i still think that if sudoroom managed the a/v aspect of event rentals &
omni kept the general rent from same, not much would functionally change.
all the working groups would be omni's & delegates would still make the
decisions.
sudoroom would merely handle the a/v side (which we currently contract out
to trained members)
most of the a/v stuff is sudoroom's anyway
several sudo members are willing to start an a/v training program
instead of splitting the building in half, we could split rentals...omni
gets the space rental/sudo gets the a/v contracts which, if part of an
educational program, will be considered charitable.
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> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:05:22 -0700
> Subject: [omni-discuss] Buy the building report back thread
> Everyone,
>
> At the delegates meeting we discussed the proposal to buy the building by
> creating a tenants in common agreement between Omni Commons and one member
> collective that is a 501c3. Please see the proposal and additional
> information on the pad (pad.riseup.net/p/omninom) if you didn't see it
> before.
>
> We agreed to update each other at least once a week on the progress of
> discussions in the collectives and the development of the contracts. This
> is the thread where we will put our updates.
>
> Everyone is welcome to attend the Finance/fundraising working group
> meeting at 6pm on Mondays to get more information or raise any
> concerns/questions.
>
> Laura
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
> To: Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net>
> Cc: "consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:34:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: [omni-discuss] [omni-consensus] Buy the building report back
> thread
> Thanks Laura,
>
> One thing I didn't understand about the two-non-profit idea was whether
> this was just a temporary fix, and eventually the ownership of the building
> would be with the Omni, or whether the building will be shared in
> perpetuity between the Omni and Sudo.
>
> If this is intended to be a permanent arrangement, I would greatly prefer
> setting up a new 501(c)3 just for the purpose of receiving the donation,
> even if that might take a bit longer to arrange.
>
> Patrik
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> Everyone,
>>
>> At the delegates meeting we discussed the proposal to buy the building by
>> creating a tenants in common agreement between Omni Commons and one member
>> collective that is a 501c3. Please see the proposal and additional
>> information on the pad (pad.riseup.net/p/omninom) if you didn't see it
>> before.
>>
>> We agreed to update each other at least once a week on the progress of
>> discussions in the collectives and the development of the contracts. This
>> is the thread where we will put our updates.
>>
>> Everyone is welcome to attend the Finance/fundraising working group
>> meeting at 6pm on Mondays to get more information or raise any
>> concerns/questions.
>>
>> Laura
>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: "consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 01:49:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: [omni-discuss] [omni-consensus] Buy the building report back
> thread
> Replying all primarily for those I just subscribed who signed up for the
> mailing list at the end of the meeting - apologies! Your thoughts welcome
> and appreciated ~
>
> Jenny
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> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
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>> Thanks Laura,
>>
>> One thing I didn't understand about the two-non-profit idea was whether
>> this was just a temporary fix, and eventually the ownership of the building
>> would be with the Omni, or whether the building will be shared in
>> perpetuity between the Omni and Sudo.
>>
>> If this is intended to be a permanent arrangement, I would greatly prefer
>> setting up a new 501(c)3 just for the purpose of receiving the donation,
>> even if that might take a bit longer to arrange.
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Everyone,
>>>
>>> At the delegates meeting we discussed the proposal to buy the building
>>> by creating a tenants in common agreement between Omni Commons and one
>>> member collective that is a 501c3. Please see the proposal and additional
>>> information on the pad (pad.riseup.net/p/omninom) if you didn't see it
>>> before.
>>>
>>> We agreed to update each other at least once a week on the progress of
>>> discussions in the collectives and the development of the contracts. This
>>> is the thread where we will put our updates.
>>>
>>> Everyone is welcome to attend the Finance/fundraising working group
>>> meeting at 6pm on Mondays to get more information or raise any
>>> concerns/questions.
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>
> To: Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net>
> Cc: "consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 09:05:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: [omni-discuss] [omni-consensus] Buy the building report back
> thread
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> > pad.riseup.net/p/omninom
>
> Hi all, I'm really sorry I'm not more involved right now and very much
> appreciate all the work that's being done to make this project work! I
> have some questions about this proposal...
> * Why can't the donor just wait until January? Do they really need
> that 2016 write-off?
> * Would it work to create a new project that's fiscally sponsored by a
> 501c3? (like Sudo, CCL, FNB)
> * Maybe we should get a second legal opinion on ways to make this
> work. Anyone know a good accountant?
>
> I don't know any behind-the-scenes info, but it seems like this would
> fundamentally change how power works at Omni. Right now anybody in the
> community can come to a delegates meeting or this list to voice their
> concerns about use of space, but under this scheme, half the building
> would be off limits. For instance, there's been a proposal to have a
> co-working space in the basement, and some people have been blocking
> consensus for a while because of their concerns. If hypothetically,
> Sudoroom's 50% included the basement, there would be no way for people
> to have any say. I'm not saying I'm for or against Marcus's plan, but
> if there is strong opposition to it, it seems like a good thing that
> people have a chance to talk it through rather than be forced to
> accept it.
>
> I would most like to hear from people who aren't Sudoroom members in
> this conversation, because it seems they would have the most to lose.
> I hope the fiscal urgency - and our desire to be polite to our
> hard-working friends - doesn't overshadow questions about values and
> power. I hope nobody feels pressured to keep quiet during this
> process. That could do a lot of damage to the community.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mary Ann Tenuto <cezmat(a)igc.org>
> To: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: "consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <finance(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:47:36 -0700
> Subject: Re: [omni-discuss] [omni-consensus] Buy the building report back
> thread
> I’m inclined to share some of Patrik’s and Yar’s feelings. I think it’s at
> least worth exploring/researching
> the option of another nonprofit, which I believe was Option D in our
> meeting with Jesse. Since time is
> of the essence, that would need to be an important first part of the
> exploration/research.
>
> Mary Ann
>
> > On Oct 7, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> >> pad.riseup.net/p/omninom
> >
> > Hi all, I'm really sorry I'm not more involved right now and very much
> > appreciate all the work that's being done to make this project work! I
> > have some questions about this proposal...
> > * Why can't the donor just wait until January? Do they really need
> > that 2016 write-off?
> > * Would it work to create a new project that's fiscally sponsored by a
> > 501c3? (like Sudo, CCL, FNB)
> > * Maybe we should get a second legal opinion on ways to make this
> > work. Anyone know a good accountant?
> >
> > I don't know any behind-the-scenes info, but it seems like this would
> > fundamentally change how power works at Omni. Right now anybody in the
> > community can come to a delegates meeting or this list to voice their
> > concerns about use of space, but under this scheme, half the building
> > would be off limits. For instance, there's been a proposal to have a
> > co-working space in the basement, and some people have been blocking
> > consensus for a while because of their concerns. If hypothetically,
> > Sudoroom's 50% included the basement, there would be no way for people
> > to have any say. I'm not saying I'm for or against Marcus's plan, but
> > if there is strong opposition to it, it seems like a good thing that
> > people have a chance to talk it through rather than be forced to
> > accept it.
> >
> > I would most like to hear from people who aren't Sudoroom members in
> > this conversation, because it seems they would have the most to lose.
> > I hope the fiscal urgency - and our desire to be polite to our
> > hard-working friends - doesn't overshadow questions about values and
> > power. I hope nobody feels pressured to keep quiet during this
> > process. That could do a lot of damage to the community.
> > _______________________________________________
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i wish to invite you all to a meeting after this wed sudo meeting to
discuss the viability of starting an open source curriculum based open
source hardware/software a/v institute.
ideas so far:
pcb fabrication series
dmx rgb led/laser projects
analog circuit noisemakers
vlc, open broadcaster, ardour3, lmms, pd, mapmap, blender, etc. tutorials
a/v events as opportunities to teach one on one
soundboard & dmx lightboard certifications for using house equipment
liberated lens collaboration
video/sound studios available at reduced rate for creative commons licensed
material
teacher compensation?
if you can't make it & are interested plz respond in this thread or to me
directly
thank you
~r
i'm getting free training at owhstudios.tv on video production/broadcast
(they're aiming to open Oakand's public access cable channel).
one the organizers there asked me if i had a hdmi projector they could
borrow for a presentation they're giving next wednesday
does anyone object to me taking sudo's white hdmi projector to owhstudios
on tuesday & picking it up on thursday?
i'll buy a new one (probably led) if anything happens to it
additionally, they've shown an interest in helping us setup a video
production studio here if anyone is interested
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: beehappysolutions <beehappysolutions(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] selling soap chopper on craigslist
> Date: October 5, 2016 at 8:40:33 PM PDT
> To: robb <sf99er(a)gmail.com>
>
> There is a store in berkeley that sells soap supplies - I could drive it over there and see if they could sell it to one of their customers. Also I am on a homesteading list and I could ask there.
>
> Alice
>
>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:35 PM, robb <sf99er(a)gmail.com <mailto:sf99er@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> we're gonna put it on ebay for local pickup only to reach a larger audience if it doesn't go on cl
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk <mailto:juul@labitat.dk>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org <mailto:jake@spaz.org>> wrote:
>> we have this stupid "soap chopper" or whatever it is, taking up space in sudoroom.
>>
>> i think we should put it on craigslist.
>>
>> I will do that now. I will accept $50 for it if they pick it up. If you object to this, please speak up and take the thing out of sudoroom.
>>
>> http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2016-10/20161004_234637.jpg <http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2016-10/20161004_234637.jpg>
>> http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2016-10/20161004_234646.jpg <http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2016-10/20161004_234646.jpg>
>> http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2016-10/20161004_234654.jpg <http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2016-10/20161004_234654.jpg>
>>
>> Well $50 feels low for something that probably cost $500+ new but i can't find it online anywhere nor a device very much like it so eh, I guess that's ok if no-one speaks up soon.
>>
>>
>>
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Bella is the one on the right - with the limp right ear
Adorable Yorkshire Terrier Available /Adoption <https://lorindistrict.nextdoor.com/news_feed/?post=33609436>
Bella will turn 3 years old in spring of 2017. Her life expectancy is 15+ years. She is a pure bread Yorkie with long legs and a floppy right ear. She is house broken. She is so sweet with people and children. Bella weighs about 10 lbs. Eats 1/3 cup "Hunden Flocken” dry dog food mixed with chicken scrap & hot water once daily. Bella is good on a leash when we go for walks and she relieves herself in out back yard. Her poops resemble marbles - firm to pick up.
I'm looking for a good local home, so I can stay in touch, help if you want to go out of town with boarding and will offer free biweekly grooming/ bathing if you adopt her.
She would be a perfect first dog for a family with small children. She seems fine with cats & chickens. I do think she catches rats in our back yard - but that could be our other dog. I've had dogs my whole life and I'm happy to teach you how to care for a dog if it is your first time.
I paid quite a lot for her 1 year ago. There will be a rehoming fee to adopt her.
I love Bella and don't want to give her up but her frisky aggression toward our other dog is not conducive to peaceful living. I Have been looking for an experienced animal aggression behaviorist but haven't heard back after leaving lots of messages. My husband and 11 yr old son "had it" a while ago and I have to say I'm at the end of my rope.
She is a sweet sweet dog and I wish I could keep her so if you are an expert level dog behaviorist or trainer - your advice is welcome. When I adopted Bella the CL post said "she must be an only dog" and now I understand why. I though I could change her but I made a mistake.
If you are interested in adopting Bella as an only dog or can help break her aggression toward our other dog please call me, Alice 415-272-0596
i think we got two polycom conference ip phones last night
i was going to install one in the basement meeting room that just got
painted
anyone know where they went?
Hi I need some help printing out a couple of parts for a syringe pump that
allows me to extrude my biopolymers. I tried my hand at it but no luck it was
good for the first couple of layers but soon got warped and didn't look right.
The pegasus horses is amazing if I could get that kind of quality that would
awesome!
anyone want to sell their old camcorder to liberated lens?
they're about to buy some for their upcoming classes &
i thought maybe someone on this list may have one or some.
i think they're just trying to avoid dvcam tape
thx
Dear Sudo Room,
Here's your invoice! We appreciate your prompt payment.
Thanks for stewarding the commons!
Omni Oakland
------------------------ Invoice Summary --------------------------
Invoice # : 1490
Invoice Date: 10/15/2016
Due Date: 10/25/2016
Terms: Net 10
Amount Due: $2,446.00
The complete version has been provided as an attachment to this email.
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