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Anyone knows where Hol works? PM me if so.

by Morten H. D. Fuglsang

Make a great day, Morten H. D. Fuglsang US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest

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Possible New Space at 1924 Franklin

by Andrew

Hey All, Some Sudoers went over to http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html today to check it out. There are three spaces available. I took some pictures of the 1100 sqft space that's $1500. I don't have pictures of the other spaces. I know other people do. Take a look. The other spaces are larger and have more spaces for shop like activities and are 4500 sqft for $4000 (no elevator), and a street facing ground floor retail space at 4000 sqft for $5000. A big plus is that one of the spaces was being used by the landlord to fix macs and donate them to non profits and schools. So yeah, good landlord :-) --Andrew -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507 http://roshambomedia.com

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East Bay Vegan Drinks - 18th May Olde Depot Oakland

by Ryan Bethencourt

Dear All, I just thought you might be interested in a fun upcoming event, the East Bay Vegan drinks night on Thursday May 18th at Olde Depot in Jack London! I thought it might be a great cross pollination between Sudo room, East Bay DIY Bio and the East Bay Veg community (which is also diverse). At the moment there are 20 people confirmed on Facebook and about 12 maybes, come, join us, hang out whether you're vegan, veg, veg curious or just want to come and have a beer and hang out :) - - Thursday, May 16, 2013<https://www.facebook.com/events/calendar/2013/May/16> - 6:30pm until 8:30pm - Whether you're vegetarian, vegan, or just experimenting with meat-free eating, come meet others in the community for happy hour drinks! We'll be at the new vegan bar Olde Depot, right down the street from Souley Vegan, one of Oakland's best.

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Paaaayyy your dues!

by Marina Kukso

people, tomorrow is the last day of april. you know what that means: the day after tomorrow, we will need to once again pay our rent in order to continue to stay at our current address. you have a number of ways to contribute: 1) online (via wepay): https://sudoroom.org/ 2) online (via gittip): https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/ 3) in person (anytime): please drop cash or checks into the clear plastic box by the door that goes to the elevator 4) in person (at meetings): bring cash or checks to wed. meetings. see you soon, marina

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Fwd: former pictopia building- thoughts?

by Patrik D'haeseleer

This place seems way too large for any of us individually, but could make for a good place for a hackerspace collective, if a couple groups want to band together. Not close to BART, but with a good bus connection (including the free Emery Go-Round shuttle). Patrik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matthew Harbowy <hbergeronx(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM Subject: former pictopia building- thoughts? To: east-bay-diybio(a)googlegroups.com All, just saw this poking about: http://www.ccarey.com/resources/propertysearch/DetailPageIndustrialLease.as… 7000 sq ft, Emeryville, ~$7030/month A bit bigger than we need, but it has tremendous curb appeal in terms of a space that would attract attention. Not that that's a good thing. Thoughts? -matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "East Bay DIYbio" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to east-bay-diybio+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

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Sudo Shirts: 2nd Edition

by Daniel Finlay

Hi Sudoers, I've received some inquiries about when we could do a second batch of sudo shirts. Herein I will lay the groundwork for such shirts to happen. First of all, today I was struck with a very simple sudo shirt design, which combines a few ideals that I've developed from my time screen printing: Using a colored shirt, minimizing ink use through tactful shirt color choice, creating focus from the graphical elements instead of the text. Also since this design would be a one-screen design, it would be ideal for doing an in-house screen printing workshop using water based inks (another environmentally superior decision), not to mention the possibility of keeping the screen on location for impromptu sudo prints. This design is not actually the original sudo-button .svg that goes around. I modified this one (attached) to enhance the lines, fix a couple corner-jag issues, and to tweak some of the sides to be more parallel. I'm pretty sure the edges are not all "perfectly parallel" here, and if we have any illustrator gurus on the list, that might be a cool thing to do. That said, this is a more precise sudo logo than we've had before, let me know if the subtle imperfections were cherished and I can revert this design. (Btw- What's the constellation depicted? Any?) I and other sudo members have volunteered to donate the labor involved in producing these shirts, which would bring the price down to "cost", which will be $4.55 per shirt (American Apparel runs more expensive, but has some good-labor practices, so unless there's another preferred manufacturer, it seems the morally superior choice for now). I donated the previous batch of shirts, but I'm currently donating what I can per month in dollars, so I'd like the Sudo Room's help to buy the blank shirts. If resold at $20 each, there would be a 339% profit on each shirt sold, which is probably a good thing to ask, since it doesn't require change, and it's a fundraising shirt anyway. So: How's support for this design, and at $4.55/shirt, how many would we like Sudo Room to stock up on? When the time to print comes around, I'll organize the volunteer effort, thanks for all the offers I've received! -Dan Finlay

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Bike Smut update!

by Vicky Knox

Hey everyone! Thank you so much for agreeing to host Bike Smut!! Below are the details that Bike Smut co-organizer Reverend Phil and I are working on. Your help and input is much appreciated, so please speak up! With your help, this event will be that much more spectacular! 1) MONEY/TICKETS Due in part to the popularity of the show, and to keep the show going, Bike Smut has historically been a paid-entry event. They would like to offer to split door sales with Sudo Room 50/50--yay money!! (And just a note on this: I don't know if this is a no-brainer, but this would not effect your ability to access Sudo Room. Please be fair though if you do plan to "sneak in" and donate a little mulah if you are able to.) 2) AUDIO Does anyone here on the list have access to a good audio system for movie screenings? This will be an ongoing question as we host Fabulous Friday Films. I have a carshare and can offer to pick up, babysit and drop off your sound system. 3) SEATING Hooray for all our couches, chairs and pews! We will need help with arrangement and expanding our seating options. 4) LIGHTING The show includes live performances, and said performances will need good lighting. Overhead lighting is not flattering, and a few lamps might be all we need. Let's try setting this up in advance. 5) PROMOTION It's a strange beast but absolutely critical to the show. This is the last screening of their current tour, "Turning Trixxx" in The Bay and possibly ever. Let's make sure people feel luck they got a seat at all! Please make a call out to your networks far and wide! Sudo Room promotion: Bike Smut people will be giving us a shout-out. If you have any other suggestions for promoting our space, please speak up! 6) MERCH/DRINKS/SUNDRIES We will need to claim one of the common room tables (5 sq feet or more) to sell underwear, stickers, and such. Beverages: Let's talk off-list at the next meeting (May 1st) regarding availability/donations/etc. Food: Pretzels! Popcorn! If there is something snacky you like making, consider bringing it for donations/sale! And finally, "I'm glad we have got some mustached men on working the door. Ushers who can make the guests comfortable are very welcome." --Reverend Phil

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Booking the Common Space

by William Budington

Hey all, In the interests of sharing the common space with The Public School folks and not double-booking events, and in the absence of a web-based solution, the Public School has posted a physical calendar in the common room. If an event is expected to be large enough that it needs to reserve the common room and can not meet in sudoroom proper (I'm thinking Oakland Nights Live, for instance), please pen in your event for that day as well as the time it's starting/ending, so that other groups that use the common space know that the space is reserved. If your event is only going to take up half the common room, but is still too large for sudoroom, please write it in anyway and make a note (e.g. "1/2 common room needed") and then if the Public School has a similar situation we can work it out on a case-by-case basis. I predict this to be an edge-case though. Sudodarity forever! Bill

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"Running a Hackerspace" tumblr

by Garrett Robinson

In case you have a severe .gif deficiency, or need procrastination fodder: http://runningahackerspace.tumblr.com

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NymRights meetup - Thursday (5/2) at 7pm

by aestetix

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey! It looks like we'll be having our next NymRights meetup this Thursday, 7pm at sudo room*, near the 19th st BART stop. I'm also going to try to arrange for some kind of call-in conference phone number so that people who are not in Oakland can join and contribute as well. Main topics for the meeting: * What is this IDESG thing coming up? * Discussion on our existing "nym" use cases * Positive ways to educate people on nyms We'll also make something resembling meeting notes and post it on NymRights.org for people who cannot make it but are interested in participating. Cheers, aestetix * https://sudoroom.org/ (map to entrance on the website) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRflWpAAoJEOrRfDwkjbpTfu0H/1LLcNGY/Z/fYD+h2wiPEJd3 KVsE/B9H3kYo7areyCiwtHFyq6A6igekJF19PCTpr6IAFdlRN/RWPKVD8ZN3ESKi ba7FBhk/0cd4eQW65TWh2T0jmRIfNJBqSKGhym13m+XJgeFBbP4+70ymNoXWMv8N 4xjkHX8MpE2r41I25AQs0zqbbs9kQ7JsuPAugjRLDpmmo9XrPDiVhHQfIsM/Filh X0NyVTA0N1+53NZZv8cFm+FNd5LyRcWiCKbbg7lpn9JWO5UezL3Ewr8Sujb1vn7o jUp6evYirawyjM64EvDSwSeLa7t1mcxC0+pqGtfw2GJkbpnUwM1EHUbKKkkqyEU= =aonH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [sudo-discuss] today @ 7pm - czech new wave theme to Cleaning of Natural Decay (both mental and phsyical)

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

I'm excited to clean today, please join! Let's tackle natural decay! // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> To: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudo-discuss] today @ 7pm - czech new wave theme to Cleaning of Natural Decay (both mental and phsyical) Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 1:50 PM sudo roomers, I propose a healing theme to this evening's cleaning of natural decay the czech new wave film daisies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisies_(film) http://youtu.be/zm9Gh8Fpy0c let us now come together after the east bay sound meetup and forgive each other and cleanse each other of the sins of judgement, miscommunication, irritations, and misunderstandings to clean the buildup of natural decay food fight optional! peace love and happiness, r

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today @ 7pm - czech new wave theme to Cleaning of Natural Decay (both mental and phsyical)

by Romy Ilano

sudo roomers, I propose a healing theme to this evening's cleaning of natural decay the czech new wave film daisies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisies_(film) http://youtu.be/zm9Gh8Fpy0c let us now come together after the east bay sound meetup and forgive each other and cleanse each other of the sins of judgement, miscommunication, irritations, and misunderstandings to clean the buildup of natural decay food fight optional! peace love and happiness, r [image: Inline image 1]

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heavy duty sewing machine of some sort available near sudo room

by Anthony Di Franco

A friend of mine who sews semi-professionally mentioned that an exceptionally beefy sewing machine is available at the estate sale place by Jack London / 4th near Broadway (this one: http://www.somethingtosellabout.com/home.html) for $175 as of a few days ago. She'd split the cost with a few of us if we could put it in sudo room and make it available. I'd also split the cost with 3-4+ people. I won't be able to go down to see if it's still there, gather more detailed info, and plan transportation to sudo room if appropriate until Saturday at the earliest. With or without me, and asap, would anyone like to get involved as a co-investor, detective, or sewing machine transport specialist? Anthony

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meetings, learnings from biohacking

by Romy Ilano

one thing i learned from sitting in the biohacking group was that (biohacking) patrick established a rule that they would have a "working" meeting, not a socializing meeting, with more emphasis on managing time wisely and getting things done. i thought that was a cool approach. i personally like talking a lot at meetings, socializing but i realize my extroverted style isn't respectful of other styles perhaps we could experiment, do some "working" get things done quickly meetings with a minimum on longer speeches?

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this past wednesday night at sudo room :)

by Marina Kukso

we had some people who took the opportunity to make a few things out of clay during our meeting! [image: Inline image 1][image: Inline image 2] i think they liked it :)

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Proposal for Splitting the Sudo Meetings

by Andrew

Hi All, There has been a lot of talking about working and general meetings and how we can have fun and get down to business (have our cake and eat it too) at the Sudo Meetings. I would like to propose that we tackle this by simply splitting the meeting up in to two time blocks with different purposes. I wont be able to make it to the next few meetings, which is why I haven't proposed this sooner. But if anyone who is facilitating thinks this is a good idea and wants to follow it go ahead! Here's the proposal: 6:00 - 7:30 : Community Potluck + General Meeting (Introductions, Updates, and Announcements) 7:30 - 9:00 : Working Meeting (Proposals, Conflict Resolutions, Overflow Discussions) Thoughts? -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507 http://roshambomedia.com

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Fwd: PPP is Dance April !

by Romy Ilano

hey folks! next week there's a public school dance performance with free drinks, bar, etc. and a potliuck! very small world, my nyc roommate from 18 years ago sophia wang is dancing there too. she kicks ass and is a lot of good vibes. this is another idea for funding--the performance has free drinks, i'm sure there are going to be donations--> >>>>>>>>> (mimi - this is taking place in your friend's hacker space, the SUDO room!) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Salta Dance <ppp.is.dance(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:36 PM Subject: PPP is Dance April ! To: :: You are cordially invited to :: PPP is dance April 29th, 8pm (prompt!) at The Public School <http://thepublicschool.org/bay-area> <http://thepublicschool.org/bay-area>2141 Broadway, Oakland, ca Closest Bart: 19th Street new dance by: Larry / Laura Arrington ! Sophia Wang ! Peter Max Lawrence ! Tyler Holmes ! Ross Warren and Andy Schmeder ! Kazoo ! We are hosting an evening of dance in downtown Oakland. We hope you can be there. Collaboration through Juxtaposition Confrontation Emulation Ignorance and/or Contingency. Reperformance. Deperformance. Pseudo-, anti-, and total dance. Suck marrow. Blow minds. Incarnate our networkth. It’ll be cosy. Bring your crew. Don't forget! Your entrance to the PPP event is a non-monetary donation to the FREE BOUTIQUE and/or the FREE BAR where everyone drinks and gets cool stuff for free! Bring snacks, beverages, or other lovely things. PPP is a performance series / a historical process / what we have been waiting for. Info: http://saltadance.info

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Re: [sudo-discuss] MyaaWorld - a whole floor for Sudo Room - 3 mos. free

by Eddan Katz

I was thinking that it might be useful to have some of the Sudo Room projects have their own office. So all the documents, mailing list archives, and sections of the wiki relevant to that group can be made easily accessible. It could also be used to join in people remotely for the weekly meetings. Each room could have information that could be made available at different layers of permission according to role - so someone can come into a meeting that is a public meeting, but can't mess around with the etherpad or other trolling behavior. sent from eddan.com On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote: > >> Hi Sudo folk. >> >> As we're on the subject of expanding space, I wanted to let everyone know that I've negotiated 3 months free rent for an entire floor at MyaaWorld (http://www.myaa.com/myaa-world). I need some help re-configuring it to look just like our 'real life' space. I met with one of the principals today and they'd be very eager for Sudo Room to really make use of the floor. It seemed to me like they'd be willing to offer us a great long-term deal, if people were into bartering their skills and services. >> >> It's a virtual office space, with standard office services. I've opened up an office for eddan.com on the Myaa Legal floor. If you'd like to schedule a meeting to talk about legal stuff - we can close the 'office door' for a meeting, share and edit documents collaboratively. >> >> The Sococo platform it's on, by the way, just released their iPhone app yesterday. So I'll be in the office all day - let me know if you want to schedule something. >> >> -Eddan >> >> sent from eddan.come >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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MyaaWorld - a whole floor for Sudo Room - 3 mos. free

by Eddan Katz

Hi Sudo folk. As we're on the subject of expanding space, I wanted to let everyone know that I've negotiated 3 months free rent for an entire floor at MyaaWorld (http://www.myaa.com/myaa-world). I need some help re-configuring it to look just like our 'real life' space. I met with one of the principals today and they'd be very eager for Sudo Room to really make use of the floor. It seemed to me like they'd be willing to offer us a great long-term deal, if people were into bartering their skills and services. It's a virtual office space, with standard office services. I've opened up an office for eddan.com on the Myaa Legal floor. If you'd like to schedule a meeting to talk about legal stuff - we can close the 'office door' for a meeting, share and edit documents collaboratively. The Sococo platform it's on, by the way, just released their iPhone app yesterday. So I'll be in the office all day - let me know if you want to schedule something. -Eddan sent from eddan.come

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: [AMTD] party time!

by Hol Gaskill

that's a hell of a domain name Apr 24, 2013 06:50:05 PM, andrew(a)roshambomedia.com wrote: Hey Sudo Room. Some good news out of our brother hackspace AMT >--Andrew > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: >David Rorex drorex(a)gmail.com> > Date: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 6:14 PM >Subject: [AMTD] party time! >To: Ace Monster Toys discuss(a)lists.acemonstertoys.org>, "board(a)lists.acemonstertoys.org" board(a)lists.acemonstertoys.org> > > >http://doesamthave501c3yet.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)lists.acemonstertoys.org > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > >-- >-------Andrew LoweCell: 831-332-2507http://roshambomedia.com > > >_______________________________________________ >sudo-discuss mailing list >sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >

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Re: [sudo-discuss] "I will make them disabled"

by Yardena Cohen

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: > - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not interacting with him? Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door. I don't want SR to move either.

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Re: [sudo-discuss] "I will make them disabled"

by Jenny Ryan

I spoke with Steve, the CL poster, and he said 3:30 would be best to meet up and show the space. Morten, Andrew, Ray, David, and anyone else who would like to check it out, let's meet at 3:30 at 1924 Franklin (in front of the CoCo Cafe)! Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yup. I am available. :) > > > Raymond Lai > Ice Cream Man > Atomic Ice Cream > Facebook.com/MotoAtomico > > On Apr 25, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote: > > Hi Jenny, > > I want to clarify i'm down to go over there today at 3pm. Can I get the > number to call and confirm? Also Ray, are you available today at 3pm? > > Thanks, > Andrew > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> These are all really valuable points. >> >> However, I think it is important to explore opportunities when they >> arise, and would like to suggest some folks check the space out ASAP and >> give the rest of us a report-back. >> >> The first available slot is tomorrow between 3-4pm. I will unfortunately >> be working at that time, but whoever is available and interested please >> email me tonight/tomorrow morning and I will send along the cell # to call. >> >> They are also available to show the space Sunday between 10-11am, and >> Monday-Friday afternoons and some evenings. I am down for a Thursday >> afternoon tour, and if I don't get any replies back for tomorrow, I'll try >> to schedule a Thursday tour between 3-4pm. >> >> Re: issues with the landlord: Matt, Jordan, Andrew and myself (as far as >> I'm aware, but I'm sure there are others) have buffered the community from >> most of George's incorrigible behavior (I've been yelled at for things >> sudoers have not even been around to do more times than I can count) - >> though, granted, we have also put him through what I'm sure is unexpected >> turbulence - but it should also be noted for the record that his rapport >> with the EAST BAY *MEDITATION* CENTER was horrible enough to warrant them >> moving out on bad terms. >> >> Andrew's suggestion re: a revision of the contract is a good one, but I >> have the feeling it wouldn't do much to change deeply-embedded behavior >> patterns. We are growing too large for the space, regardless, and I also >> think it could be a great opportunity for a serious crowdfunding campaign. >> >> In love and solidarity, >> Jenny >> >> Jenny >> http://jennyryan.net >> http://thepyre.org >> http://thevirtualcampfire.org >> http://technomadic.tumblr.com >> >> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." >> -Laurie Anderson >> >> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining >> it." >> -Hannah Arendt >> >> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." >> -Stéphane Mallarmé >> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Tommy York <tommy.york(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I completely understand why members in this thread want to move into a >>> new space, both for the comments from the landlord and for other reasons as >>> well (moar space!), but I'd definitely like to advocate that we proceed >>> with due diligence. Matt mentioned trying to start a process where we >>> continually understand the real estate market and what our options are... >>> With that in mind, maybe we can figure out a process where: >>> >>> - we try to evaluate as many different spaces as possible, based on >>> criteria determined by consensus, and in those criteria... >>> - determine what's financially feasible, at what time period, with what >>> funding, etc. Rusty recently sent out that survey recently about funding, >>> and the few responses I read weren't at significantly higher price points, >>> though our questions centered around reserves. >>> >>> I suppose that I see the comments from the landlord as a potential >>> additional reason to re-evaluate the space, but not one minimally >>> sufficient to immediately relocate. >>> >>> As Bill mentioned, it'd be great to form some kind of exploratory >>> committee with the Public Schools. There's a lot of available commercial >>> space out there, and it'd be great to try and evaluate as much as we can. >>> >>> If anything, this thread demonstrates that we have a lot of leverage in >>> the management of the space. We could probably leave pretty easily, and >>> it's likely that group consensus would be okay with that. At the very, very >>> least, we need to ask that he respectfully talk to our members. Or, for >>> that matter, guests of our members. You know, people. As for his >>> conservative ideas about gender, a conversation with him when he's not in >>> rant-mode really might help. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------------- >>> Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510 >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Sam Tepper <sam.tepper(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Regarding our budget, I think that members in the past were expected to >>>> pay more, and if asked, many would be willing to pay more if it were for a >>>> good investment. Having a better deal on more space does seem to make >>>> sense to me, if we can be sure it meets all our needs. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Aestetix: >>>>> >>>>> There have been other issues. I am wary of listing them out, but like >>>>> I said they all surround having no clear boundaries and expectations and >>>>> his communication style of just saying whats on his mind, maybe throwing in >>>>> a threat, and then leaving. >>>>> >>>>> I think though in general we have been thinking about looking for a >>>>> new (bigger) space for awhile. No time like the present to start shopping >>>>> around. If we find something that fits in the budget and is close to bart >>>>> why not? >>>>> >>>>> --Andrew >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM, aestetix <aestetix(a)aestetix.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>>> >>>>>> So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with >>>>>> the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet >>>>>> if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we >>>>>> could work out with him. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/23/13 5:17 PM, William Budington wrote: >>>>>> > We should bring this up with The Public School as well, and see if >>>>>> > they might be willing to move with us. I'm sure the situation with >>>>>> > George is troublesome for them, too. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Bill >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote: >>>>>> >> This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch, Ray! >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we >>>>>> >> could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and >>>>>> >> discuss compatibility. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has >>>>>> >> also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio >>>>>> >> research. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org >>>>>> >> http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire >>>>>> >> around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of >>>>>> >> defining it." -Hannah Arendt >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane >>>>>> >> Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew >>>>>> >> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> WANT! Ray, can you email them? >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai >>>>>> >>> <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> Disable our leaving the space, George! >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Franklin at 19th! >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> $1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a >>>>>> >>>> whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can >>>>>> >>>> inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it >>>>>> >>>> with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et >>>>>> >>>> al). >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse >>>>>> >>>> members; not the space we chose to rent. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Land lords are reptiles. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Hack the marketplace! >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream >>>>>> >>>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew >>>>>> >>>> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear >>>>>> >>>> boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants >>>>>> >>>> he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I >>>>>> >>>> have my own share of George stories. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be >>>>>> >>>> proactive in getting him to modify the lease so that we can >>>>>> >>>> all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also >>>>>> >>>> fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with >>>>>> >>>> what his expectation may have been for us, for example having >>>>>> >>>> large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as >>>>>> >>>> I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't >>>>>> >>>> have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary >>>>>> >>>> enforcement of arbitrary rules. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> so we either: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> 1. move >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> or >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> 2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord >>>>>> >>>> are in writing >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> or >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> 3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of >>>>>> >>>> sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as >>>>>> >>>> possible (what we are already doing). >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> --Andrew >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton >>>>>> >>>> <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with >>>>>> >>>>> this guy as landlord? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen >>>>>> >>>>> <yardenack(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano >>>>>> >>>>>> <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not >>>>>> >>>>>>> interacting with him? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual >>>>>> >>>>>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people >>>>>> >>>>>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't want SR to move either. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> >>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507 >>>>>> >>>> http://roshambomedia.com >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>> mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> >>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507 >>>>>> >>> http://roshambomedia.com >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>> mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> >>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss >>>>>> >> mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss >>>>>> > mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>>> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) >>>>>> Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org >>>>>> >>>>>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRdyUdAAoJEOrRfDwkjbpTXi8H/2UGwMrP9/aQmVNy44idEHG1 >>>>>> jrGfxchjIZ+1wH2zwtyEflHjJXPbGtz2+4jkHb32+lLcSFroaGbHGVtJ7ZONzrx6 >>>>>> iHyJ4rDL9pOFy49Y4lwbPacptNBl8f8Wj4OqXtIGaBi4Z8U7EciGaBBeogog2Z45 >>>>>> WN4RCZal3DEyMG1t4Q8OudCmnh5DDWZY+7qIyYQHNC5ItRf1pwLWY37dlfiwJR0B >>>>>> 5qkNQtldDFa808ZTXtEj2oln5u1HFnqNoOFwA30GBFaJUU/w1XBkNaUJntC3tgRf >>>>>> D+sPYolHQs4T0qlUaI6vqnxbgmb4ZN2+I38h9qPr9N+8GVBX35Ckg6UxLxFnvxc= >>>>>> =fQFi >>>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ------- >>>>> Andrew Lowe >>>>> Cell: 831-332-2507 >>>>> http://roshambomedia.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> > > > -- > ------- > Andrew Lowe > Cell: 831-332-2507 > http://roshambomedia.com > >

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Wall hacking v2.0

by Yardena Cohen

We have those four giant light-box-storage things cluttering up the space. A few days ago I started preparing to hang them from the rear wall. I got sort of derailed by drama and uncertainty, but I'm making up my mind to continue acting like this space IS sudoroom until further notice. That said, I need a few strong people to help me finish the job. Anybody up for it? How about tomorrow night before/during/after Hacky Happer Hour? Mostly you will need to hold each one in place while I get the first screw in, and possibly also the second.

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node and other hackers programming in the oakland musem

by Romy Ilano

i resurrect the proposal for a day hacking in a museum. it could be node, it could be python... i'm inspired because i saw a lot of node people doing hacking in the museum in sf. i'd like for us to do it too! ==> problem - museums do cost money. I have a membership and can get people in +1 ... maybe we can go on a free day... but those are crowded? ==> benefits - there's so muchs tuff like the history section of the oakland museum. i could see how this dovetails nicely into the oakland wiki group... how could you NOT be influenced by all the cool stuff going on there? ==> potential solution to money issues - we could buy group tickets or talk to the museum to get a special deal for our starving collective??? <3

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yin and yang of meetings + cleaning

by Romy Ilano

I like meetings but I realized that if many people do not like meetings, then it is partly our fault. yes ,meetings have to get done, but time is precious. i would like to help out with making meetings and cleaning less boring. ray + max have helped out a lot with bringing food, spicing things up! for cleaning of natural decay--i propose we theme these as well. we are theming our hacker happy hour for costume. i am hosting and will wear a personally humiliating cosplay fanime outfit... so why not do this for natural decay? anyone up for a french maid costume natural decay hour? [image: Inline image 1]

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