But not to be lost in the discussion, and, in fact, most critical, is the value in multitudes, in variance, and in solidarity, based upon empathy and mutual understanding. This in resistance to dominant patterns of division and subsequent conquest. Therefore I claim scrutiny over cultural and linguistic appropriation remains relevant and crucial to recognize in context of mutual respect rather than a laissez-faire attitude.
What I mean is, let's try not to muddle it, but certainly cuddle it.
// Matt
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From: "Anthony Di Franco" <di.franco(a)gmail.com>
To: "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01(a)att.net>
Cc: ",sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] cuddling it
Date: Fri, May 3, 2013 5:19 PM
That is all quite interesting and adds a lot of texture to the discussion.
And so is the question of the phrase "killer app" interesting. Consonant with an existential struggle among companies to achieve a position of oligarch in a crony capitalist market by killing off the competition once and for all and salting the earth they ate from with regulations and collusions so nothing will ever grow there again.
Though, I don't know how to limit things to a subculture supposed to be our own since we are all part of and relate to many different cultures, without necessarily any universal common thread, and the idea of creating fiefdoms of discourse based on arbitrary dualistic in-group-out-group distinctions is unappealing anyway.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote:
Yo's-
None the less, useful to explore.
As I understand the history of this:
The word "savage" is the English adaptation of the French word
"sauvage" that originally meant "forest-dweller." At the time of
early European settlement in North America, the practice in Europe
was that only members of the nobility had the privilege of hunting
in the forests: "commoners" (that would be us) were forbidden from
doing so, often under penalty of death.
The Europeans who settled in North America were highly surprised to
see that no such restriction existed among the Native peoples: any
and all tribe members hunted freely in the woods.
The phrase "noble savage" originally referred to this: the idea that
ordinary tribe members had what in Europe was a special privilege of
the nobility, the freedom to hunt in the woods. The European
settlers envied the First Nations peoples for having a privilege
that they themselves did not have.
The dynamic is quite real to this day, of city-dwellers' envy of
rural peoples, and industrial-culture peoples' envy of
hunter-gatherer peoples. It's a generalization of "the grass is
always greener in the other person's yard." It works both ways:
every axis of contrast between someone's own circumstances and
someone else's circumstances can become grounds for comparisons that
may risk turning invidious in some way. And once that process gets
started, it opens the door to all manner of psychodynamic smog.
So about "killing it":
Seems to me that if we're concerned about (whatever issue), and we
run across examples that may be entangled with
racial/ethnic/religious/gender/etc. issues, the best thing to do is
to stick to examples that come squarely from within our own
subculture.
And what's the most frequent example of embedded violent language in
geek/nerd/maker/hacker culture?
How'bout "killer app"? Let's start with that one.
-G.
(Back under the correct address now; thanks to all who helped fix
that.)
On 13-05-03-Fri 3:18 PM, Anthony Di
Franco wrote:
No worries. My response was a rhetorical
answer.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM, netdiva
<netdiva(a)sonic.net>
wrote:
Dont
worry, that was really just a rhetorical question.
On 5/3/2013 3:11 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote:
Of course.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:08 PM, netdiva <netdiva(a)sonic.net <mailto:netdiva@sonic.net>> wrote:
Did you actually just say this in public?
On 5/3/2013 3:04 PM, Anthony Di Franco wrote:
Doesn't the civilized psyche secretly crave the
things it sets itself
apart from and gives up and projects on its
image of the noble savage
though?
Your description seems more like meditatively
flowing through it.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, netdiva <netdiva(a)sonic.net <mailto:netdiva@sonic.net>
<mailto:netdiva@sonic.net
<mailto:netdiva@sonic.net>>>
wrote:
Here I was thinking "killing it" was just
another example of
appropriation of african american vernacular by
the mainstream.
On 5/3/2013 2:46 PM, Leonid Kozhukh wrote:
"killing it" is a recently popular term to
denote excellence and
immense progress. it has a violent, forceful
connotation.
friends in the circus community - through
empirical evidence - have
established a belief that operating at the
highest levels of talent
requires mindfulness, awareness, and calm. thus,
a better term, which
they have started to playfully use, is "cuddling
it."
thought sudoers would appreciate this.
cuddling it,
-- len
founder, ligertail http://ligertail.com
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!sretirw yeH
Are we alone in the universe? This is a shout out from someone who lives in
your star sector requesting a star sector block party! In other words: If
you are a writer and would like to use your passion-skill for the purposes
of furthering the grasp of Sudo Room upon the innocent brains of
unsuspecting learners, please give me/the list a holler. I'd like to get a
sense of who's out there, and most importantly who's interested in banding
together to do some siiick writing.
We are not alone.
Hey all -
This sunday is http://tacoconf.com which is a bike tour of tacos in
Oakland. I'm organizing the event and was hoping we could get the
TacoCopter to come do a demo but they are sadly unavailable.
I have a couple of Parrot AR Drones (http://nodecopter.com/) and was
wondering if anyone wants to put together a makeshift TacoCopter with me
tonight or tomorrow at Sudoroom. Here's what I need help with:
- from 11AM - 12PM people will be showing up for TacoConf at Snow Park in
downtown Oakland, since I need to go onwards with the conf I am hoping
someone can transport the drones to and from sudoroom at those times. They
are pretty small, but I can't carry em on my bike.
- I need someone to pilot the drone(s) and 'deliver' a taco at Snow Park! I
can instruct on how to do this
- Also I was planning to have a bicycle based taco vendor come by the park
and serve tacos but they had to cancel last minute. I'm looking for backups
but I can always just bring some tacos specifically for delivery to the
park ahead of time
A more illustrious announcement will come as the time nears, but in the
mean time I leave your roving eyes and feasting curiosity to this:
Bike Smut 6: Turning Trixxx
Friday, May 17
Doors open: 8:22pm
Show starts: 9.07pm
$5-10 suggested donation
Help me work on the wiki
page<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/2013_Bike_Smut_screening>
!
Come to the SR general meeting if you are interested in having a discussion
on topics such as safety, show logistics, money/\yenom, fooooooood, etc.
etc.
I spoke a little about DIY Bio with the person who is organizing a bio
entrepreneurship presentation / pitching / networking event next Thursday
evening and she said people could join in the pitch session if desired or
simply come to network. It will be big-data and
French/Bay-investment/incubation focused so I am intrigued by the potential
of a group of hackers showing up adhering to an unconventional-to-audience
route to impact (open, decentralized development) and considering
unconventional project ideas. Not just the potential for lulz, since the
relevant tech media will be there.
Let me / us know if you'd like to get a DIY Bio / sudo room group together
to do a semi-formal brief introduction of the groups and the projects being
worked on.
Event details are here:
http://www.meetup.com/French-US-Innovators-Entrepreneurs-in-Silicon-Valley/…
We're moving sudoroom.org to a new server. There may be a brief outage
for all mailing lists and other services while DNS propagates and we
get things set up right. We'll send another email when things are
working again. Thanks for your patience!
Do you want Sudo Room events, big and small, to be healthy and safe for all
involved? You're not alone--become a Glow Worm! Glow Worms are the
guardians of safe space and ambassadors of harm reduction. As a Glow Worm,
you will:
- Be prepared and ok with taking a lead role in addressing emergency
situations.
- Keep a watchful eye over events and preventatively ensure the safety
and happiness of everyone in attendance.
- Learn how to care for people in need.
- Wear fabulous glowsticks so people know they can go to you for help!
An excellent way to learn is to do. Here are two upcoming events we can use
for our training:
ART MURMUR: Let's meet this Friday at 6:30p at Sudo Room for our first
round of practice!
BIKE SMUT: Let's meet Friday, May 17th at 7:30p and ensure the continued
fabulousness and sex positivity of this event!
If you are interested, please reply to the list or to the Vicky. :]
Sudomate mk 5 proved its popularity this week at the meeting.
This *Friday at noon* we're meeting to *make mate* to* sell* at *Art Murmur*.
Drop in to help. With any luck, *we'll be bottling*.
We'll have all necessary ingredients. Just bring yourself.
Also we'll be documenting / filming so it won't be just us in the future.
Not confusing.
Hello Appreciators of fine food,
It is that day again in which we come together as a community to eat, drink
and be merry (we also get sh*t done!)
Anyone got some pasta they're willing to donate to tonight's weekly dinner?
We need apprx 5 bags. I'm bringing lots of homemade red sauce that we can
throw on the pasta.
Anyone want to bring bread or fixins for a salad?
If there are any other ideas for dinner, I'm totally willing to help.
Cheers,
Ray
Hey everyone, I've been experimenting in existential
property acquisition and development. And would like to invite you all to
check it out and put on a hard hat and build a shovel to continue iterating
with me on it's development.
If any of you are familiar with Second Life, this is basically an open
source version of that running on an Simulator instance on my server
actually at ChezHack. So for those of you that have been here, or wanted to
be, you can "teleport" here thru the intertubes.
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/HyperGrid
If anyone is already well versed in SL and/or OpenSim please let yourself
be known, as I could use some tips in getting things dialed in. Also if
you're interested in building the ultimate hackerspace in cyberspace, this
could be a good way to start.
--
ThanX,
;+)
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/%C3%9F%C3%AA%C3%A3%C2%B5
Hi all,
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/zip/3776196333.html
13x nice ikea chairs, for free! For sudoroom! Nice! I know that model and
its pretty nice actually. rather good ergonomics.
we are first in line for them. needs pickup tomorrow wednesday between
9:30am and 1pm. I cannot pick them up in that time. Please let me know if
you can, so that I can give a yes/no. Its in downtown oakland, specific
address no known yet.
Morten
We should invite Marcia and the EFF folks out to publicize this important corporate socially responsible technology report launch. Any interest?
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On Sunday, April 21st, there took place the first of an infinite number of
freepile parties you're all invited to. This was a secret ploy to get all
of your old natural fiber clothing for the purposes of making cloth
menstrual pads.
<OMG>Now, on Saturday, May 4th at 2pm, we will be transforming your
security sweatshirt into the most beautiful and practical object to hit
2141 yet!</OMG>
Learn more (and sign up) at Today I
Learned<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_4_Hacking_Sexual_Health:…>.
Here's to understanding and working things through! Revphil and I also plan
on being at the meeting tomorrow to talk further details, including
off-list stuff, so please be there if you're very interested.
We've worked out a time--doors open 8:22, show starts 9:07 sharp. I'll send
out an announcement right now.
ok, i have been away from sudoroom for a full two nights now
i miss sudoroom!
we have org nerds that work really hard to keep the projects running. that
stuff is hard.
it is the only place i've hung out at where there are serious women
hackers. that is so rad
after all these years you bastards are finally making me consider
installing linux on my laptop. not even my ex boyfriend could talk me into
it!
i like that there is pushback against too many overly commercial projects
at sudoroom. it creates a safe space. i do not get this safe feeling at
places that are too profit-oriented. it is like eliminating recess at
school and leads to burnout
people actually consider alternatives to current economics models in a
serious way, which I really appreciate even though my views are often
different
it is a place where people forgive each other
there is a hella ton of homemade vegan food at the meetings! that is so
cool. we make it too.
when i lived in the south bay i felt like my brain was dying. students
there did not really go to demonstrations. they did not think that much
about politics or economics.
it was hard to get them to think much about anything. i'm not sure why
this happened but i think it's a structural thing. i'm very lucky to talk
to people at sudoroom who are structurally not mentally destroyed and who
still think and feel passionate