Hey everyone, a few people are going to meet up on Wednesday around 6pm at
sudoroom to talk about math literacy stuff! Please stop over if you're
interested, or another time in the future if you're not available.
mike
Greetings,
I'm curious, but would not this post have been more appropriate for the
sudo-discuss list? I assume you may not be aware of it.
As for your specific point about the American Civil War being about states'
rights, that just makes me say hummmm... :-\
I'm going to do the Fanonian thing and not shout, since I'm too tired for
that anymore, but I will just add that in the opinion of a lot of
historians, some of them Anarchists, the "battle for power" between U.S.
states and the Federal government is simply that, a battle for power, but
it doesn't tell you anything about why the states want that power. It
doesn't tell you anything about the motivating factors behind such a
long-standing struggle, which, if you're unfamiliar with U.S. history,
could lead you to the erroneous conclusion that it's a neutral "freedom"
thing. It's not. I think you already know this, but your phrasing triggered
my White Supremacy detector, so I had to respond. :-)
Oh, and since I've now delurked and am posting on this discuss list, I'll
just say that I live in Oakland but haven't as yet made it around to the
sudo room in person (I'm hoping to change that in the upcoming year).
Art McGee
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:50 AM, aestetix <aestetix(a)aestetix.com> wrote:
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> I've been lurking for a while, but this caught my attention.
> Especially given that I recently watched the musical 1776.
>
> IMHO, we're at a turning point in history. I spent part of this
> morning watching the testimony on healthcare.gov, and seeing the
> interplay of lawyers and technologists. We seem to be sandwiched
> between two paradigms: the NSA/Omnicorp merger from Prism and other
> Snowden leaks, and totally unrealistic valuations of companies like
> Snapchat, which apparently just turned down a $3 billion cash
> acquisition offer from Facebook. That spells out a damned if you do,
> damned if you don't scenario.
>
> The one common theme we've seen through the history of the US is the
> battle for power between State and Federal governments. This is what
> the Civil War was *really* about, why laws like the Civil Rights Act
> of 1965 are so important, and why the most recent government shut-down
> happened. And inherent to this power battle, for which there is no
> "better" side, is the will of the people. How do we overcome the
> tragedy of the commons enough to build a system that generally, kind
> of sort of works?
>
> It's hard to practice what one preaches if there's no cost. For
> example, it's easy to use Google/etc, until the government subpoenas
> your email and search history and uses that as evidence (hidden via
> State Secrets) to throw you in jail. I speak on this with several
> friends who are either in jail or dead because of bad laws, and many
> more who have been harassed, detained, in most cases for doing nothing
> more than dissenting.
>
> This is why I agree strongly with Eddan about the notion of
> neutrality. I haven't kept up with sudo room as much lately, partly
> because I don't have the time/energy to engage in some of the
> transitions that were going on. I'm beginning to get to a point where
> I can re-engage with people working on projects tackling these kinds
> of issues. I suppose we shall see what happens.
>
> Back into the woodwork,
> aestetix
>
> - ---
>
> I've often thought of Sudo Room a little bit like the District of
> Columbia. and Rachel's subject for her email reminded me of that.
>
> It is often forgotten that there was a first constitution of the
> United States after Independence before the one that people call the
> Constitution. It was called the Confederacy of States. The nation's
> capital was in Philadelphia and through a series of events ended up
> moving to a newly formed neutral district - that we all know now as DC.
>
> It wasn't just a series of events, but a structural flaw in the
> Confederacy that doomed itself. As James Madison wrote in Federalist
> 43, "We have seen the inconvenience of this omission, and the
> assumption of power into which Congress have been led by it. With
> great propriety, therefore, has the new system supplied the defect.
> The general precaution, that no new States shall be formed, without
> the concurrence of the federal authority, and that of the States
> concerned, is consonant to the principles which ought to govern such
> transactions."
>
> As population grew and the country was further colonized by the
> European settlers, the creation of new states turned into a disuniting
> disaster. Different coalitions of states banded together to promote
> their collective interest at the expense of others. Those states
> excluded formed their own alliances and there were many cries of
> treason thrown around back and forth. Each cluster thought of
> themselves as the "us" and the others as the "them" until the "them"
> became the "us" and the "us" was "them". And so on.
>
> So while New York, New Jersey, Virginia, Maryland - all wanted the new
> federal seat of power in their states, a deal was struck to create a
> district that didn't belong to any particular state. They all wanted
> to have the center of the nation's power in their territories. And
> this is how we got in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution, the
> provision saying:
>
> "To exercise exclusive legislation, in all cases whatsoever, over such
> district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of
> particular States and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of
> the government of the United States; and to exercise like authority
> over all places purchased by the consent of the legislatures of the
> States in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts,
> magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings."
>
> I'm not sure we need forts and magazines and arsenals and such, but I
> still think we need a neutral center so that no particular cluster
> confuses themselves as being what constitutes Sudo Room. Only when the
> country adopted a political structure that transformed the "us" and
> "them" into we - did the agreement amongst them create stability and
> mutual respect that made them united states.
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https://www.wm.com/myaccount/
account | amt
00012-86938-43003 | Amount: $224.28
00012-87014-63003 | Amount: $71.80
Total paid: $296.08
Confirmation Number: 69784810329
As I mentioned to some of you, I've paid for combined garbage and recycling
for SUDO and BAPS from 9/15 til now.
Basically I consider this my membership dues to each respective group for
the past three months - essentially, ~$50/group/mo since Sept. or however
that works out.
I thought just paying this for SUDO and BAPS might kill two birds with one
stone dues-wise, but going forward it's obviously way less confusing to
have SUDO to take over the wm.com account and bill BAPS, and I'll just pay
dues to each group like everyone else...
Re: the wm.com login, I sent Matt this info a while ago, but at this point
I'd like to change out the bound email address from my personal email to a
generic sudoroom email (or at any rate, some other email) that sudo and
baps can both check.
Can someone volunteer a sudoroom or other email SUDO and BAPS can share for
this purpose?
Thanks,
David
Hello sudolings,
Well, I don't know about you but I've been really anxious and tense lately
about approving the Board. I've been hearing some closed door discussions
about who should or shouldn't be on Board and it's been stressing me out.
BUT there's no rush *we still have 82 days* to elect our Board.
It's not the sudo spirit to make decisions under stress and possibly in a
way that will split the community. I have faith that with more time this
will ease. The huge irony is that everything I hear behind closed doors is
the same. If you could see this from "God-mode", there wouldn't be any
conflicts. And we have the luxury of being sudo-humans that don't get mired
and stuck in that old-model politicking. We are deeply-introspective,
ego-dissolvers, and cosmic-harmonizers.
So here's the proposal: every body bring* 3 pieces of fruit* tomorrow to
the meeting and somebody bring a juicer. And when it comes time to approve
the board instead we will table it for a week and will just juice the juice
20 minutes.
What do you think?
Juicily yours and without confusion
Notconfusing aka Max Klein
+17074787023
Or, alternatively as suggested last night, Board of Those With Little Power
and Great Responsibility (or something to that effect :)
The following is a list of those who've accepted nomination to the board,
and those who've been nominated but have yet to accept or decline:
- Accepted: Max, Jenny, Naomi, Anca, Hol, Vicky [tentative], Marc, Matt,
Luciano, Troy
- Nominated: Rhodey, Marina, Liberty [tentative accept], JC, Len, Romy,
Ryan B, Julio, Vian, Shake, Mitch, Brendan, Morten, Faust
Please reply to this thread publicly or privately if you've been nominated
but have yet to accept or decline.
*At next week's meeting, we will go through and consent on each nominee.
Those participating via the mailing list have one week to block any of the
current nominations.*
What's required of a board member?
- the risks, not many risks if you are not paid
- the only thing we have to worry about is if sudo room doesn't pay
taxes then the treasurer will be liable for taxes
- also board has responsibility to send in a document once a year to
sacramento
- not liable if sudo room goes into debt (except treasurer)
<3
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
learn about the ongoing plan to "develop" latin america for the benefit of
the wealthy at the expense of the people and the environment:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:31:31 -0800
From: Sakura Saunders <sakura.saunders(a)gmail.com>
Subject: THIS THURS: Beehive Collective presents their new mural
"Mesoamerica Resiste!"
WHAT: "Mesoamérica Resiste!" graphic story-telling about resistance to neo-colonialism and mega-projects in Mexico and Central America
WHEN: Thurs, Nov. 14 6:30pm
WHERE: 2135 Broadway, downtown Oakland
WHO: Beehive Design Collective: beehivecollective.org
MESOAMÉRICA RESISTE is the long awaited final instalment in the Beehive’s graphic trilogy about globalization in the Americas! This collaboratively produced educational
illustration was created through an intensive process of grassroots research that started in 2004, when an initial team from the US, Canada, and Mexico traveled together from
Mexico to Panama to meet with communities organizing against the mega-infrastructure projects of a regional integration plan then known as Plan Puebla Panama.
9 years in the making, the Mesoamérica Resiste graphic reflects the Beehive’s efforts to document and share diverse stories of communities defending their sovereignty and
building alternatives to top-down development plans - especially organizing led by Indigenous peoples, who have fought back against colonialism and genocide for centuries.
The Beehive Design Collective is a wildly-motivated, all volunteer, activist-art collective dedicated to “cross-pollinating the grassroots” by creating collaborative,
anti-copyright images for use as educational and organizing tools. We work anonymously as word-to-image translators of complex global stories, gathered and shared through first
hand conversations with affected communities.
Dear all sudo room,
I thank you warmly for the availability given in my comparisons,
for their kindness and for taking grnade hospitality and a great sense of
community.
I spent the beautiful day by sudo room.
We expect in Italy.
My email is: UTOPIARACANATI(a)GMAIL.COM
SKYPE: UTOPIA.RACANATI
CELL. (EUROPEAN) 0039 3405476497
FACEBOOK: SERGIO Racanati
(The icond ADI is Facebbok A SCULPTURE MADE OF MANY COLORED WITH A FOUNTAIN
LED).
SEE YOU SOON
WITH LOVE
Sergio.
(Also posted to Noisebridge. Skip if you are experiencing deja-vu.)
Hello,
Right now, I'm doing research for a specialized app to let consumers
validate products that can be used to treat insomnia. Specifically, I'm
working on a smartphone app that can act like a light detector for light in
a narrow band around 470 nanometers. This is the frequency that has been
shown to suppress melatonin secretion by the pineal gland.
There are specialty products for avoiding late night 470 nanometer light
exposure (light bulbs, screen overlays, glasses) but these are often very
overpriced, and there is no convenient way to validate them. There are also
"ordinary" products that serve the same purpose, but there is no good way
for people to accurately test them. Currently, people can use a CD or DVD
as an ad-hoc diffraction grating and look at the resulting spectrum, but
even this isn't quite good enough. I've bought a narrow bandpass filter for
470nm light, and even products that have a spectrum that "looks good" (very
little blue) can have hot-spots that leak large amounts of 470nm light, and
it doesn't take much to suppress melatonin. (As low as 0.5 lux for
prolonged exposures.)
Looking generally at spectral response curves for digital cameras, it
should be possible to "synthesize" a narrow band detector by taking the
blue channel response and subtracting the red channel value.
http://www.maxmax.com/images/Cameras/Technical/NikonD200_SpectralResponse.j…
This should effectively produce a "synthetic" instrument that has a
spectral response curve that would be the camera's blue response, minus its
red response. Even more helpful, the user should be able to view a
synthesized narrowband image of the product, to be able to spot leaks and
hot spots.
What I need: I would like help in scientifically measuring the spectral
response curve of the "synthetic instrument." I already have a (tiny) 470nm
filter from Thorlabs, and I'm already aware of Public Lab's DIY
spectroscope. I would like to use more accurate equipment, however. It is
important that I can provide accurate information about the performance of
the app and use rigorous procedures for measurement so that users know they
can rely on the instrument.
Does anyone have the expertise and access to equipment to help me out?
--SCZ
--
There's neither heaven nor hell,
save what we grant ourselves.
There's neither fairness nor justice,
save what we grant each other.
hey all,
do any of you know of any useful tools for facilitating a civic debate
(something like a presidential debate) online?
http://backchan.nl/ would be good for submitting q's...but backchan.nl +
google hangouts seems...not the best? any tips would be helpful.
- marina
just a reminder.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Subject: [sudo-discuss] [consensus] Nominations for Board of Directors
To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
Or, alternatively as suggested last night, Board of Those With Little Power
and Great Responsibility (or something to that effect :)
The following is a list of those who've accepted nomination to the board,
and those who've been nominated but have yet to accept or decline:
- Accepted: Max, Jenny, Naomi, Anca, Hol, Vicky [tentative], Marc, Matt,
Luciano, Troy
- Nominated: Rhodey, Marina, Liberty [tentative accept], JC, Len, Romy,
Ryan B, Julio, Vian, Shake, Mitch, Brendan, Morten, Faust
Please reply to this thread publicly or privately if you've been nominated
but have yet to accept or decline.
*At next week's meeting, we will go through and consent on each nominee.
Those participating via the mailing list have one week to block any of the
current nominations.*
What's required of a board member?
- the risks, not many risks if you are not paid
- the only thing we have to worry about is if sudo room doesn't pay
taxes then the treasurer will be liable for taxes
- also board has responsibility to send in a document once a year to
sacramento
- not liable if sudo room goes into debt (except treasurer)
<3
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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not sure if this is the right list for this, but thought it should be
forwarded. SELC as you guys know is awesome, they've helped us out at Bay
Area Community Exchange as well.
thanks!
-amber
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From: Janelle Orsi <janelle.orsi(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Subject: A very very quick favor for Janelle. Thaaaank youuu so much in
advance!
To: Janelle Orsi <janelle.selc(a)gmail.com>
Hi Friends,
The Sustainable Economies Law Center <http://theselc.org/> is participating
in one of those fundraising campaigns where we'll get $20,000 from
Sungevity<http://www.sungevity.org/gives-back> if
we can get enough people to vote for us. I don't love this style of
fundraising, but I'm highly motivated by this one. The $20,000 will
determine whether or not we get to keep my wonderful coworker, Caroline
Lee, at SELC. She just graduated from law school and she is brilliant. If
she stays at SELC, she'll be developing model legal structures for
cooperatively-owned and community-owned renewable energy projects. If you
can support this by voting, I'd be so grateful!
*It takes 10 seconds to vote. Click
here: http://www.sungevity.org/gives-back
<http://www.sungevity.org/gives-back>*
FYI, you need to enter your email address to vote, but if you'd rather not
be on Sungevity's email list, you can always click "unsubscribe" in any
email they send you. I read their "terms and conditions" to make sure. :o)
Thank you so much!
Janelle Orsi
--
*Animator Mama You-Tube Channel
<http://www.youtube.com/user/videocabulary/videos?view=0>*
*Animator Mama on Tumblr <http://animatormama.tumblr.com/>*
Hey everyone!
I would like to improve the user experience of our Wordpress and Wiki. I'm
particularly interested in the latter, and making it more intuitively
structured, poetic (in the literary discourse sense of the word (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetics)), and UPDATED! I'm free to work on
it either Tuesday or Wednesday, daytime, at SR. (I'd also be into working
in the evening, but only if I can get a ride in a car, as I try to
absolutely avoid biking in the dark with my laptop.)
If you're interested in joining, please respond to the list with preferred
days/times.
ykciV
Because inquiring minds want to know.
> From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] San Leandro Meet the CIO event report-back
> Date: November 11, 2013 12:17:55 PM PST
>
> hey j.
> i just got a link from someone for my talk at the San Leandro CIO event.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZwlg9TAZ8o&feature=share&list=SP59j6gQK6OaB…
>
hooray!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Love <john(a)curiousjohn.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Subject: [bayareahackerspaces-discuss] Oops! Correct Link Re: New
Hackerspace Forming In San Francisco!
To: bayareahackerspaces-discuss(a)lists.riseup.net
https://github.com/wallacemax/sfhackerspace/blob/master/README.md
Sorry about that.
John Love <john(a)curiousjohn.com>
November 11, 2013 at 1:55 AM
There's a meeting tomorrow/Tuesday November 12th 7pm at GitHub HQ 3.0.
http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Bay_Area_Consortium_of_Hackerspaces
I'd go but I'm on the east coats. If someone attends could you report back?
Stay curious!
@curiousjohn
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-crowd
As Vicky has already mentioned - the Legal Café that the Sustainable Economies Law Center hosted at LOLSpace was super-helpful for all of us who went.
I had the good fortune of talking to Sushil Jacob of the EBCLC about the cooperative corporations he's been working on creating within the Green Collar economy initiative he's helping lead. More on that later.
I also got to talk to Caroline Lee of SELC, who's a recent Berkeley Law grad who has been doing research on the JOBS Act crowdfunding provisions. She recently wrote about it on Shareable for those interested in more detailed information - http://www.shareable.net/blog/investment-crowdfunding-poised-to-take-a-gian….
I also learned of a the crucial Crowdfunding intermediary process going on at FINRA (Financial Industry Regulation Authority). Their portal for further information is at http://www.finra.org/Industry/Issues/Crowdfunding/ - and there's even a short form to send FINRA for those entities interested in being registered as crowdfunding intermediaries. http://www.finra.org/Industry/Issues/Crowdfunding/. I am planning on filling this out soon and sending it in case anyone else is interested in working on that. There is also a public comments period until Feb. 3, 2014 (all crowdfunding intermediaries must be registered with them). The request for comments is at http://www.finra.org/Industry/Regulation/Notices/2013/P370744; and unfortunately means going through another ~600 page document, which I have only started to do.
If anyone is interested in further discussing this and all things related to crowdfunding, I will be moving this thread over to the Sudo-Crowd list. http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-crowd. There are some people outside of Sudo Room interested in participating in the coordination of these public comments and applications and so I'd rather have the discussion there separate from this list.
I think that the combination of SEC comments, FINRA comments, and the SASB comments I mentioned earlier on reporting requirements for sustainability accounting really covers all the issues that need to be taken into account at this point to understand what a Crowdfunding platform might have to deal with.
So please join the list.
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-crowd
I'll be putting together more organized wiki pages with info on this and where people could collaboratively put these comments together. The scratch pages I had up somehow got deleted.
sent from eddan.com
anyone out there expert at preserving electronicrecords so that they are
official (that is, admissible) evidence? please get in touch with me. i
am facing having to learn it otherwise. it will make all the difference.
get in touch for details.
--
*Be seeing you.*
Eff speaking at the opening of the Aaron Swartz memorial hackathon at the beautiful internet archive
Click to view interactively: http://360.io/uwb93P
Captured with
Yeah!
A "Sith"-like attitude insists on an innate "goodness" and "badness" (or more appropriately "us-ness" and "them-ness") in everything. The "Jedi" understand that no object or action is intrinsically good or evil. Intention and effect matter, turning black and white into shades of gray. The fundamental difference between the sides is not "good" and "evil". (Everyone has the potential for both.) The real difference is between a desire to control one's environment for personal power and security, and the desire to serve the greater good of all. A "Sith" believes in him/herself, forming temporary alliances only for the purpose of gaining greater personal advantage. A "Jedi" seeks and fosters the good in everyone, risking and sacrificing personal safety and reputation to benefit the whole. Their actions may occasionally resemble each other but their motivations are very different.
The "Jedi" mentality DOES have "absolutes" of a sort. The preservation of life (particularly intelligent life), freedom (physical and intellectual), justice (without regard to status) and the like are enduring values for "Jedi"-like people. But they understand that the universe is morally neutral, that often one value is pitted against another by the unscrupulous, and that sometimes the best that can be done is a moral compromise.
The "Sith" prefer to concretize their "morality". Disloyalty to THIS leader is wrong. Partaking in THAT specific activity is evil. An uncensored discussion of social alternatives is morally decadent. Categorically, without exception, never mind the intent. A "virtuous" act is always "good". A troublemaker is always "bad".
A "Jedi" can observe the ethical situation, note changes, and change his mind about a good idea implemented badly, or a disreputable strategy that actually produces good. A "Jedi" can apologize for being wrong. A "Sith" cannot afford to be inconsistent for fear of losing credibility. Any change in allegiance must be framed and propagandized to appear as part of the plan all along. The "Sith" is about appearances rather than reality. The world is never black and white, but the "Sith" pretends it is. That is what is meant by "dealing in absolutes"."
If you remember after last week's meeting we were anxious because we were
$800 behind on rent. Now we have $5500 and are officially a Public Benefit
Nonprofit Corporation.
Let us take a moment to meditate on this week and the efforts of our
members.
Minutes: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013-11-06
Hey all, I just noticed that Oakland is the WikiVoyage "Destination of the
Month" -- awesome!
Might be a good time to make sure WikiVoyage's pages point to Oakland Wiki
where appropriate -- or just generally celebrate, dance in the streets…ya
know?
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
-Pete