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Noisebridge and sudoroom at the Aaron Swartz memorial hackathon

by Romy Snowyla

Eff speaking at the opening of the Aaron Swartz memorial hackathon at the beautiful internet archive Click to view interactively: http://360.io/uwb93P Captured with Yeah!

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Aaron Swartz Memorial Hackathon (TONIGHT-SUNDAY)

by Vicky Knox

I didn't see anything show up on this list, so here it is: TONIGHT: Internet Archives (until 10p) SATURDAY-SUNDAY: Noisebridge (11a-4p each day) For more deets, see the Noisebridge Wiki: <<< https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Worldwide_Aaron_Swartz_Memorial_Hackathon_… >>> For other more deets (such as the link to the shared pad), see: <<<http://aaronswartzhackathon.org/>>>

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"Made in China" Group Show

by Troy Massey

"You are the source of Freedom : the price of Freedom is awareness and action" Subject: Presented by Loakal at Ian Ross Gallery- Opens Friday! Reply-To: Loakal Gallery & Boutique <loakal(a)57-33.com> "Made in China" Presented by Loakal Opens November 8 View this email in your browser Made In China" Group Show Presented by Loakal Opening Reception: November 8, 7-10 PM @ Ian Ross Gallery (466 Brannan St., San Francisco.) The upcoming group exhibition, “Made in China,” presented by Loakal Gallery at Ian Ross Gallery, seeks to probe our society’s underlying assumptions regarding originality, intellectual property and the value of art. Curator Eddie Colla invited a group of established and emerging contemporary artists to create an original painting and send a photo of their work to a factory in China — a factory where reproductions of Monets and other masterworks are painted to be sold as kitschy home decorations in the West. The Chinese factory artists then reproduced the works based on the photographs and shipped them back to Ian Ross Gallery, where the original paintings and the Chinese “counterfeits” will be displayed side-by-side. The opening reception is free and open to the public. Many of the artists and the curator will be in attendance. RSVP on Facebook. Facebook Twitter Instagram Tumblr Pinterest Website Copyright © 2013 Loakal + fiftyseven-thirtythree, All rights reserved. You signed up for this email list to receive information about fiftyseven-thirtythree and Loakal Gallery & Boutique related news, events, and clothing deals. Our mailing address is: Loakal + fiftyseven-thirtythree 560 2nd St. Oakland, CA 94607 Add us to your address book unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences

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A "Jedi" can apologize for being wrong. The sith "dealing in absolutes"."

by spectral imix

A "Sith"-like attitude insists on an innate "goodness" and "badness" (or more appropriately "us-ness" and "them-ness") in everything. The "Jedi" understand that no object or action is intrinsically good or evil. Intention and effect matter, turning black and white into shades of gray. The fundamental difference between the sides is not "good" and "evil". (Everyone has the potential for both.) The real difference is between a desire to control one's environment for personal power and security, and the desire to serve the greater good of all. A "Sith" believes in him/herself, forming temporary alliances only for the purpose of gaining greater personal advantage. A "Jedi" seeks and fosters the good in everyone, risking and sacrificing personal safety and reputation to benefit the whole. Their actions may occasionally resemble each other but their motivations are very different. The "Jedi" mentality DOES have "absolutes" of a sort. The preservation of life (particularly intelligent life), freedom (physical and intellectual), justice (without regard to status) and the like are enduring values for "Jedi"-like people. But they understand that the universe is morally neutral, that often one value is pitted against another by the unscrupulous, and that sometimes the best that can be done is a moral compromise. The "Sith" prefer to concretize their "morality". Disloyalty to THIS leader is wrong. Partaking in THAT specific activity is evil. An uncensored discussion of social alternatives is morally decadent. Categorically, without exception, never mind the intent. A "virtuous" act is always "good". A troublemaker is always "bad". A "Jedi" can observe the ethical situation, note changes, and change his mind about a good idea implemented badly, or a disreputable strategy that actually produces good. A "Jedi" can apologize for being wrong. A "Sith" cannot afford to be inconsistent for fear of losing credibility. Any change in allegiance must be framed and propagandized to appear as part of the plan all along. The "Sith" is about appearances rather than reality. The world is never black and white, but the "Sith" pretends it is. That is what is meant by "dealing in absolutes"."

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Meeting Minutes: Successful Fundraiser. Officially Incorporated, Won Grant.

by Max Klein

If you remember after last week's meeting we were anxious because we were $800 behind on rent. Now we have $5500 and are officially a Public Benefit Nonprofit Corporation. Let us take a moment to meditate on this week and the efforts of our members. Minutes: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013-11-06

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Oakland is the WikiVoyage "Destination of the Month!"

by Pete Forsyth

Hey all, I just noticed that Oakland is the WikiVoyage "Destination of the Month" -- awesome! Might be a good time to make sure WikiVoyage's pages point to Oakland Wiki where appropriate -- or just generally celebrate, dance in the streets…ya know? https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page -Pete

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dark mail kickstarter

by Anthony Di Franco

This seems good to support: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ladar/lavabits-dark-mail-initiative "Along with preserving existing functionality, the team will build in support for the Dark Mail protocol. Dark Mail, a newly developed messaging protocol, is designed to provide end-to-end encryption of both the message itself and the email in transit. Because encryption will be integrated into the protocol itself, it will be invisible to the user. Dark Mail users will get the security of PGP without the cognitive burden; *if someone can use email today they will be able to use Dark Mail tomorrow*." *← Finally this* "The project will also include building, and releasing as F/OSS, the first Dark Mail compatible clients. We are planning to launch with clients for the desktop (Win, Mac, Lin), smartphones and tablets (iOS, Android)."

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Sudo Room wins $4700 grant from Southern Exposure!

by Jenny Ryan

Super stoked to announce that both Sudo Room AND the Public School have each won a $4700 grant from Southern Exposure, an excellent nonprofit supporting the arts in the Bay Area: *Southern Exposure is proud to announce the recipients of grants in Round 7 of our Alternative Exposure Grant Program. In this round, Southern Exposure is awarding $70,000 to 16 projects at levels ranging from $5,000 to $2,400. With major support from the Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts, Alternative Exposure supports the independent and self-organized work of artists and small groups that plays a critical and significant role in the San Francisco Bay Area arts community. In the seven years since launching Alternative Exposure, Southern Exposure has awarded $421,000 in direct funds to 120 Bay Area projects.(http://soex.org/artistsresources.html <http://soex.org/artistsresources.html>*) This is a nice bit of cash that will very nearly provide the 3-month rent buffer we endeavor to have as a foundation, though we still need to build up Rainy Day, maintenance and operations funds. This also gives us significantly more to work with should we choose to move into a larger space in the next couple of months. It would be great to reinitiate conversations and proposals toward a membership policy and long-term sustainability goals. Thanks to David Keenan for inspiring a down-to-the-wire grant-writing hackathon and making the process super fun and collaborative, and major props to Marc for excellent feedback and revisions. I'll write a blog post this weekend to publicly thank SOEX. And <3 to all y'all for making an awesome Sudo Room! <3 Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Party Final Take: $660 cash.

by Yardena Cohen

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Matthew Harbowy <hbergeronx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In the future, it might not be so wise to advertise the sale (future or > past) of alcohol in a public forum if you haven't obtained a permit via > http://www.abc.ca.gov/Forms/PDFSpc.html since the $1000 fine for holding an > unlicensed event would exceed any takings you might have had. > > This is the sort of accountability your board members should be watching > your back on, and the fact that none of your board-elect squelched or at > least turned down the gain on this despite the fact that they would be > personally liable for this, should be of particular concern, especially > since you have zero liability insurance. > > Not to spoil your fun or anything, but... is sudo room a frat house or an > adult endeavor? I realize this is the "Wild West" of Oakland, and all, and > the getting away with it quotient is high, but really? Hi Matthew, After reading this email I've nominated you to Sudoroom's board. Will you accept?

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"It Tastes Like Chicken" dep't: 3D-printed "phood"?

by GtwoG PublicOhOne

This might be of interest to biohackers and food hackers, and 3D printer hackers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24825582 "French physical chemist Herve This says every foodstuff is made up of a basic chemical mixture - and so it's possible to create nutritious dishes from powders, oils and liquids that contain the building-blocks of food, rather than conventional raw ingredients...." The video shows Professor This making up a fresh serving of something that could be cookie dough for Soylent Orange. At the end of the video, with a bit of garnish, it even looks like futuristic sculptureon the plate. No need for farm animals, no need for vegetables, no need for fruit, and fortunately, no need for eating worms. Professor This calls it "Note-By-Note cuisine" but I'd call it "phood." Whoever invents a 3-D printerfor using this stuff, like the food dispenser on Star Trek, is goingto earna fortune. "Burger, medium, with a pickle. Tea, Earl Gray, hot." Or at least, "Phood, orange with blue swirls, spicy." -G.

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[REMINDER] Legal Cafe Weds. 4:30!!

by Vicky Knox

[incorporation] [board] [501c*] [SELC] INCOMING TRANSMISSION: This is a reminder to join your fellow Sudo Room intergalactonauts at a free legal cafe with all of your questions regarding our impending doom/incorporation!!! (If you are not able to come, please reply to this thread with questions I can transmit through the darkness for you.) HOST: Sustainable Economies Law Center <http://theselc.org/> SPACE: LOL Hackerspace, 1234 23rd Avenue (23rd and International) TIME: 4:30-7:30p END TRANSMISSION [incorporation] [board] [501c*] [SELC]

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Fwd: Re: Sudo Room wins $4700 grant from Southern Exposure!

by Eddan Katz

That is so excellent. Fantastic job to the folks who worked on it. I'm sure I speak for others as well, We'll be grateful for this major step for a while to come. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Sudo Room wins $4700 grant from Southern Exposure! Date: 2013-11-06 08:49 From: David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> To: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> I am so, so, so, so happy for sudo and the public school. We worked our freaking asses off those last two days all the way down to the wire. I am super impressed by Jenny, Marc, Sudo, and all of us. We fucking rock. David On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com [8]> wrote: > Super stoked to announce that both Sudo Room AND the Public School > have each won a $4700 grant from Southern Exposure, an excellent > nonprofit supporting the arts in the Bay Area: > > Southern Exposure is proud to announce the recipients of grants in > Round 7 of our Alternative Exposure Grant Program. In this round, > Southern Exposure is awarding $70,000 to 16 projects at levels > ranging > from $5,000 to $2,400. With major support from the Andy Warhol > Foundation for the Visual Arts, Alternative Exposure supports the > independent and self-organized work of artists and small groups that > plays a critical and significant role in the San Francisco Bay Area > arts community. In the seven years since launching Alternative > Exposure, Southern Exposure has awarded $421,000 in direct funds to > 120 Bay Area projects. > (http://soex.org/artistsresources.html [1]) > > This is a nice bit of cash that will very nearly provide the 3-month > rent buffer we endeavor to have as a foundation, though we still need > to build up Rainy Day, maintenance and operations funds. This also > gives us significantly more to work with should we choose to move > into > a larger space in the next couple of months. > > It would be great to reinitiate conversations and proposals toward a > membership policy and long-term sustainability goals. > > Thanks to David Keenan for inspiring a down-to-the-wire grant-writing > hackathon and making the process super fun and collaborative, and > major props to Marc for excellent feedback and revisions. Ill write a > blog post this weekend to publicly thank SOEX. > > And <3 to all yall for making an awesome Sudo Room! > <3 > > Jenny > http://jennyryan.net [2] > http://thepyre.org [3] > http://thevirtualcampfire.org [4] > http://technomadic.tumblr.com [5] > > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." > -Laurie Anderson > > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of > defining it." > -Hannah Arendt > > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." > -Stéphane Mallarmé > ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [6] > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [7] Links: ------ [1] http://soex.org/artistsresources.html [2] http://jennyryan.net/ [3] http://thepyre.org/ [4] http://thevirtualcampfire.org/ [5] http://technomadic.tumblr.com/ [6] mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org [7] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [8] mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com

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Re: [sudo-discuss] there are no LPFM slots on the FM band in the bay area, period.

by Jake

>> Just put a big fucking antenna on the roof and start broadcasting, if >> you don't, i will, god damnit. >> >> Stop overthinking things and do it. > > Why? So you can inflict a $20,000 fine on Sudo Room as quickly as > humanly possible? it takes a long time and a lot of work and listeners before you even get the ten-day warning, let alone an unenforcable fine. Don't forget that Berkeley Liberation Radio has been broadcasting for almost ten years now, interrupted more often by their own failures than by two FCC raids where the FCC basically snatched their equipment and fled like cowards. No one at BLR has ever been successfully "fined", and even the NAL (Notice of Apparent Liability) filed against Stephen Dunifer of FRB before them has just sat uncollected, like almost all NALs against pirates, for twenty years now. Stephen's very public response to the Notice of Apparent Liability was "Apparently not." The FCC's fine enforcement mechanism is to threaten to revoke your stations lisence. This works when they fine lisenced broadcasters for the seven deadly words or whatever, but filed against an unlisenced person it's a joke. Witness the fine against Daniel Robert of Pirate Cat Radio, which is an example of a person who put his full name all over everything and even corresponded with the FCC in the mail, making it personal. They haven't even collected anything from him. here's the story of pirate cat's fine: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/10/fcc-fines-monkey-man-radio-pirat… The point is, if sudoroom decides as a group to broadcast a signal from the roof or wherever (we can stream over the internet you know) then sudoroom can decide for itself whether it wants to keep going after getting a "ten day notice to cease broadcasting" If that EVER happens. http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-264276A1.html and if a broadcast is not coming from the building where sudoroom is, then it is not even a matter for sudoroom to have to decide on. Sudoroom can continue to have an internet streaming radio station and leave it at that.

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Table at Oakland Nights Live?

by Jeremy Dalmas

Sudo-ers, I mailed this list a couple weeks ago, but wanted to ask again. For the next Oakland Nights Live, on the evening of November 9th, we are having a series of booths to visit rather than a proper stage show. There will be a variety artists, performers, and informers who will interact with a few audience members at a time. We would love to have 1 or 2 people from the Sudo room have a booth or do a demonstration if any of you are excited about it. I'd be happy to answer any questions, and I can give you more info to anyone who is interested. Thanks for any interest and thanks in general for sharing the space with us. -Jeremy

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Fwd: [Wikimedia-SF] Page created for Berkeley edit-a-thon, Nov. 16

by Marina Kukso

Hi everyone, Berkeley Wikipedia editathon on Nov 16: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Wikipedia:Meetup/Berkeley/2013/Nov16 ! Whether you've never contributed to Wikipedia before or you've been editing since ought four, you should come. - Marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle(a)kcoyle.net> Date: Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:56 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-SF] Page created for Berkeley edit-a-thon, Nov. 16 To: "wikimedia-sf(a)lists.wikimedia.org" <wikimedia-sf(a)lists.wikimedia.org> I now have a page for the upcoming edit-a-thon. It will look very similar to the page for the previous one (ok, I copied most of it). Please add any edits that occur to you. I will run down and take a picture of the South Branch since the one on the BPL page doesn't have rights info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Berkeley/2013/Nov16 I hope some folks can make it. Note that this branch has been newly renovated and includes the tool lending library, one of the few of its kind. It also is next door to the Wat Mongkolratanaram Buddhist temple (known for its Sunday brunch, and whose article needs citations). I'll keep hacking away at the page over the next few days. kc -- Karen Coyle kcoyle(a)kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf

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math and machine learning classes

by Mike Schachter

Hi sudoroom! A little while back I mentioned an interest in starting classes that work towards data literacy, and wanted to give an update with some ideas and plans, with the hope that people who are interested in helping out or already doing similar things would come out of the woodwork. First - I've heard about the morning math meetups through the list and think it sounds great. My partner and I want to teach a hands-on curriculum for "Math Literacy" to interested people of all educational backgrounds. It would include everything from arithmetic to algebra to geometry, trigonometry, and calculus. I'm hoping to even have a basic introduction to plotting functions and working with arrays using web-based python terminals. I want to find interested students and teachers, so if any of this appeals to you, please let me know! I'm going to make a trip out to sudoroom probably in two weeks, perhaps we could meet up and talk about it. I'll be at Noisebridge this Tuesday as well. Second - I'm going to restart machine learning classes at Noisebridge, and am also looking for interested students and teachers. The ML wiki page, along with a link to join the mailing list, is here: https://www.noisebridge.net/Machine_Learning See you soon, mike

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Makers row in Brooklyn - do we have one in Oakland?

by Ryan Bethencourt

Hi All, I thought you'd enjoy this fascinating documentary on Maker's Row in Brooklyn bringing back a manufacturing renaissance to Brooklyn. I'm wondering if we have anything similar here in Oakland? http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/29/5042118/small-empires-makers-row R -- Ryan Bethencourt http://www.litmususa.com/ http://berkeleybiolabs.com/ www.bamh1.com www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php

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EFF Speakeasy on Thursday

by Eddan Katz

> TO: funlist(a)eff.org [2] > SUBJECT: [FUNLIST] EFF SPEAKEASY ON THURSDAY > Funsters! EFF's biannual Bay Area members' Speakeasy is coming up on > Thursday, 11/7 from 6-8 PM! We're at Emperor Norton's Boozeland [3] > on > Turk and Larkin. We have the back half of the bar reserved, and Kurt > and Rainey will share a few remarks about NSA spying at 7 PM. > > It's already a big one. I hope to see you there! > https://eff.org/r.c6gQ [4] > +Aaron > > Hello! > > Join the Electronic Frontier Foundation staff for a drink at our fall > member meetup in San Francisco on Thursday, November 7th! Raise a > glass with the EFF activists, lawyers, and technologists working in > the trenches and connect with EFF members about protecting digital > innovation, privacy, and free expression. > > At 7 PM, EFF staffers will share brief remarks on our efforts to stop > unchecked NSA surveillance, and can answer other questions about > digital freedom issues worldwide. > > [5]Find us at Emperor Norton's Boozeland in the San Francisco > Tenderloin! It's just north of the Civic Center/UN Plaza BART stop. > This is a free gathering for members, donors, and guests. Space is > limited. Attendees must be 21 or older. No-host bar. > > Speakeasy: Bay Area > EFF Members-Only Happy Hour > Thursday, November 7th from 6-8 PM > > _See you there!_ > > Aaron Jue > EFF Membership Team > > Electronic Frontier Foundation, 815 Eddy Street, San Francisco, CA > 94109 USA > EFF appreciates your support and respects your privacy [6]. _______________________________________________ Funlist mailing list Links: ------ [2] mailto:funlist@eff.org [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton [4] https://eff.org/r.c6gQ [5] https://eff.org/r.c6gQ [6] https://www.eff.org/policy [7] https://mail1.eff.org/mailman/listinfo/funlist

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temporary email suspensions

by Eddan Katz

That having been said, I also would stand by Marc's actions. There should be some way to put a temporary suspension on an email address in the immediate term to stop a barrage of emails as a cooling off mechanism. I think it's worth acknowledging how thankless a job running a listserv can be and thank Marc for doing it for as long as he has, with very little help, and while being admirably responsive. I've never done that job myself, and don't envy the position. On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote: > I'll 4th & 5th that. > I was trying to direct Giovanni's enthusiasm to be most useful on the Sudo-radio list. I still think that would be the most appropriate move. > > It is in fact true that this is a huge and awesome open window in spectrum allocation and it would be a shame to miss it. How Giovanni has tried to go about convincing everyone of that has clearly been counter-productive. His promise to put together a brief note about how to register before Nov. 14 and what it takes to do that - would be very useful information. > > I dare say though that if annoying is a criteria for being banned on this list - as a subjective matter many would be on thin ice. (No offense. Myself included.) > > I think that ad hoc unilateral banning is an overextension of the individual power any Sudo-er should have. Something that was mentioned could justify removal from the Board. I would suggest we have more than one person with the power to ban people from our mailing list. And that those people be charged with doing do according to some predictable and ascertainable policy. > > > sent from eddan.com > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:47 AM, "Danny Spitzberg" <stationaery(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I wholeheartedly 2nd, 3rd the sentiment and suggestion to have a conversation (via email if not IRL) with Giovanni to tame his exuberance and use the list more judiciously. >> >> "Banning" without first taking initiative to educate and include in understanding expecte practices is straight-up draconian -- eliminating not solving the problem. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Banning someone for being annoying is something you guys will probably have to do often and you should definitely not do it. >> >> >> As far as I can tell, what makes NB dis functional is their commitment to come one come all. "All" is not a great group, necessarily. If you are trying to build a club that is self-governing, it has to have people in it whose judgment you trust. There's nothing wrong with that I think. >> >> On Thursday, October 31, 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote: >> >> IMHO that seems excessively harsh. Banning someone from the list is similar enough to banning them from the space, that it seems to me such things entail a collective action by the community rather than an administrative action or unilateral action by e.g. a list admin or someone with keys to the door. Spambots and overt criminals are one thing, but people who are merely annoying in some way are another. >> >> Really: With all the talk about anarcho-this and collectivist-that and consensus-the-other-thing, seems to me that unilaterally banning someone for being merely annoying is a pretty major contradiction to core principles. >> >> If you or someone else wants to ban someone from the list or the space, aside from emergencies such as bots and criminals, there are dispute-resolution processes in place for that. >> >> So I'm going to stick my neck out and ask that you reinstate him on the list, and initiate the use of whatever collective processes exist for resolving the issues you have with him. >> >> -G >> >> >> ===== >> >> >> On 13-10-31-Thu 2:54 AM, Marc Juul wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:24 AM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote: >>> >>> What happened? I thought the "john re" address had been captured or spoofed by a spammer, but "giovanni_re" was a legit user, most recently discussing the FCC application. Did the _giovanni_re" identity turn out to be some kind of wolf in sheep's clothing? -G >>> >>> He was banned for spamming the list about the FCC thing. Nine emails in nine different threads over the course of a few hours about a project that he has stated that he himself is not willing to work on. That is not reasonable. He also showed up for the sudo room and counter culture labs meetings and took an unreasonable amount of the community's time trying to push this project onto others. It appears that he has been doing similar things at noisebridge and other tech groups in the bay area. >>> >>> In addition: Starting and running an LPFM station is no minor undertaking, and Giovanni has continued his attempts to push this on people even in the face of little interest. This might have all been fine if he was actually spearheading the project, but he is not. >>> >>> -- >>> Marc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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Re: [sudo-discuss] cargo tricycle & burley bike trailer on CL

by Eddan Katz

Could this proposed list be more broadly a community marketplace, that allows people to offer their goods or services specifically to the sub-section of Sudo folks opt-in interested? I would imagine that such an exchange would also encourage barter of goods and services within the community. In the long term, perhaps an alternative commodity exchange could be supported. Chris B - are you volunteering to manage the list? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] cargo tricycle & burley bike trailer on CL Date: 2013-11-04 17:17 From: Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> To: Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com [8]> wrote: > This kind of information on craigslist finds has popped up from time > to time in the contexts of other discussions and projects but if its > going to be broadcast regularly on its own merits it may be better to > establish a specific list for the purpose to make opting in / out as > straightforward as possible. I agree. I dont think interesting craigslist finds belong on the discuss list, but Ill be happy to create a new list if youre interested Chris? -- Marc/Juul > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Dick Wolf <hotelcompany(a)gmail.com > [5]> wrote: > >> Saw a couple of items I thought Id share on here... >> >> Industrial tricycle for $495 in Berkeley, listed 11-04 - >> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bid/4171311031.html [1] >> >> Burley bike trailer for $25 in Brentwood, relisted 11-04 - >> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4157637465.html [2] >> >> If its okay with everyone here Ill post interesting CL items I come >> across on the list. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris B >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [3] >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [4] > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [6] > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [7] Links: ------ [1] http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bid/4171311031.html [2] http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4157637465.html [3] mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org [4] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [5] mailto:hotelcompany@gmail.com [6] mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org [7] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [8] mailto:di.franco@gmail.com

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Another CL bike

by Dick Wolf

1989 Specialized Rock Combo - very rare, only 500 of these were made...definitely a steal @ $225 - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4157461743.html (listed 10-28) -Chris

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cargo tricycle & burley bike trailer on CL

by Dick Wolf

Saw a couple of items I thought I'd share on here... Industrial tricycle for $495 in Berkeley, listed 11-04 - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bid/4171311031.html Burley bike trailer for $25 in Brentwood, relisted 11-04 - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4157637465.html If it's okay with everyone here I'll post interesting CL items I come across on the list. Cheers, Chris B

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Party Final Take: $660 cash.

by Liberty Madison

+1 Thanks guys!! Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note™, an AT&T LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Party Final Take: $660 cash. From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> CC: Re: [sudo-discuss] Party Final Take: $660 cash. Thanks so much Matt, Liberty, Chris, Troy & everyone else who did afterparty cleanup! The space looks amazing! _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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Fwd: [!SUDO-INFO!] hosting benefit for legal fund?

by Marc Juul

What do you all think? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Nevada M.* Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013 Subject: [!SUDO-INFO!] hosting benefit for legal fund? To: "info(a)sudoroom.org" <info(a)sudoroom.org> HI there, I'm one of the folks organizing support for the two people who are facing felony charges after the Trayvon Martin demonstrations this summer. We're looking for venue where we might be able to host a benefit dinner + movie showing, and somebody mentioned that I should contact the Sudo Room because they thought you all might be down. Is that something that you all might be willing to host? We're putting together this effort on pretty short notice, and we're hoping to have the event on the 15th of this month, but if that date won't work for you all we'd definitely love to talk about other dates, too! Thanks very much, Nevada

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giovanni re / john regan exposed

by Jake

amazing! thanks to yar for finding this. who knew? http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2009-April/004725.html congratulations to sudoroom for banning him first.

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