I want to share some cool apis like the bechdel test with the women coding night (and other coding nights) at noise bridge!
Is it ok to use postman? I haven't done any backend work lately and wonder if there's something open source we could use.
Example:
https://documenter.getpostman.com/view/1417411/UzBgv9nn
Hey I won't be able to make it this coming Monday since I'll be coming back
from a trip. Sorry i had a couple of trips booked before starting this. If
any wnb from this list want to be in charge it’s totally fine! It seems
there's always people at Omni C on Monday evenings, so getting in should
not be an issue.--
julianaferreira(a)gmail.com
The exhaust duct for the laser cutter is definitely not working. I am in
sudoroom with someone who is cutting plain simple wood, and it's killing me.
It's someone I invited to do the cutting so i'm putting up with it but I am
eager to leave and get some fresh air. We definitely need to improve the
ventilation situation somehow.
1. There is definitely leakage around the fan output, spraying smoke into the
room before it even goes into the exhaust duct. It's basically a mass of duct
tape because someone who was very desperate to laser cut stuff to sell on the
street wanted to just throw more tape at the job until it sort of worked. We
need to measure the diameter of the fan output and the diameter of the duct,
and buy the proper adaptor (or 3d print it???)
2. The exhaust duct has holes in it. They have been taped over and I don't
feel any leaks there, but it's definitely something to look for and fix
properly.
3. the interface of the duct to the hole through the skylight is suspect! It
was installed by someone I personally know to sometimes half-ass things (me)
and it has not been inspected since 2014. It's a 1/4" thick piece of wood
that's simply pulled up against the skylight hole and could be leaking there.
We need to go on the roof and check on that.
4. even if all the above are perfect, the smoke will be exiting just above the
skylight and could be very well getting sucked back into the room from the top.
We should build an exhaust stack a few feet high to make sure the fumes
go...away.
I would say that presently the laser cutter's exhaust is so insufficient that
people should not be using it until it's fixed.
-jake
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022, Arthur Ulfeldt via sudo-discuss wrote:
> this is a 12 inch plastic duct. it appears to be sufficiently attached. the
> big hole in the side not notwithstanding ;)
> non conductive ducts don't need grounding.
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 1:23 PM mark burdett <mfburdett(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I found some articles online about laser cutter exhaust and it says check
>> the manufacturer's specs to make sure airflow and pressure is maintained
>> (e.g. use 6" duct if it's too long for 4" to do the job). Use aluminum tape
>> not duct tape for sealing the metal duct (i.e. the stuff you see on HVAC
>> systems which is not duct tape, confusingly) - the duct by the way should
>> be grounded.
>>
>> --mark B.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 11:56 AM Arthur Ulfeldt via sudo-discuss <
>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm reluctant to agree to not work on something until an undefined
>>> condition is met. let's improve this together 😊
>>>
>>> what does better look like, what does good enough look like? is it
>>> already good enough with the repair from last night?
>>>
>>> fre. 10. jun. 2022 11.37 skrev Delta Ark <arikalinowski(a)gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> I'd love to know what you find/what you make of the venting system once
>>>> you take a look at it, could you update us/me when that happens?
>>>>
>>>> Would it also be possible to have a moratorium on using it until the
>>>> venting is checked out/checked off on?
>>>>
>>>> Again, tried to just accomplish some software work there yesterday, but
>>>> it wasn't really possible...
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 12:10 AM Arthur Ulfeldt <arthur(a)ulfeldt.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> next time I'm there I'll try to give the vent a proper fixing if nobody
>>>>> gets to it first.
>>>>>
>>>>> tor. 9. jun. 2022 22.20 skrev Arthur Ulfeldt <arthur(a)ulfeldt.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I arrived at 8:30 and used the laser cutter. (i made a box yay!). i
>>>>>> think i was the second one to use it this evening. before i started i fixed
>>>>>> a big tear in the vent duct with what duct tape i could find. though i
>>>>>> didn't find a roll of it (I'm new here).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it wasn't too smoky as i was using it, though i could still smell it.
>>>>>> if there's more duct tape applied i think it will do wonders for the air
>>>>>> quality. when i arrived, i suspect nearly all the smoke would have been
>>>>>> going into the room.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tor. 9. jun. 2022 21.38 skrev Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <
>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with your assessment and would like to see sufficient
>>>>>>> ventilation implemented. What is the status of the blowers? What is the
>>>>>>> flow rate of fumes through the duct and out of the building?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
>>>>>>> 412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 8:59 PM Delta Ark via sudo-discuss <
>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 👋
>>>>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm starting to work at sudo again (after a very long hiatus)
>>>>>>>> (mostly evenings, 6-12, m-f). I'm currently working on some game,
>>>>>>>> ai and architecture stuff, you can see it here:
>>>>>>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CelEcmAlsaq/ Very pumped to get back in
>>>>>>>> the space and see what people are working on and doing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nonetheless, I have some concerns about the laser cutter. Today, the
>>>>>>>> laser cutter was being used, and, well, it, to my mind, smelled up sudo
>>>>>>>> pretty significantly. I think you could also even smell out in the hall. I
>>>>>>>> guess what I'd like to know is (a.) can we prevent this somehow? and/or
>>>>>>>> (b.) can we have a laser cutter moratorium until we know why this is
>>>>>>>> happening?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could be wrong, but I believe that improper ventilation of a laser
>>>>>>>> cutter can be both long-term toxic and even short term life-threatening (if
>>>>>>>> someone is cutting something really wacky, which I don't think is what was
>>>>>>>> happening today; I think someone was just cutting wood, hopefully not
>>>>>>>> laminated in any weird way).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, yeah, I have to defer to people smarter than me on the
>>>>>>>> above, but something was off today in the way the machine was working (this
>>>>>>>> was about 6pm); and, personally, I found it kind of spooky. Thanks for your
>>>>>>>> thoughts/help/ideas/etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> AK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ari Kalinovski (They/Them)
>>>>>>>> Delta Ark Studios <http://delta.center/>
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>>>>>>>> More options at
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ari Kalinovski (They/Them)
>>>> Delta Ark Studios <http://delta.center/>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>
tonight at sudoroom, i noticed that "the internet" was not working very well,
and my phone was having trouble connecting at all to the wifi. And the signal
strength was very weak.
i tried "the internet" on the desktop computer on the 3d printer table, which
is wired into the ethernet (doesn't use wifi) and since it seemed to work
fine, i determined that something was wrong with the wifi.
i tried power-cycling the ruckus wifi controller (singular rackmount unit that
configures the many wifi access points throughout the building) and I also
power-cycled the main switch (which also powers most of those access points)
but nothing changed.
Then peter and I noticed that the access point in sudoroom (mounted to the wood
high above the wall-mounted TV telescreen) was not lighting up any LEDs on the
switch, indicating that it's not drawing power from the switch or operating at
all. That would explain the weak signal strength.
so I grabbed a black TP-LINK TL-WDR3600 from upstairs, and i configured it
(with the stock firmware) to be an access point on the network.
its IP address is 100.64.64.12 and it doesn't do any routing or dhcp.
email me if you want the login/password.
it provides two accesss points,
sudoroom-TPLINK
and
sudoroom-TPLINK_5
and it seems to work.
the ruckus wifi controller is listed in the Network wiki but nobody knows the
password (the login is probably admin) so we will probably have to
factory-reset the whole system in order to get back in. If anyone makes any
progress on that i would love to know.
the non-functioning ruckus hardware mounted high above the TV in sudoroom is
too high for me to reach, and i'm not motivated enough to get a ladder, and
it's not hurting anybody up there. But if we have more of them maybe we can
install another one so that the Omni Commons network can reach into here again.
But for now, Omni Commons wifi is giving an "authentication error"
-jake
Hello Folks,
Sorry for the late reply, but it's been years now that I stay away from
Google as much as I can.
This address is no longer my main email address, so I don't check it that
often.
I could stop by tomorrow and see what I can do to get the WiFi going.
Someone please Signal me the Network info (Network IP/Prefix, Gateway,
DNS(s)).
I don't have a card|key to access Omni; if the door is closed what should I
do?
I forgot the Sudomesh server area cage's lock code. :(
I am assuming that if cabling tools are needed I should find some there (in
the cage), correct?
I will be arriving there at about noon.
Thanks,
Daniel
Google/Gmail makes me sick.
On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:45 PM Jenny Ryan <omni(a)jennyryan.net> wrote:
> i think we (sudomesh) have a hotspot we can bring by if things are
> broken; lmk
>
> On 6/9/22 13:29, Jake wrote:
> > it's not "off" it SORT OF works i think...but it was unreasonably slow.
> >
> > not sure whether it's an internal network issue like we dealt with a
> > couple of
> > months ago, or a problem with the wifi subsystem itself. The internet
> > and
> > ethernet are working fine.
> >
> > good luck
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022, Yardena Cohen wrote:
> >
> >> Is wifi off everywhere in Omni? We need it for CDP event tonight!
> >> Will try
> >> to investigate this afternoon
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022, 2:04 AM Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The wifi at omni is not working right. It's a centralized system
> >>> donated
> >>> and installed by a sudoroom member who may not be available to work
> >>> on it
> >>> more.
> >>>
> >>> It's a Ruckus WiFi system and the main "controller" is in the server
> >>> rack in
> >>> sudoroom, and it needs to be reconfigured or reflashed or something (we
> >>> don't have the original password so it needs to be factory reset)
> >>>
> >>> here is some information about the hardware we have, a Ruckus
> >>> ZoneDirector:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ruckuswireless.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://github.com/sudoroom/ruckus-zonedirector1100-firmware-upgrade-process
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> it's at this address in the building:
> >>> http://100.64.65.229/admin/login.jsp
> >>>
> >>> -jake
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> building mailing list
> >>> building(a)lists.omnicommons.org
> >>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/building
> >>>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > building mailing list
> > building(a)lists.omnicommons.org
> > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/building
> _______________________________________________
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>
Is wifi off everywhere in Omni? We need it for CDP event tonight! Will try
to investigate this afternoon
On Wed, Jun 8, 2022, 2:04 AM Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> The wifi at omni is not working right. It's a centralized system donated
> and
> installed by a sudoroom member who may not be available to work on it more.
>
> It's a Ruckus WiFi system and the main "controller" is in the server rack
> in
> sudoroom, and it needs to be reconfigured or reflashed or something (we
> don't
> have the original password so it needs to be factory reset)
>
> here is some information about the hardware we have, a Ruckus ZoneDirector:
>
> http://www.ruckuswireless.com/
>
>
> https://github.com/sudoroom/ruckus-zonedirector1100-firmware-upgrade-process
>
> it's at this address in the building:
> http://100.64.65.229/admin/login.jsp
>
> -jake
> _______________________________________________
> building mailing list
> building(a)lists.omnicommons.org
> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/building
>
Is anyone on this list, per-chance, affiliated with Mozilla or knows
someone? A non-profit sci-eco-edu type group I am a part of wants to apply
for a grant with them but needs some connectz.
Thanks,
Cere
Hi everyone,
(You're getting this email either because 1) you're on the sudoroom discuss
email list, or 2) because I BCC'd you directly.) Tonight I'll be hosting
Sudoroom for those who want to come hack on whatever in person, or through
telepresence (see the last link in this email)
ALSO NOW FEATURING: Softwear hacking too: most Tuesday evenings the sewing area
at Omni Commons (adjacent to sudoroom) is also active so bring your fabric and
textile projects and technical repairs; we've got heavy duty and serger sewing
machines available. You’re also welcome to bring your own machine to have it
checked out and tuned up for tip-top operation or to just sew alongside others.
Remember that Omni Commons and Sudoroom policy is presently that EVERYONE MUST
WEAR A MASK AT ALL TIMES INSIDE THE BUILDING. (if you want to eat something
you should go outside)
in the past few weeks, we've had about 5-15 people over the course of the
evening, not including remote participants who logged in through telepresence
Jenny put it on the Omni calendar:
https://omnicommons.org/blog/events/hardware-hack-night-3-2022-03-01/
Here it is on the sudoroom page:
https://sudoroom.org/events/hardware-hack-night-2022-02-15/
that says 7PM but I try to be there soon after 6pm.
if you get to the door (at the corner of 48th and shattuck) and you can't get
in, call me or someone else who's there to let you in! Email me if you don't
have my phone number. Actually a great way to get our attention is to join the
video chat link at the end of this email!
We don't always hear the doorbell and I don't answer it anyway!
You should get on this sudoroom discuss mailinglist! click here:
https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/
and you should donate monthly to sudoroom, monthly, by signing up here:
https://sudoroom.org/humans
and if you want to make a one-time donation, you can go here:
https://sudoroom.org/donate
if you can't make it in person: join the jitsi videochat with the room, and
chat with each other as well as a giant TV screen/speakerphone on the wall:
https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles
(don't worry if you're the only one in the "room", others will join eventually,
and if the camera is pointed at the floor, just yell until someone comes and
talks to you and then ask them to aim it back up into the room)
see you soon!
-jake
Hi everyone,
The weekly meeting is scheduled for tonight at 8 PM. You can join in person
or at
*https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles
<https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles>*
I don't know what's on the agenda, but stop by. There's always stuff to
discuss (plus show and tell!)
If you have anything else to add, feel free to add it to the agenda:
https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroommeeting-keep.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
Hi everyone!
I'm going to be sculpting in Blender on Saturday, June 3 at 12 - 1:30 PM!
Drop by to hang out or learn to sculpt! Any experience (including none) is
fine!
*https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles
<https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles>*
Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
Cheers,
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
That was a great discussion!
I love yar’s nuanced view too. But since I am pro woman I would say - if you are a woman, it’s probably best if you do -not- join a working group/committee or volunteer for stuff. You probably also are better off not doing anything related to teaching or education unless you really really want to.
What the world needs is more smart women building projects and reaching the alpha states. Women and minorities carrying the unnecessary burden or making the world more diverse through endless committees and consensus and meetings are -not- what the world needs. We already have more than enough of those.
Get ye to a room of your own! You do not need to mentor young women or care for kids or teach. Remove yourself from all volunteer and charity committees - these (through religion) are overstaffed with women already. We need -fewer- women doing volunteer work and more women doing raw cool projects to save the world!
(I know this viewpoint is controversial but I’d like to make the world a better place =D)
Since it's hard to meet folks in Person, we are all working from home and stuff, maybe we can all start a bunch of cool online tutorials asynchronously for the community. It always seems to be a demand right?
I'm just throwing it out there - maybe someone in the javascript meetup can start it? I found the Bechdel test movie database has a cool online repo
https://bechdeltest.com/api/v1/doc
Since it's hard to meet folks in Person, we are all working from home and stuff, maybe we can all start a bunch of cool online tutorials asynchronously for the community. It always seems to be a demand right?
I'm just throwing it out there - maybe someone in the javascript meetup can start it? I found the Bechdel test movie database has a cool online repo
https://bechdeltest.com/api/v1/doc
ok NFTs aren't cool or making money anymore! we can talk about them again!
Just kidding, (actually I'm not), but Jake did make a good point that NFTs aren't ecological.
I was involved in the early days of NFT (d'oh) since I live here. I'm interested in jump starting any kind of digital printmaking, online or in person art gallery through SudoRoom for the common good! It's a topic brewing, but whew, thankfully nobody is making money on NFTs anymore.
ok NFTs aren't cool or making money anymore! we can talk about them again!
Just kidding, (actually I'm not), but Jake did make a good point that NFTs aren't ecological.
I was involved in the early days of NFT (d'oh) since I live here. I'm interested in jump starting any kind of digital printmaking, online or in person art gallery through SudoRoom for the common good! It's a topic brewing, but whew, thankfully nobody is making money on NFTs anymore.
the other day when Fitz was there I remembered some of the tricks needed to get
our monster Yaskawa robot to work.
I made some updates to the wiki.
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Giant_robot_arm
Here are some pictures:
https://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2022-05/robot.html
we replaced the battery in the robot arm (behind the connectors in the base,
this battery is to preserve memory in the position encoders) and the battery in
the computer cabinet (to preserve its configuration memory and "disk" when it's off)
but a couple of the position encoders on the arm are not happy and it's doing
this:
https://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2022-05/20220531_205803.jpg
although sometimes it doesn't even get that far.
Anyone interested in learning how to get this machine going? I don't want to
be the only one who knows
-jake
Does anyone on this list want an ergonomic keyboard? It doesn't belong at
Sudoroom but is worth something to the right person.
https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/
take it and make a donation! or tell a friend! or just take it.
it's cluttering the space
-jake
I have some thoughts about helping new members get up and running at SudoRoom.
- I haven't been participating in discussions as much as I could have because I get everything in a big email summary. It's hard to see when people are replying to me, I guess over the years I forgot there's an easy web panel board. Maybe we could link to this more directly?
https://sudoroom.org/lists/hyperkitty/list/sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org/
- Helping out women and non binary folks
Over the years people have asked me to help get more women and cool people get involved in hackerspaces. This is a noble cause, but a lot of the approaches like celebrating diversity etc. might not be the right approach for hackers and nerds. How do you get more women and minorities and hackerspaces while keeping the spirit of the hack? It's quite complicated, true, because SudoRoom is not for everybody.
There was a time when there were a lot of brogrammers working on startups who were interested in joining. They were not interested in any social good causes or making the world a better place - I think they were looking more for something like WeWork, and that was fine! Maybe they could join a "tech incubator space"
At the same time there has been a cool drive to get more minorities and women into tech spaces. I think this is very cool! It's obviously "complicated", with so many social and class and gender structures going on. I've seen a lot of these initiatives, and there are some easy wins that nobody can deny that mostly focus on:
(A) People trying to break into tech to get a good job that pays well. These initiatives have a lot of corporate and branding pep talks. They have their place, and we definitely want to help people learn to fish so they can fulfill their basic needs. These kinds of initiatives involve a lot of interview training, career development initiatives, and basic intro to coding or git courses. I should know because as a self taught programmer I participated in these, and I benefitted a ton from these!
The downside to career-focused tech diversity causes is that they focus on money and careers. We all know that the obvious money and career topics are actually not the best choices for people who are truly interested on creating and learning about programming. Even for long term career growth you want people who want to learn programming, not just how to build websites on Ruby on Rails and javascript shopping ecarts.
(B) Initiatives around teaching local youth to get into tech or workshops to tutor kids. Who can argue against these? It's very feel good.
The only downside with teaching and volunteering with kids is that the pressure is heavily set upon women in tech to lead these, and I personally don't think there is anything about women that makes them more appropriate for taking care of kids or teaching them. Also, societally we need more male or trans folks to teach kids for diversity as education below the university level is heavily skewed to females.
So if SudoRoom wants to tackle the diversity topic, I think we have to find a more unique way to do this. (A) careers for minorities breaking into tech and (B) educating women are well served by people outside of hackerspaces. (A) and (B) are not what SudoRoom is particularly great at, and I do not see how most people can become their best hacker doing either (A) or (B) when they are not suited to it.
We also come to one of Omni Commons' greatest weaknesses - a love for administration and endless meetings. I know it's the nature of the space, but I'd like to help get people who are hackers to come and hack here without having to get involved in endless meetings and discussions. A hackerspace should provide an environment in which hackers can come, socialize but also reach their ideal flow state and creativity. If people are going to a lot of administrative meetings, are coordinating meetups, or hyping other hackerspaces in red states in the United States, that doesn't leave them the opportunity to develop themselves as hackers and create and add to the vibe of the space. (It is also extremely irresponsible to hype any place in a red state at this time, or tell any hackers it is a good idea to move there, especially women or anyone who has a woman in their family. Women are literally getting prosecuted for murder for having miscarriages! oh my!)
OK so this was all long winded but the gist of it is:
Let's try to get the diversity ball rolling in hackerspaces in a non obvious way, something different from the diversity non profit complex. Let's help people get ramped up and into the flow state. Let's free women from the obligation of volunteering to educate kids or do noncreative work. Let's make complex technical projects easy to understand and ramp up on, and not cage women and minorities into endless beginner's projects in the name of making technology more accessible for all. There are many ways to make things better, and one of those ways is being the best hacker you want to be!
Hi everyone,
The weekly meeting is scheduled for tonight at 8 PM. You can join in person
or at
*https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles
<https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles>*
I don't know what's on the agenda, but stop by. There's always stuff to
discuss (plus show and tell!)
If you have anything else to add, feel free to add it to the agenda:
https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroommeeting-keep.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
Hi! I'm thinking of starting a Blender learn together meetup/online Course. Ideally this should be during a weekly or semimonthly/biweekly night (not even sure).
What would be cool is if we made tutorials that were very SudoRoom specific, such as constructing a 3D model of the SudoRoom space, or creating a SudoRoom logo in 3 dimensions. Also, this would be a cool way to get video editing and the light projection stuff wrapped up into the SudoRoom projects!
Dear Sudoroom,
As delegate I have to represent the interests of the sudoroom membership on
issues that affect everyone. I haven't got a lot of responses to other
proposals i've put forward.
I want to remind everyone that the best way to stay involved with omni-wide
decisions is to join the consensus email list, and even attend delegates'
meetings if you like. They're open to everyone.
Below is a proposal to let the events booking group have a fund made from money
that events bring in, that they can make use of with less supervision, in the
interests of improving the process of putting on events. It's an important
moneymaking group at Omni and I trust them to do a good job with it.
If nobody objects then i'll say Sudoroom is in favor of this proposal.
-jake
sudoroom's delegate to the omni commons
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 15:21:57 -0700
From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>
To: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org>
Cc: consensus <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
Subject: Re: [omni-consensus] Fwd: Proposed budget process for the events team
Yes, ideally all collective members would take an active interest in
every detail of Omni's operations.
In practice, the delegates often have to use their own judgement to
figure out which things need to be escalated to the status of a "full
community-wide proposal" and which things are just minor operational
changes which fall reasonably within the parameters of prior consensus
decisions. That's the balance we've struck in our own pragmatic mix of
direct vs representative democracy. I would welcome proposals to add
more clear structure around this. Tbh this proposal is my attempt at
creating some structure which solves some of that problem.
I am not a delegate and I don't really care either way. I just want
other folks to consider it, and the consensus list is the place to
start those conversations.
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 3:07 PM Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
>
> Is this not a proposal that delegates need to put before their collectives? Or
> do the delegates have the ability to decide on their own? I don't understand.
>
> -jake
>
> On Tue, 31 May 2022, Yardena Cohen wrote:
>
>> I would like the delegates to consider this proposal. Instead of event
>> income going directly to omni's general funds, the events team would
>> get its own bank account, make regular transfers of $6k/mo (when
>> available) to omni checking, and keep any surplus as an independent
>> operating budget. The events team would decide what to do with this
>> budget. What do you all think?
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, May 26, 2022 at 8:15 AM
>> Subject: Proposed budget process for the events team
>> To: events at omni <events(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, finance
>> <finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
>>
>>
>> Hey all, I'd like to float an idea for you all. What if the events
>> team had its own money and could set its own budget? My idea is that:
>>
>> * events wg gets its own bank account
>> * all event income goes into that account
>> * all event expenses come from that account
>> * events wg can make its own internal/autonomous decisions about who
>> gets access to that account and how money comes/goes (as long as
>> decisions are transparent and standard 501c3 rules are followed)
>> * events wg makes a regular transfer of $6k each month to omni's general funds
>> * beyond that, all funds are kept by the event wg
>>
>> I think that, over time, this bank account would grow, and the events
>> group would be able to do great things with it. This would hopefully
>> lead to less micromanaging from the delegates / the rest of the omni
>> community and remove some pressure by setting clear and finite
>> expectations. Decisions about work should be made by the people doing
>> the work. Leftover money could also be used to pay stipends to enable
>> more people to do work who aren't independently wealthy.
>>
>> What do you all think of this idea?
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Hi everyone,
you're getting this email either because you're on the sudoroom discuss email
list, or because I BCC'd you directly. Tonight I'll be hosting Sudoroom for
those who want to come hack on whatever in person, or through telepresence of
any means you can invoke.
Remember that Omni Commons and Sudoroom policy is presently that
EVERYONE MUST WEAR A MASK AT ALL TIMES INSIDE THE BUILDING.
(if you want to eat something you should go outside)
in case you didn't know, there is definitely a covid surge happening right now
in the past few weeks, we've had about 5-15 people over the course of the
evening, not including remote participants who logged in through the
telescreen (linked last in this email)
Jenny put it on the Omni calendar:
https://omnicommons.org/blog/events/hardware-hack-night-3-2022-03-01/
Here it is on the sudoroom page:
https://sudoroom.org/events/hardware-hack-night-2022-02-15/
that says 7PM but I try to be there soon after 6pm.
if you get to the door (at the corner of 48th and shattuck) and you can't get
in, call me or someone else who's there to let you in! Email me if you don't
have my phone number. Actually a great way to get our attention is to join the
video chat link at the end of this email!
We don't always hear the doorbell and I don't answer it after 10PM anyway
because of diminishing returns :)
You should get on this sudoroom discuss mailinglist! click here:
https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/
and you should donate to sudoroom, monthly, by signing up here:
https://sudoroom.org/humans
and if you want to make a one-time donation, you can go here:
https://sudoroom.org/donate
if you can't make it, join the jitsi videochat with the room, and chat with
each other as well as a giant TV screen/speakerphone on the wall of the space:
https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles
(don't worry if you're the only one in the "room", others will join eventually,
and if the camera is pointed at the floor, just yell until someone comes and
talks to you and then ask them to aim it back up into the room)
see you soon!
-jake
Dear Sudoroom,
Tonight I will not make it to Hardware Hacking Tuesday but I suspect people
will probably be there, although i haven't seen any announcements.
This email is a reminder that we need to discuss the BOGSS proposal at the
Sudoroom meeting tomorrow night, and figure out what questions and/or
amendments we want to send our delegate (me) to the Delegates' meeting on
Thursday.
People have already said things about it, both directly to me and publicly, and
I have my own amendments to propose, and we can talk about all of those
tomorrow night. I know everyone is busy (I am too!) but this is a pretty
important issue for Omni that we need to engage with as much as possible.
-jake
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 20:56:02 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Sudoroom,
Today I voted in behalf of Sudoroom in favor of the MOP proposal, and they are
now a member collective of Omni Commons. I emailed about them on April 20th
but didn't hear anything back, so I hope everyone is okay with that decision.
Today a proposal was introduced for a new committee to be formed at Omni
Commons to value and protect the safety and interests of BIPOC/Non-Men.
this is the original proposal in PDF form:
https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/attachments/20220505/ab900701/a…
this is an editable "cryptpad" and
we are requested to "please leave comments in red"
https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/edit/6IhZqwyXxN6CrEvtiljmnqTa/
actually this is a cryptpad copy of their document just for sudoroom, and I
will forward our discussion to Rafiq to integrate our input.
Other collectives are asking questions too, so if you want to be more engaged
in the discussion, please join the [omni-consensus] list! But definitely make
discussion here in the sudoroom list and get engaged.
If Sudoroom members have concerns or objections, we need to communicate them
promptly and work toward agreeable amedments. It is not an option to simply
reject the proposal, but rather if you have specific concerns then we need to
work with each other to address those concerns and come up with something
agreeable.
-jake
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>
Hey all, I'm boosting this email with a new subject line so that it's
clear to readers - this contains an important new proposal!!!
Brief summary: this proposal forms a congress of BIPOC and non-men
from all Omni's groups, who then elect a small committee which has its
own seat on the board, its own delegate, and a few specific powers
related to addressing racism and sexism. This is an important step
towards making omni representative and accountable! This finally
begins to put our Statement of Solidarity into action!
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: rafiq.ali <rafiq.ali(a)protonmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 5, 2022 at 12:16 PM
To: <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
I added a little note at the beginning on our proposal and the events
from 2 weeks ago. Happy to provide a short statement. In general, I
appreciate the apologies made and think this can be a growing
opportunity to forge a stronger collective. If it's possible, we can
open discussion on the proposal this week if enough delegates have had
a chance to review with the idea of approving at the next delegate
meeting (or worst case, the one after).
As mentioned earlier, we are proposing the creation of a safe space
Committee (see attached). We appreciate and accept all
feedback/comments/concerns.
In struggle,
Rafiq
CLP