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the internet must go / film on open net neutrality

by Romy Ilano

http://www.theinternetmustgo.com/directorsnote/ This is very relevant to SudoRoom and would be great for a screening, right? the director Gena K. is also a really really great human being. <3

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My computer was PC Mag editors choice 2005

by Sonja Trauss

I have a Motion Computing LE1600 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1817311,00.asp http://www.motioncomputing.com/support/support_legacy_specs.asp Get in the time machine. What should I go - I really like this computer. It's unusual, the stylus interface has been really useful in the past. As expected, 8 years on, it's almost unusable, but in a lot of ways it's a really great machine!! What should I do with this thing? Am I blinded by sentimental attachment? Can I replace the guts? I have … [View More]

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Fwd: [spaghettinight] [ot] people's community market

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, my friend david has an excellent suggestion regarding the people's community market. i vote we join forces :) please see below. - marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Wild <davidnorbertwild(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM Subject: [spaghettinight] [ot] people's community market To: "spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net" <spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net> Hi all, I'm attending an info session this Wednesday to learn more about the … [View More]

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Crypto Class email list

by Gregg Horton

Join up if you're interested! http://groups.google.com/d/forum/sudo-crypto-class

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Rants

by Romy Ilano

Regarding negativity... At various hackerspaces I've been to I've had people abruptly come up to me and rant about their left wing political cause or gender issues or belief about Gmo food or political party This is something I do too. I'm becoming more mindful but it's some,thing to be aware of wig regard to welcoming minorities etc Getting lectured by a fatherly left wing guy is a common trope for me,... Sometimes these speeches rub me as paternal and cult like Peace out and hope everyone … [View More]

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jake's idea for sudoroom membership structure

by Jake

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 i confess i have no idea how to properly edit the membership wiki to add my ideas. So i will just type them here, and maybe someone can help me put them into the wiki properly. Sudo room/membership Do we have it? I think sudoroom does not currently have a membership structure in place. We are currently existing in a (most of the time) benevolent anarchy, resulting from equal parts luck, hard work by caring people, and security by obscurity.… [View More] I think we SHOULD have membership, which is clearly defined and binary (either you are a member in good standing, or a nonmember for whatever reason). There should be a list of members which can be publicly accessed, with enough information about each member that they can be identified by any member (a description or picture provided by the member themselves) since we don't all "know" each other. I think membership should be something that is in exchange for ONGOING contribution to the community, as defined (continually) by the membership, on a person by person basis. For example, $10 per month might be accepted by one person as sufficient, but another person might be required to pay $40 per month. Or the group can decide that a persons offer to "clear and sweep the floor once a week" is sufficient. Also the community should be able to refuse someone's membership, even if they are a current member who has been making their required contribution. Also the community should be able to change the requirement from a person based on information from them or anyone, to a higher or lower or different requirement. The community should be able to declare that a person has not fulfilled their requirement and is, until they return to that requirement, temporarily not a member. Does it [membership] confer special privelages? I think that membership should confer special privelages including access to the space even if it is closed, for any community-approved uses. A member can be there when no one else is there if they want to be. Also while anyone can participate in discussions at meetings, only members can vote (or block consensus items). I think a member should be able to "sponsor" a nonmember (or multiple of them) WHILE they are present in the space. This way nonmembers can use the space any time a member who supports them is present, which should be easy for nonmembers who use the space properly in a cooperative way. And for all nonmembers wanting to use the space, their sponsor can help them use the space properly. I think that nonmembers should be nominally granted up to 24 added-up hours of access to the space without a specific sponsor. This part is subtle and I urge people to think about the total effect of this "pseudo policy" before objecting. If a nonmember behaves badly before they have used up 24 hours they can be asked to leave by a member, of course. And if a nonmember behaves well it is likely that no one will even point out when their "24 hours" appears to have expired. are there expectations of members, do they have responsibilities? I think that all members should promise not to leave the space open without a member present. This means that when an awesome nonmember is working on a project and you're the last member and you want to leave, you have to decide between staying to help them or asking them to return when the space is open. It is also a good time to remind them that by contributing in a community-approved way, they can have 24-7 access. One reason for members making this promise to each other is because members have accountability to one another, and were approved at a meeting, and can be contacted with questions by other members, and can be trusted. However that trust does not extend to strangers and we must respect the process of meetings and accountability when we are not present to act as an advocate or translator for a nonmember we want to support. Some practical reasons for not allowing nonmembers in the space alone include security of property and materials, projects and tools. But also, the organization of the space and functionality of it is tied to human effort to make it a usable space. People who are members are contributors to the space in one way or another, and they contribute toward the usability of the space. It isn't fair to our fellow contributors to allow others to use and take from that space when we ourselves are not willing to supervise our own guests' use of the space. How do you become a member? People who want to become a member of the space must meet members of the space and learn about membership and the space. They need to announce to the membership, through the discuss list, that they want to become a member and answer responses to their post so that members who might come to a meeting will be satisfied with their reasons for wanting to join. Also, use of the mailinglist demonstrates a basic ability to communicate and be accountable to other members in case they are accepted. After making their desires known, they will come to meetings to get to know people, and announce that they would like to become a member. They can discuss with the group what kind of contribution they feel comfortable making, based on their income or free time levels, and in the case of nonmonetary contributions, how they propose their contributions be tracked (could be an email declaring that they cleaned the space at 3PM today and saw certain members there who saw it happen) I think that we should not do like noisebridge and expect a secret discussion, or expect a specific timeline for consideration of membership. If a person makes their bid for membership on the list and shows up to the nearest meeting after that, they should not expect to achieve membership for at least another week while the possiblity for objections is there. At their first meeting the announcement having been made, one week should be sufficient time for the membership to bring out any uncertainties. If a person is a member of the space, they should not have any less accountability to the space than a nonmember (on the contrary). This means that a member can be discussed at a meeting for questionable behavior and if necessary, have their membership revoked by the group. Consensus Minus One would be nice for this purpose but is too limiting in practice, because we hackers tend to be contrary and side with the underdog to a fault. If a large portion of the membership agrees that a person is not a good fit for the space, the minority should not ask them to put aside their discomfort without convincing them of the reasons in dialogue. Why is this necessary? As I said in the beginning, i feel that sudoroom is riding on a streak of luck and hard work at the moment, and that we can't expect this to continue in the face of entropy. We already have and will continue to see abuse of the space by people who have no feelings of accountability, and our members have no recourse or policy to address anything like that. I know from experience what results from this, and it is sad. The failure of Sudoroom would not be a sufficiently educational experience to justify allowing it to happen, when the lessons we would learn have been offered so many times in other places. We talk about the challenge of diversity in a hackerspace like ours. One thing we don't seek is diversity of people who are good and bad for what we're trying to do. We do not invite drug dealers to sudoroom to sell meth to people from the street outside, even though it would please them greatly if they could use our space. We don't invite meth addicts to browse our hacking materials shelves to find copper and aluminum to recycle so they can buy more drugs. We also should not invite people to the space who are unwilling to behave in a way that is respectful to the members and guests whose interests we share, and want to share. That means that, despite our aversion to exclusion, we need to choose between excluding some or excluding others. For example, if we refuse abusive or disrespectful behavior and those who insist on it, we create an accessible space for people who avoid that behavior. If we maintain an atmosphere of cooperation and care for each other and the hardware that is our space, we invite people from all backgrounds who seek to do the same things. On the other hand, if we refuse this responsibility, we allow the tone to be set by those with the loudest voice, and the least to lose, and the quiet and self-respecting people will go elsewhere. I ask that we look to the future to envision the challenges we can expect as we continue to grow and do more awesome things, and think about what we hope to achieve. That is why we need to protect ourselves, each other, and our hackerspace, from complacency and entropy as best we can. well, I feel that i have said more than enough about it for now, but if anyone has opinions on this i look forward to continuing the discussion. - -jake -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSNPBmAAoJEN7XJKHgSSB182gP/00w2SXQSH1P+6Ctp43OnSeo dHRneibcUo9QjXJeENONeLXtrB2B2qEgJvb1ePDCFDT93Z/Iw5Rtp83CZ8WYywxj zNx5cPVkfffac0hgBL79k9dYhuDYD81kqgOk4EHuow1E7ZiNmezqGhkYBuEtm+YU +u4QZN0+I9W7smjFLFr3XnQOz3x6IdjC4w2NchqVkXoGlKlwpsyLMykmFjI4SyaY QxZUJ+YzeBqhUMPGV9w2DY9C/gL9LjvjLl33jO71xWrNb1ojRmAbFc7UgEUHKces KwLgWRChp/g4h75Nge9uTkqs/ETgtpDeYjbP8yrSp154wYJUpSPqiduFKJCdpTCD au6Da2qP7Th/uWSiGMBoEr7wOBGV13HOQUOF5mYb1nW9zB+0EQMYzKk/T+cUcRQW y4l8H9j11Y0JXfPrbQm1YwRVLcHEyKSHbV/crjXn+jY6YSePr49Mhcb+hzLOz80E cg1/iHDk20SD7L/7aNQONkO8LgtCIZO+pO6QT2v8OM3i/6YKp2j5dC4yoRMysJRp TjkI6uW/fi2NEz2ULQaif6zaJ9Ac47XoNzmYU6a1/Jw+oiZ8lNjgQBD7s13epEHP /Df3SRZcRO8JVKoN/c4yLyORlvVbn7FV++A87nsD4+NeZjTx3OlFG+McXXo+4RKS 9CragepqbGfJyZ9GIRl7 =tNc2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- [View Less]

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Fwd: Tenant Statement, 2141 Broadway & Invitations!!

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:34 PM Subject: Tenant Statement, 2141 Broadway & Invitations!! To: exchequer(a)sudoroom.org Cc: eddan(a)eddan.com, mattsenate(a)gmail.com Dear Tenants at 2131-2147 Broadway: I apologize for the group message this month, but my email has been down for 24 hours and I have a limited amount of time in which to send out sooo many messages! There are 2 attachments to … [View More]

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foundational bio / hacking TIL this sat

by Praveen Sinha

Hihi, I'll be doing a foundational bio hacking TIL this sat at sudoroom! Alexander and Andre who are badass nano-biohackers will be backing me up. We'll be covering the basics of how DNA, RNA, proteins and gene splicing works. Hope to see you there! Love and Peace! https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned#September_14_:_Understanding_DNA_…

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plan for empty bottles at sudo?

by Marina Kukso

there are many of them. they keep growing in number. do the folks who reuse the bottles have a timeline for when they plan to use them? - marina

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this thurs at wikimedia fndn: chicktech social (women in tech event)

by Marina Kukso

https://chicktechatwikimedia.eventbrite.com/ - marina ps - who comes up with the names for these groups >_< i guess the founder will be there so i can ask her :D

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relevant to you: bank account news

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, a refill of checks that was supposed to be delivered from the bank never arrived and when jenny went to find out what to do, the bank people said that it was a high security risk to have checks floating around in the world tied to our existing account. unfortunately their solution to this problem is not very elegant. their official policy is that when this kind of thing happens that they open a new account with a new account number to avoid any possibility of someone using the … [View More]

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Incident Saturday

by Yardena Cohen

Sorry for being slow in documenting this, but the community deserves to know that this happened. Sometime on Friday night, the men's bathroom was vandalized. I feel confident that it was an art-murmur walk-in, but there is no way to know for sure. They spread human feces along the walls creating what appeared to be two swastika shapes - not entirely faithful renditions but enough to reasonably perceive swastikas in them. I learned of this when I came to set up my TIL Saturday around noon. Our … [View More]landlord George showed it to me. He was understandably upset, both about having to clean up the mess and also about the symbolism. His father is Jewish. He wondered if he had been targeted. I also was not happy, as a queer Jew with many family members in Yad Vashem. Unfortunately, this caused him to descend into another tirade in which nobody was spared. He assumed right away it was done by a Sudoroom member. There was a clear path of association that went: Sudoroom -> anarchists -> Nazis. At one point he even suggested that a kid from Sudo Kids had "come back to finish the job". But mostly he accused Sudo members. Since I was representing Sudoroom in this conversation, he ended up addressing me over and over as if I was personally responsible for this swastika, as if I had done it myself. I actually found this to be the most traumatic part of the whole event. Not even offensive, just downright traumatic. There was the usual fare of yelling about money and society and his inability to find good tenants. He twice informed me that he was evicting both Sudoroom and the Public School and that Laurie would prepare a 30 days notice. He's said that before. He told me that Sudoroom and Public School should close their doors for the rest of the day, because "If I see any of them, I will beat them up!" I told him I'm sorry, but I have a Linux class scheduled for 2:00, please don't beat them up. That calmed him down a little. In short, the rant was a mix of old and new. Except this time Laurie was there. Laurie is our other landlord - she is George's wife and they own the building equally. The way he talked to her during this rant was very revealing, because she also became a target. He yelled at her for not having a 30-days notice already prepared, for having written the craigslist ads that attracted Sudoroom and Public School (and, incidentally, many of his other tenants). He said quite hurtful things to her, including that she was nothing but a drain on his life and that he wanted a divorce from her. She just stood there quietly saying nothing, holding their dog on a leash, looking at me with eyes that said "I'm sorry you have to see this." After a while, when George left the room, she apologized to me. She said "please don't listen to anything he said, he just gets that way when his buttons are pushed." They ended up not leaving for a couple hours. Initially George refused to clean the bathroom or let anybody else clean it because he wanted to show evidence to the cops, who he believed would show up to investigate. It took a chorus of Laurie and several of his other tenants to convince him that OPD doesn't show up for things like this, the cops aren't coming, the bathroom smells, please let's just clean it up. Eventually he lost steam and they left. I'm not really sure how to wrap up this email. Writing it was difficult. You will have to draw your own conclusions. [View Less]

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Pinnacle of cultural diversity

by Max Klein

Amber, Thanks for sharing the Video "The Origin of the phrase 'women of colour'"[1]. I have often felt uneasy about using or even listening to the phare because I don't like subscribing to the "colour theory" of race, and try to stop using colour descriptors for people. However it's good to know the purpose behind the designation which I support quite a lot. Thanks for sharing, Max [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82vl34mi4Iw&feature=youtu.be From: amber yada <amberyadaanimation(… [View More]

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Re: [sudo-discuss] intertwinkles collaborative decisionmaking tool

by Jake

I was not able to sign in. I went to the link you posted and it asked me to sign in. No invitation to create a new account. So i put my email address and it asked me to verify it (which i did) and then it gave the following cryptic error message: Permission Denied Sorry about that. Are you signed in as the right user? If we screwed up, please let us know what happened. Feedback & Support Marina wrote: are you guys able to sign up for the sudo room group? https://intertwinkles.org/… [View More]

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defining our membership: notes, next steps, and what's at stake

by Marina Kukso

hi all, we've been trying to figure out who is a member and how we determine membership for a long time. we have not yet come up with a resolution. although we keep (miraculously) making the rent, we are severely constrained in our ability to expand (expand our space, become a nonprofit, etc.) by not having good answers to key questions like "who is a member," "how do people become new members," and "how do people continue to be members." we have explored a lot of ideas but no proposal has had … [View More]

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oakland nights live tonight at sudo room

by Marina Kukso

hi all, oakland nights live will be at sudo room tonight. do enjoy. there will hopefully be lots of new people! here's the event link: https://www.facebook.com/events/173230236198036/ - marina

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favorite friday tweet

by Praveen Sinha

https://twitter.com/anildash/status/378186182859161600 That's us!!!!!!!!!!!

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intertwinkles collaborative decisionmaking tool

by Marina Kukso

are you guys able to sign up for the sudo room group? https://intertwinkles.org/groups/show/sudo-room/ not sure if i have to invite people or if you can just ask to join. - marina

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Help

by Nathan Atkinson

Unsubscribe On Sep 13, 2013, at 4:44 PM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-… [View More]discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Hacker exchange program + Knownodes (dor garbash) > 2. Awesome Wednesday drop in (Romy Snowyla) > 3. defining our membership: notes, next steps, and what's at > stake (Marina Kukso) > 4. Pinnacle of cultural diversity (Romy Snowyla) > 5. Re: Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group on Thursday > (Gregg Horton) > 6. Re: Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group on Thursday > (Andrey Fedorov) > 7. Re: Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group on Thursday > (Gregg Horton) > 8. Disaster Recovery SDR-based mesh (Marc Juul) > 9. Re: Incident Saturday (johanna faust) > 10. Apple's new fingerprint ID and the 5th amendment (Jonathan levin) > 11. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Disaster Recovery SDR-based mesh > (Matthieu Tourne) > 12. Pinnacle of cultural diversity (Patrick Schmidt) > 13. Re: Pinnacle of cultural diversity (Marina Kukso) > 14. Re: Incident Saturday (Andrew) > 15. Re: Incident Saturday (Hol Gaskill) > 16. foundational bio / hacking TIL this sat (Praveen Sinha) > 17. Re: Incident Saturday (Andrew) > 18. Re: Pinnacle of cultural diversity (Patrick Schmidt) > 19. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Disaster Recovery SDR-based mesh > (Marc Juul) > 20. Re: foundational bio / hacking TIL this sat (Patrik D'haeseleer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:38:43 +0200 > From: dor garbash <dor.garbash(a)gmail.com> > To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > Subject: [sudo-discuss] Hacker exchange program + Knownodes > Message-ID: > <CADpEMmvN=pmobWMvcFDM15x4NeSbVxfiOWoYtq-+5vrJJTkQUw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear Sudoers, > > Thank you all so much for hosting me, I'm already making plans towards a > second visit :) > > Being the first guest of the hacker exchange program, I'm passing the torch > - > anyone interested in to be hosted by me and the CRI in Paris? Just drop me > a line. > > Regarding Knownodes, we have already began a concrete collaboration: The > development of the public API for Knownodes, initiated by Matt: > https://github.com/CyberCRI/KnowNodes/issues/56 > > Interested in contributing with the API, or other aspects of the project? > Here are a couple of ways to contribute if you're interested: > > * Help with code, design or communication by joining a hackathon we will be > organising in November. The hackathon will happen in an old monastery in > the french countryside that has been converted into an anarchist workplace > for artists and hackers. It's as awesome as it sounds, and I might be able > to subsidise travel and staying costs. > > * Help spread the word by organising a Knownodes workshop to map a problem, > an open question or a project. I will help you out with workshop material, > advice feedback etc'. > > * If you wish to stay informed about the project join our list. > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/knownodes > > And don't forget: http://i.imgur.com/CyQKlTC.gif > > Health and happiness, > > Dor > > > -- > Get some insight of what makes me tick: > My twitter <https://twitter.com/#!/garbash> > Knownodes blog <http://knownodes.tumblr.com/> > > Dor Garbash > 108 Rue du faubourg du temple, Paris 75011 > +33-652919878 > [View Less]

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Disaster Recovery SDR-based mesh

by Marc Juul

Hi! Some of us at sudo room / east bay mesh are working on a low bandwidth disaster recovery mesh project based on software defined radios. We're prototyping with a combination of USRP1 and RTL-SDR devices and GNU Radio. We're having some issues getting the receivers to demodulate our data streams (using DQPSK and QAM modulation). Does anyone have experience with such matters and if so, would you sit down with us and help debug our setup (or even join the project)? Willing to meet at … [View More]

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Apple's new fingerprint ID and the 5th amendment

by Jonathan levin

Hey Sudo, Interesting article in WIRED about the possible legal implications of using biometric methods of data protection. http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/09/the-unexpected-result-of-fingerprint-a… Enjoy! JDL

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Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group on Thursday

by Gregg Horton

Starts today! https://www.coursera.org/course/crypto We will meet up on thursday to go over this weeks material. 6-7pm at the SudoRoom!

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Awesome Wednesday drop in

by Romy Snowyla

What an amazing Wednesday drop in. There were all these new people talking non stop in some kind of amazing math amazing ness The Noisebridge people were there too and they were doing cross pollination I felt all these multi cultural ethnic tolerant vibes as people emerged from the public school. What genuine passion! Sudo room is just amazing And then I walked down the street past the amazing burger joint. There is an amazing taco place and all this amazing culture and nightlife . It's … [View More]

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Hacker exchange program + Knownodes

by dor garbash

Dear Sudoers, Thank you all so much for hosting me, I'm already making plans towards a second visit :) Being the first guest of the hacker exchange program, I'm passing the torch - anyone interested in to be hosted by me and the CRI in Paris? Just drop me a line. Regarding Knownodes, we have already began a concrete collaboration: The development of the public API for Knownodes, initiated by Matt: https://github.com/CyberCRI/KnowNodes/issues/56 Interested in contributing with the API, or … [View More]

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Fwd: THURS. AM! Put new trash bins inside!

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:53 PM Subject: THURS. AM! Put new trash bins inside! To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>, Bay Area Public School Organizing < bayareapublicschool-organizing(a)googlegroups.com> Hi matt/Jenny, can you please fwd this to SUDO-discuss? Sudoers/BAPS ppl: 1. NEW TRASH BINS are being delivered by Waste Mgmt to the … [View More]

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