorption." So don't be surprised at the blowback. > > -G. > > > ===== > > > > On 13-12-02-Mon 7:17 PM, Chris Bee wrote: > > What I meant was that if you spend any amount of time in Oakland it behooves you to be aware of your surroundings and not assume everything is going to be fine if, say, you decide to send some drunk texts while walking through Ghost Town at 3 am. I realize that not every "I got robbed in Oakland" story starts like this but you'd be surprised at how many do. > > BTW I am not the douchebag you seem to think I am. I've been robbed (in Temescal no less), had close friends robbed, even had a couple friends die as a result of shit like this so it's something I'm pretty familiar with. I'm not saying what I'm saying lightly, I'm saying this because I don't want sudoers to think that one part of Oakland is necessarily safer or less safe than another part. So let's keep the personal attacks out of it, it's a shitty thing to go through but we shouldn't take shots at each other. > > -chrisbee > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote: > > > Re. Sonja: > > Exactly what I've done: not gone back to SudoRoom after having had a gun pointed at my guts right in the doorway. Chances are at least one person reading this is pleased with that outcome, but at least four I know aren't. > > Re. ChrisBee: > > Right, blame the fucking victims, three or four of us that I know of who've been robbed, assaulted, or had car windows smashed and stuff stolen coming & going from SR or parked nearby, and possibly one or two I missed. > > Let's see, where have we heard your line of bullshit before?... she shouldn't have been wearing those clothes either...? I take it you agree with that too. > > I'll quote you directly for what comes next, just so the context of my reply is clear: > > "Feel free to disagree with me, but when I hear/read discussions about this based around "how safe is so-and-so compared to such-and-such area" I think "Wow, if that isn't privilege/entitlement/self-absorption then I don't know what is." Not saying that any of you are, but I'm just saying." > > So it's "privilege/entitlement/self-absorption" to value being in a safe location where you're less likely to be subjected to violence on the street? I'm going to say something to you that I haven't said to anyone in a damn long time: Go fuck yourself. > > -G. > > > ===== > > > On 13-12-02-Mon 6:02 PM, Sonja Trauss wrote: > > Yeah but what if taking responsibility for your safety means not going where you've been robbed before? > > On Monday, December 2, 2013, Chris Bee wrote: > > (shakes head, sighs) > > I've said it before and I'll say it again...in most cases, putting the onus of personal safety on a neighborhood is totally missing the point that YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY, full stop. Saying that you are (relatively) more or less safe depending on where you are is...is...well, it's wrong thinking on so many levels that I don't even know where to begin. > > Feel free to disagree with me, but when I hear/read discussions about this based around "how safe is so-and-so compared to such-and-such area" I think "Wow, if that isn't privilege/entitlement/self-absorption then I don't know what is." Not saying that any of you are, but I'm just saying. I like and respect my sudo peoples...a lot. That's why I'm pointing this out. I don't want anyone to be lulled into a false sense of security/anxiety by thinking that just because you're in one area bad shit is less prone to happen to you, or vice versa. It's on all of us to be aware of what's going on around us and to be prepared to deal with whatever situations may come our way, alone or otherwise. Good Samaritans notwithstanding, the cops are...well, the odds of them being there when you "need" them (I personally don't) are next to nil, and they only seem to make things complicated after the fact. > > What we should be focused on is locating an affordable space that meets the needs of BAPS/sudo/CCL. > > Sorry if I seem a little impatient but I've seen too many important discussions get derailed like this, and right now I think this is pretty high on our list of immediate concerns. > > And again, If anyone wants to straighten me out on this issue I'm all ears/eyes. > > Respectfully, > > -chrisbee > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Sonja Trauss sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh man I'm I total idiot, I just realized where 8th and Alice is - I saw "8th st" and "near BART" and thought you were talking about w Oakland BART. > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Pete Forsyth wrote: > > Sonja, given that -- as you say -- West Oakland is "pretty mixed" racially and culturally, what is it that leads you to conclude that Amber was talking about black people, and commenting on race? > Pete > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Sonja Trauss sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Yeah you need to give black people more credit. Did you know, some of them like coffee shops also? some of them can read? Some of them have computers? Some of them might become sudo members? Black people are pretty similar to white people and like lots of the same things!!! Wow. > In any case w. O. Is pretty mixed. There are lots burners and anarchists there that would like sudo room too. My roommate Randall will be there every day if you move to 8th and Alice. > Listen if anyone on this list is actually worried about the harmful effects of gentrification, I'm happy to brainstorm how to accomplish these two specific goals: Under no circumstances should the west Oakland housing projects move or be converted. (This will not be a real concern for 25 years, but still) Make new building in w o very very easy. The main attractive feature of w O is cheapness of rent. We still have plenty of empty space. There is no reason that supply tightness should cause rents to rise for 50 more years SO LONG AS ANTI GENTRIFICATION concerns DONT PREVENT NEW BUILDING. > > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Pete Forsyth wrote: > > Everybody has different views on gentrification. But speaking for myself, the kind that bothers me is the high-security condos with on-site parking where rich people get cheap real estate and then have zero incentive or inclination to engage with their neighbors. They drive to work, drive to Whole Foods, and in between sit behind bars on their balconies while their neighbors push shopping carts by their fortresslike front doors to the recycling center. > Sudo Room *exists* to build community. It may not build the kind of community that everybody wants to participate in, but it does offer opportunities that don't exist absent a hacker space. It's hard for me to imagine Sudo Room doing damage to its neighborhood, and even if something unexpected happened, I think its community would act quickly to correct the problem. > Pete > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM, AnimationAmber . amberyadaanimation(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It should be noted that aiming for a space in a "less-gentrified" neighborhood does overlook the possibility that Sudo's presence would have a gentrifying effect. Thoughts? > -amber > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Marc Juul juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote: > > Matt, Jenny and myself went and looked at another space that could potentially be a new sudo space. > > We've started gathering information about it here: > > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice > > My personal feeling about the space is: > > This is an awesome space with lots of natural light. It addresses two of the major concerns raised about The Omni in being two blocks from BART in a neighborhood that seems/feels safer than the area around MacArthur BART, and in being located in a less gentrified neighborhood. The one drawback in comparing it to the current space and The Omni is the lack of a big separate common area for events. It is _very_ similar to Noisebridge in almost every way. > > > _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >sudo-discuss mailing list >sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >

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Learn To Solder at Oakland Library

by Mitch Altman

I'm giving a Learn To Solder workshop at the Oakland Public Library this Saturday 7-Dec. 2:30pm - 4:30pm. Lots of cool kits to choose from, make, and take home with you. FREE! Learn to solder! All ages. All welcome! Oakland Asian Library 388 9th Street Suite 190Oakland, CA 94607 Phone: (510) 238-3400 See map: Google Maps http://www.oaklandlibrary.org/events/asian-branch/teen-tech-learn-solder Mitch.

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total film DJ request: video of the bike taxi folks at sudoroom

by Romy Ilano

if there are any bored film people sitting around, it'd be so rad to see some kind of experimental video interviewing and filming the bike taxi union that hangs out at sudoroom. their mission, what they're into, and them riding around. i mean, i should probably start help making it but i'm just going to write this like a dj request list. =D

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blog post > noisebridge, sudoroom crew visit rpscollective for craft night

by Romy Ilano

you might have to go to the blog link to see the photos https://sudoroom.org/craft-night-with-hackerspace-nerds/ Craft Night with Hackerspace Nerds We were having a necessary meeting at SudoRoom this Sunday with lots of paperwork… there were people from the excellent SF hackerspace Noisebridge<http://www.noisebridge.net/> as well! this stuff is important, but people were starting to fade out fast. Or maybe it was just me. There are a lot of great things afoot, and I had spent far too long away from this place. The meeting was dragging on and on. People were talking in slow motion and we weren’t even drunk. They were doing the necessary leg work but i was antsy. We were not a very formal board of directors, lolling around in the pews and pushing through legalese. We kept interrupting people asking when we could do our first board meeting in a Korean bathhouse, all of us naked and eating group snacks. No go. “Say what, Rock Paper Scissors Collective <http://www.rpscollective.com/> down the street is having craft night for an hour or two. Let’s head over gang!” There are girls there! It’s a makerspace, not a hackerspace! And wow! This is what we did. Our little troop: [image: Matt]<http://www.miromi.com/webpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131202-214825.j…> Matt took over the button maker at RPS Collective. He has the inner sewing lady waiting to bust out! oh wait! it’s already out there! [image: Art]<http://www.miromi.com/webpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131202-214839.j…> Big piles of markers and paints and supplies during RPS Craft Night. Hackerspaces can be so electronic… it’s nice to touch tangible things [image: Making away]<http://www.miromi.com/webpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131202-214848.j…> Noisebridge and SudoRoom folks attack the RPS Collective sewing area [image: Noisebridge represent!]<http://www.miromi.com/webpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131202-214903.j…> I had no idea that fellow Sudoroom and Noisebridge hacker JC used to live in Tahoe. we’re planning our first return. He probably knows a lot more crazy people up there than I Do! [image: Noisebridge]<http://www.miromi.com/webpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131202-214912.j…> Go RPS Craft night go! [image: One]<http://www.miromi.com/webpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131202-214924.j…> Lots of hands making the work load light [image: cranberry sauce]<http://www.miromi.com/webpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131202-214935.j…> SudoRoom brought RPS Collective some homemade cranberry sauce. Thanks Matt! Awesome! [image: Noisebridge Garrett]<http://www.miromi.com/webpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131202-214945.j…> G from Noiesbridge talking about martial arts, politics and real estate development with the Oakland RPS Collective crew

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