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Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 6, Issue 8

by Cyrus Farivar

As a dues-paying member—can/do I automatically have 24/7 access? -C -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) On Thursday, April 4, 2013 at 1:18 PM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: TIL: Hacking Sexual Health (Rick Karnesky) > 2. new sudoroom dues survey: google forms edition (not reply to > list) (Max Klein) > 3. Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] Frontend Web Development, April > 15: FIRST CLASS of the new series! (Naomi Most) > 4. Re: new sudoroom dues survey: google forms edition (not reply > to list) (Marina Kukso) > 5. Re: TIL: Hacking Sexual Health: Resistant bugs generally. > (Anon195714) > 6. Re: new sudoroom dues survey: google forms edition (not reply > to list) (Anon195714) > 7. Re: TIL: Hacking Sexual Health (aestetix) > 8. Re: Survey on Money at the space(please reply to this) > (rusty lindgren) > 9. Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how? > (rusty lindgren) > 10. Re: Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how? > (Anon195714) > 11. Re: Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how? > (Yardena Cohen) > 12. Re: Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how? > (Sonja Trauss) > 13. Re: Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how? > (Marina Kukso) > 14. Re: TIL: Hacking Sexual Health (Romy Ilano) > 15. Re: Help with dinner tonight? (WAS: Food and the absence > therein) (Hol Gaskill) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 10:12:05 -0700 > From: Rick Karnesky <karnesky(a)gmail.com (mailto:karnesky@gmail.com)> > To: Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com (mailto:vknoxsironi@gmail.com)> > Cc: Sudo Room discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TIL: Hacking Sexual Health > Message-ID: <515DB465.4050806(a)gmail.com (mailto:515DB465.4050806@gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > A few leads on the topic, courtesy of Bart Bernhardt (who had answered a > call for ideas on a broader subject for Valentine's Day this year). Kyle > and people from AE did a show-and-tell for the Commonwealth Club > > --- > > "- Kyle Machulis is a whip-smart brash software engineer who, on the > side, blogs about teleldildonics (using haptic and telecommunications > technology to facilitate long-distance sex), DIY sex toys, and other > mash-ups of sex and tech. He's really fun. http://slashdong.org/ > > - Long, long ago, the Exploratorium Biology dept had an exhibit that was > something like "The Olfaction of Attraction" and had little squeeze > bottles with human pheromones in them. Depending on your genes and > gender, you may find the smell either repulsive or attractive. This > would make a great interactive station. It's fantastic seeing two > people, one with a look of disgust and the other with a pleased smile, > trying to reconcile their different perceptions. > > - The Archaeology of Vice. Kari Jones and Liz Clevinger work in the > archaeology programs at the Presidio of San Francisco. Among the things > unearthed? Well, the archeological record suggests that, shockingly, > soldiers stationed there liked sex, based on the wide range of vintage > porn, prophylactics, and medically-dubious STD cures dug up in the > Presidio." > > --Rick > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:16:05 -0700 > From: Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com (mailto:isalix@gmail.com)> > To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > Subject: [sudo-discuss] new sudoroom dues survey: google forms edition > (not reply to list) > Message-ID: > <CAKbmofivqmzFQQJz3Hyf2Bwg_+1uO2iMif6z1bHjRnAHUJFXow(a)mail.gmail.com (mailto:CAKbmofivqmzFQQJz3Hyf2Bwg_+1uO2iMif6z1bHjRnAHUJFXow@mail.gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I know we all love Google like a relative (that won't leave us alone about > our private lives), but it seems like a good idea to use their "Forms" for > this survey > > IF you've already replied to list: > don't worry about refilling it out, I'll migrate responses > ELSE: > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WmLrkg0tmFf3Ny66IyCmyMfqLc43MzhyQlgEs_dtaU… > > IF interested in revamping questions: > form is openly editable > > Max >

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Help with dinner tonight? (WAS: Food and the absence therein)

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

Ive been making soups in the crockpot and can continue doing the same. I left miso and greens in the fridge, another stop at Koreana Plaza for rice noodles, oyster mushrooms, green onion, and tofu should do. Feel free to grab other things for a soup too. The trick is to heat up the crockpot with a bit of water or soup base, then use the water boiler above the sink for the boiling. Basically a simple hotspot, nothing needs more than a 10 minutes of hot water to cook. // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Yardena Cohen" <yardenack(a)gmail.com> To: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Help with dinner tonight? (WAS: Food and the absence therein) Date: Wed, Apr 3, 2013 3:41 PM On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Raymond Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote: > My fellow Sudoers, I am not feeling well and will not be able to make the > meeting tonight. I wish I could say there are leftovers in the fridge. :( Thanks so much for all your work Ray! If anybody else would like to collaborate on food tonight, I'd love to help! I can contribute time, car, buying ingredients, chopping skills, and following directions, in exchange for your contribution of leadership. :) :) :) _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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Re: [sudo-discuss] TIL: Hacking Sexual Health

by Romy Ilano

This is a great idea! In the 1990s I used to go to some punk rock feminist women's health talks. One session had us doing self-examinations using speculums with mirrors. I'd like to throw that into the "stone soup" of a mix! http://www.fwhc.org/health/selfcare.htm - I'm unsure how comfortable most women would be doing self-examinations in front of men. - Using speculums and mirrors was very informative! I never realized how most women are taught to think of their privates as dirty--so much so to the point that they didn't know how their lady parts worked!

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Instant 24/7 access? Do we allow for this? And how?

by Yardena Cohen

(Rusty: sorry for the double e-mail) On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:56 AM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Basically, it's easy for us to think "hey, we should let this person have > access, because they seem cool, and we want to remain open," but even I get > sketched out at night sometimes, and there are real safety issues at work > here, and we should discuss them in relation to cost/benefits for the space. > It's also entirely possible that we trust someone, and they just do > something bad anyway. We don't really spend a lot of time thinking about > this, but this is something we haven't had to really deal with yet, because > we've had really shitty access up until now. Honestly I'm not comfortable linking access to payment, for a lot of reasons, but I'll try to outline the most salient thing for me right now: * I don't think access means anything if a person can't feel safe here * I don't feel safe when I'm at the space all alone * I feel even better when I'm sharing the space with multiple people who I know and trust * Our goal should be for the space to be full of known & trusted people -- if not always, then as much as possible * It would be silly to turn anybody away at that point So my goal day in and day out is to look for ways to expand Sudoroom's web of trust - not just get people to the space, not just facilitate and encourage them giving money to the space, but helping them feel happy and comfortable and like they could be a part of a community, and that coming here will give them a chance to hack awesome things, work on their projects, get inspired for new projects. I'm open to solutions in the form of rules and algorithms, but I'm skeptical of any solutions that seem to close doors (literally & figuratively) because Sudoroom and hackerspaces in general are so new and experimental. The scepter of an untrusted person being alone in the space is important, but I honestly don't see a good reliable antidote other than "add more trusted people." Safety in numbers.

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Survey on Money at the space(please reply to this)

by rusty lindgren

Hey Everyone, I am writing because it was discussed at the meeting tonight that we don't really have an idea of how much people want to pay for the space ,and also if people think the current payment approach is good based on some alternatives that were brought up. I'd also like to ask about basic productizing to see if people would be interested in using some of our funds to get t-shirts and stickers, and maybe even decorated key-cards like hacker conferences do for hotel rooms. So, can everyone answer these questions(below)? I know it's not perfect research, but I think it covers most of what came up in the meeting. Questions: 1. How much would you pay for current membership, with access as planned? 2. How much would you pay for current membership with 24/7 access to the space(i.e. new door cards on next payment)? 3. Would you be okay with spending some money on re-branding of the space(even if it doesn't mean changing our logo), by getting more t-shirts and stickers? 4. Do you think it would it be more attractive to you to have a lower fixed price if you were joining the space, and you got 24/7 access at that moment with a keycard? 5. Would it be more attractive to you if you were joining the space, and you got a free t-shirt and cool looking keycard upon joining or giving some sort of donation "gift" like kickstarter projects give? This is only an attempt to get at some of what we talked about, and I'm hoping that it will kind of shine some light on the amount of money people want to pay et all. Please help out! -- Cheers, Rusty Lindgren **

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Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] Frontend Web Development, April 15: FIRST CLASS of the new series!

by Naomi Most

This is a very good class, always full. Very good for beginners and doesn't stop at HTML/CSS/js. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:19 PM Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Frontend Web Development, April 15: FIRST CLASS of the new series! To: "noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net" < noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net>, noisebridge-announce(a)lists.noisebridge.net, webdev(a)lists.noisebridge.net I'm taking a week's break and returning April 15! Learn HTML, CSS and JavaScript - and put them to good use! This weekly lecture series, taught by Jeffrey Carl Faden, is aimed at complete beginners who are interested in making websites, as well as seasoned professionals looking to brush up on the latest and greatest. Frontend web development is all about making code that runs in the browser (versus code that runs on the server). There isn't a big focus on web design (creating wireframes and mockups), but we do cover best practices for turning these designs into beautiful code. This is the first class of a new series of classes. If you or your friends been waiting to jump in from the very beginning, this is the class to take - so spread the word. We'll cover the very basics: - Explaining "frontend" vs. "backend" - Discussing tools of the trade - Explaining the separation between structure, presentation, and behavior - Writing a basic HTML page - Styling the page with basic CSS - Explaining the role of frontend web development as a job and career The class starts on Monday, April 15 at 8pm, and goes until 10pm! Plan to arrive EARLY, as the class will probably fill up very fast. If you can't make it to this week's lecture, you can watch a live video stream of the class. Join this Google+ Event to be notified of when to hop on: *https://plus.google.com/events/cgs3kmasqdu7f7s7i644i5f7e9g* This video stream will also be available to watch after the class is complete. This class and the space in which it's taught are entirely free to attend. Please bring a laptop. Read all of the details here: https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Frontend_Web_Development Jeffrey _______________________________________________ Noisebridge-discuss mailing list Noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss -- Naomi Theora Most naomi(a)nthmost.com +1-415-728-7490 skype: nthmost http://twitter.com/nthmost

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Re: [sudo-discuss] TIL: Hacking Sexual Health

by Vicky Knox

WOW. OK, where to start? First off: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_4 Table of Contents @Masturbation Lib and Teledildonics @Men @Gonorrhea @Sudo Room Donations @Community Infrastructure @Masturbation Liberation and Teledildonics: Anon195's ideas are amaaaazing! I've been fascinated by teledildonics ever since I heard of the existence of Ted Nelson. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledildonics> < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nelson> The closest thing to that that I've run into via the hackerspaces has been the Dongiverse, which is cool except that I wouldn't want a sharp, porous plastic dong up any of my orifices. <http://dongiverse.com/> Maybe a class field trip to Arse Elektronica 2013? (AE is an annual SF sex and technology event/conference/thingy.) Or how about getting in touch with their organizers to see if they'd like to collaborate on a workshop? Ooh ideas! <http://www.monochrom.at/arse-elektronika/> Masturbation liberation: Fuck yeah! I think this should be its own TIL and I'm ready to make it happen. Wanna chose a date, Anon195? Or would you like to wait on that until we talk more and/or contact our contacts (such as AE)? **So who's got the teledildonics connection? @Men: Would there be any interest in formulating a men's meetup to talk about, you know, stuff? @Gonorrhea: I think the greatest workshops I've ever been to have been variety hours. It's absolutely lovely and fascinating to have educational interludes, kind of like exploring Wikipedia's intertwingularity (see Ted Nelson article). May 4th is reserved! Does anyone else have an educational interlude they'd like to add to Hacking Menstruation? @Sudo Room Donations: These events are the perfect opportunity for us to pounce upon unsuspecting donors. Please reach far and wide into your networks to advertise this. I'll send a follow-up reminder! @Community infrastructure: A random hack of kindness will soon be making its way toward Sudo Room. 2013/4/4 Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> > excellent. > > i think this also presents an excellent opportunity for discussing what > kind of (light) infrastructure would facilitate reproductive and sexual > health at the space - very basic stuff, tampons etc., but also community > infrastructure - are we living up to our goal of being inclusive by > providing options in both the physical and community dimensions of the > space that allow everyone to feel at home. everyone should be a part of > this discussion and i would love to speak more with women, queer folks, > people of all stripes about it. > > - marina > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Craig Rouskey <craigrouskey(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> I would be down to talk about Gonorrhea and plug our program to eradicate >> the antibiotic resistant strains! May 4 th >> — >> Sent from Mailbox <https://bit.ly/SZvoJe> for iPhone >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Yo's- >>> >>> Re. "What does it mean to hack sexual health...?" >>> >>> Here's one example. For years I've had a slogan I tell people >>> (typically guys) whose sex drive is on overdrive to the point where it >>> warps their attitude toward others (typically gals): >>> >>> "Masturbate and keep your objectivity." >>> >>> 70% of guys "admit" that they play with themselves, and the other 30% >>> are lying. Yet the hypocrisy around this subject is just astounding, and >>> the result is that physical needs become conflated with social attitudes >>> and generate oppression of self and oppression of others. >>> >>> Envision a culture where relationships are based on partners feeding >>> each other (as in, holding the forks and spoons full of food up to each >>> others' mouths during a meal) instead of on people having sex with each >>> other. People would run around frantically seeking partners because >>> otherwise they'd either have to feed themselves (oh!, the embarrassment!) >>> or go hungry and die. >>> >>> That's where our culture is about sex. It's crazy. >>> >>> So I'd suggest "masturbation liberation" as a sexuality hacking topic. >>> >>> It even has major potential for cybernetic devices and interfaces and >>> online communication enhancements. >>> >>> "Did you try building the new Orgasmatron?" >>> >>> "Yeah. The interface works pretty well, but there's a bug in the code, >>> so I patched it. Wanna' download my version, see what you think?" >>> >>> Later.... "Hey, your version's a lot better than the original. Now I >>> was thinking, the interface could be improved. Here, I'll make one for you >>> on the 3D printer." >>> >>> "Oh, cool, yeah I like your CAD diagram, I think it'll work, so go ahead >>> and print one for me..." >>> >>> Here's another potential topic: >>> >>> Chastity belts for men in cultures that oppress women (for example by >>> making women wear oppressive shapeless garments from head to toe, that >>> barely leave enough of an opening for their eyes to see the world). >>> >>> Even one decent prototype would stir up a bunch of publicity about the >>> subject, and hopefully generate some embarrassment on the part of men whose >>> answer to their own weaknesses is to oppress women. "Stop the problem at >>> its source: the dirty minds of men!" >>> >>> OK, enough for one night;-) >>> >>> -G. >>> >>> >>> ===== >>> >>> >>> On 13-04-04-Thu 12:18 AM, Vicky Knox wrote: >>> >>> Tonight during the general meeting I proposed the Today I Learned event >>> "Hacking Sexual Health". I'd like to open up the floor to multiple >>> facilitators interested in this topic area to help me lead either one TIL >>> workshop, or a series of workshops if there is sufficient excitement. >>> Hacking Sexual Health is intended for sexual and asexual people alike. >>> >>> So what does it mean to hack sexual health? Ruminate on it. :] >>> >>> My personal interest is hacking menstruation. I'd like to lead a >>> workshop for creating cloth pads out of recycled clothing. The workshop is >>> intended both for people who menstruate and for people who have friends who >>> menstruate (and want to make them lovely presents!). We will go over >>> different lady product options and have fun cost-comparisons for different >>> products and unproducts. >>> >>> I will be reserving either April 27th or May 4th upon consulting my >>> secretary. :P >>> >>> Please contact me if you are interested in developing your own workshop >>> or helping me to facilitate menstruation hacking! >>> >>> ykciV >>> >>> PS: Clothing hackers, you know who you are! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing listsudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.orghttp://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >

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about the future (Alan Kay)

by J Clark

Wondered if some sudoers might be interested in this video, with awesome-smart guy Alan Kay and Vishal Sikka of SAP, hosted by futurist guy Paul Saffo. 3.26.13 Technology and Transformation: Vishal Sikka and Alan Kay in Conversation with Paul Saffo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPsZyfGCaKs Ah, tropes, memes, symbols, and change. hurrah! Also on the Alan Kay theme, a written interview: An Interview with Computing Pioneer Alan Kay By David Greelish April 02 2013 <http://techland.time.com/2013/04/02/an-interview-with-computing-pioneer-ala…> Born in 1940, computer scientist Alan Curtis Kay is one of a handful of visionaries most responsible for the concepts which have propelled personal computing forward over the past thirty years — and surely the most quotable one. He’s the man who said that “The best way to predict the future is to invent it” and that “Technology is anything that wasn’t around when you were born” and that “If you don’t fail at least 90 percent of the time, you’re not aiming high enough.” And when I first saw Microsoft‘s Surface tablet last June, a Kay maxim helped me understand it: “People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware.” Above all, however, Kay is known for the Dynabook — his decades-old vision of a portable suite of hardware, software, programming tools and services which would add up to the ultimate creative environment for kids of all ages. Every modern portable computer reflects elements of the Dynabook concept — the One Laptop Per Child project’s XO above all others — and yet none of them have fully realized the concept which Kay was writing about in the early 1970s. Actually, Kay says that some gadgets with superficial Dynabook-like qualities, such as the iPad, have not only failed to realize the Dynabook dream, but have in some senses betrayed it. That’s one of the points he makes in this interview, conducted by computer historian David Greelish, proprietor of the Classic Computing Blog and organizer of this month’s Vintage Computer Festival Southeast in Atlanta. (The Festival will feature a pop-up Apple museum featuring Xerox’s groundbreaking Alto workstation, which Kay worked on, as well as devices which deeply reflected his influence, including the Lisa, the original Macintosh and the Newton.) Kay and Greelish also discuss Kay’s experiences at some of the big outfits where he’s worked, including Xerox’s fabled PARC labs, Apple, Disney and HP. Today, Kay continues his research about children and technology at his own organization, the Viewpoints Research Institute. –Harry McCracken David Greelish: Do you agree that we now essentially have the Dynabook, as expressed in the three tiers of modern personal computing; the notebook, tablet and smartphone? If not, what critical features do you see missing from these? Have they delivered on the promise of improving education? Alan Kay: I have been asked versions of this question for the last twenty years or so. Ninety-five percent of the Dynabook idea was a “service conception,” and five percent had to do with physical forms, of which only one — the slim notebook — is generally in the public view. (The other two were an extrapolated version of Ivan Sutherland’s head mounted display, and an extrapolated version of Nicholas Negroponte’s ideas about ubiquitous computers embedded and networked everywhere.) [snip]

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Help with dinner tonight? (WAS: Food and the absence therein)

by Yardena Cohen

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Raymond Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote: > My fellow Sudoers, I am not feeling well and will not be able to make the > meeting tonight. I wish I could say there are leftovers in the fridge. :( Thanks so much for all your work Ray! If anybody else would like to collaborate on food tonight, I'd love to help! I can contribute time, car, buying ingredients, chopping skills, and following directions, in exchange for your contribution of leadership. :) :) :)

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Food and the absence therein

by Raymond Lai

My fellow Sudoers, I am not feeling well and will not be able to make the meeting tonight. I wish I could say there are leftovers in the fridge. :( Cheers, ray

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