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Fwd: URGENT TO ALL TENANTS!!! First Friday Tomorrow Night....URGENT....PLEASE READ CAREFULLY

by Jenny Ryan

Notice from the landlord regarding tomorrow's First Friday event and new guidelines posted by the City of Oakland. TL;DR: -Laurie and George (the landlords) are asking that meetings disperse by 11pm, and that all doors be locked. -OPD will be setting up a mobile command post on Telegraph & W Grand -No First Friday events allowed south of W Grand -Event ends at 9pm with a moment of silence ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:17 PM Subject: URGENT TO ALL TENANTS!!! First Friday Tomorrow Night....URGENT....PLEASE READ CAREFULLY To: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/how-the-black-bloc-occupied-oakland/Co ntent?oid=3036670 The flier above (pdf) are guidelines for tomorrow night's First Friday Event in lieu of expected potential violence from the group listed in the web site above. Apparently at sites (unknown to me) this black bloc group has been advocating that people come out en mass and cause trouble after First Friday is over. We are asking that groups meeting in the building disburse by 11pm and that all doors, esp. doors to Broadway, 22nd Street and the Alley behind out of 2135, as well as the gate into the front entrance of 2135, be securely locked by this time. George will be there at that time to convince all to leave the building and he will secure it. Groups or individuals not adhering to this warning and coming back to the building after that time may find themselves responsible not only for damages to their persons but damage done to the building or others. This is a serious issue; even the Security Ambassadors are being asked to go home by midnight for their own personal safety, and there is no expectation that the police will have enough personnel on the streets should this get out of hand. Many of you were not there a few years ago during the (Oscar Grant) riots....it was not pretty, and there WAS damage to our property. Trouble is NOT expected early in the evening. Enjoy yourselves, but try to monitor alcohol consumption (your own and those around you) for the safety of all tomorrow evening...and get home early....and SAFELY! Laurie & George

11 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 212

by Cyrus Farivar

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/oakland-mayor-apologizes-for-pro… -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 1:16 PM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 211 (Cyrus Farivar) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:16:44 -0800 > From: Cyrus Farivar <cfarivar(a)gmail.com (mailto:cfarivar@gmail.com)> > To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 211 > Message-ID: <058F1A7272C64F069631C24D0A06989C(a)gmail.com (mailto:058F1A7272C64F069631C24D0A06989C@gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Matt, can I quote you in the piece? > > -- > Cyrus Farivar > "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" > > Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) > Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) > US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar > "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." > cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 1:15 PM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) wrote: > > > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 208 (J.D. Zamfirescu) > > 2. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Matthew D. Howell) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:12:42 -0800 > > From: "J.D. Zamfirescu" <zamfire(a)gmail.com (mailto:zamfire@gmail.com)> > > To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com)> > > Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 208 > > Message-ID: > > <CAO5ydeE3UzKM27HvXKLfGpoHBpRHmi7K8sd47evaGq8_d4HD4A(a)mail.gmail.com (mailto:CAO5ydeE3UzKM27HvXKLfGpoHBpRHmi7K8sd47evaGq8_d4HD4A@mail.gmail.com)> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > Agreed with Matt. As TOOOL says, understanding how locks work (and what > > their vulnerabilities are) helps everyone make smarter decisions about > > physical security. > > > > Might be worth mentioning that very few burglaries involve picked locks; > > it's too easy to throw a brick through a window instead. > > > > Also, for the record, the workshop is full at 20 participants. > > > > J.D. > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > > Hey Cyrus, > > > > > > I think putting lock-picking in a larger context (up to globally) will > > > help folks understand that this is a helpful and inquisitive practice that, > > > for instance, helps improve security through experience and knowledge of > > > security systems like locks. This statement is obvious to the security / > > > hacker community, but not obvious to many others. For me personally, when I > > > was living in a student cooperative, I needed to unlock a filing cabinet I > > > bought used that came without a key. I watched a Youtube video of a > > > 14-year-old who showed me how to do it with (I believe something like) an > > > aluminum can and a paperclip. That was very helpful, and also exposed me to > > > the reality that simple locks provide a nominal layer of security (just > > > pulling open), but almost always have available exploits. I wouldn't put > > > things I wanted to keep completely secure in that filing cabinet--but I > > > would put things I didn't want to easily walk away. > > > > > > That being said, it is also important to note that this is one (I believe > > > ~30 people, sold out) of many workshops to be held over the weekend in > > > Oakland for http://workshopweekend.net/, and one of many events that > > > happen at sudo room. Sudo-hosted events range from coding meetups > > > http://www.meetup.com/EBJavaScript/ and informal learning sessions > > > http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned to local community organizing > > > http://communitydemocracyproject.org/ and nerds who care about the > > > environment http://nerdsfornature.org/. See more on our calendar > > > http://sudoroom.org/calendar/ and come down this Friday during Art > > > Murmur. > > > > > > // Matt > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Cyrus Farivar <cfarivar(a)gmail.com (mailto:cfarivar@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > > > > FWIW?I'm in the process right now of writing up a short brief on > > > > the whole thing for Ars Technica, and am pointing out how lock picking has > > > > long been a part of hacker culture. If you have a statement, I can > > > > include/add it. > > > > > > > > -C > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Cyrus Farivar > > > > "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" > > > > > > > > Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) > > > > Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) > > > > US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar > > > > "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the > > > > Internet." > > > > cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) > > > > > > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM, > > > > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) wrote: > > > > > > > > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > 1. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > > > > 2. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > > > > 3. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > > > > 4. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > > > > 5. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Shawn Lesniak) > > > > 6. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (mark burdett) > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:22:20 -0800 > > > > From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net (mailto:eddan@clear.net)> > > > > To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class > > > > Message-ID: <512FA05C.7070407(a)clear.net (mailto:512FA05C.7070407@clear.net)> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > > > > > > > It would be worth our while for someone to draft a short statement that > > > > can be posted on the Workshop Weekend website or as a Sudo Room blog > > > > post. I'd be willing to help if someone did a first draft. So lame of > > > > Jean Quan to not even look into it. > > > > > > > > In sum, I think there are two major elements to committing a crime - the > > > > act itself and the intent. In order to have both, you need knowledge. > > > > There's nothing in here about the socially positive reasons why you'd > > > > want to teach that. Take the common experience everyone can relate to of > > > > locking yourself out of your house, car, office, etc.. People need to > > > > know how to pick locks most certainly in circumstances that are > > > > authorized and often in the case of an emergency. We may want to clarify > > > > that in regards to intent - we have the opposite motivation to teach > > > > people these skills. It will go a long way to explicitly say that we by > > > > no means condone the use of those skills for criminal purposes. > > > > > > > > We should post it and send it directly to the authors of the articles > > > > before the end of the day, so that a further story can be written about > > > > it. May also want to notify Susan Mernit @ Oakland Local to get a little > > > > more fair and balanced reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/27/13 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote: > > > > > > > > more: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-q… > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com) > > > > <mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com)>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > It's awesome, free press! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren > > > > <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com <mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com<rustylindgren(a)gmail.com (mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com)>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh dear gawd. This is possibly the most moronic piece of > > > > "journalism" I have ever seen. > > > > > > > > Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to a lock-picking > > > > school(actually it teaches you way more), and that this is > > > > just a cheaper version of that? (see: > > > > http://www.lock411.com/training.html). > > > > > > > > Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves skilled > > > > lock-picking, because it's a waste of time. > > > > > > > > Don't worry though, you can train in deadly martial arts, go > > > > to the shooting range, and buy ninja swords just about > > > > anywhere in Oakland, but picking a Masterlock is "appalling". > > > > > > > > -Rusty > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca Mosoiu > > > > <anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com <anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com)>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that > > > > people are learning how to pick locks this weekend. > > > > > > > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047 > > > > > > > > Here is Oakland Local's response: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning… > > > > > > > > Anca > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -=-=-=- > > > > Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal > > > > anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com <anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com)>> > > > > M: (510) 220-6660 <tel:%28510%29%20220-6660> > > > > http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: > > > > facebook.com/techliminal <http://facebook.com/techliminal> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org<sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Rusty Lindgren > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org<sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org<sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > >

11 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 211

by Cyrus Farivar

Matt, can I quote you in the piece? -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 1:15 PM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 208 (J.D. Zamfirescu) > 2. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Matthew D. Howell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:12:42 -0800 > From: "J.D. Zamfirescu" <zamfire(a)gmail.com (mailto:zamfire@gmail.com)> > To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com)> > Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 208 > Message-ID: > <CAO5ydeE3UzKM27HvXKLfGpoHBpRHmi7K8sd47evaGq8_d4HD4A(a)mail.gmail.com (mailto:CAO5ydeE3UzKM27HvXKLfGpoHBpRHmi7K8sd47evaGq8_d4HD4A@mail.gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Agreed with Matt. As TOOOL says, understanding how locks work (and what > their vulnerabilities are) helps everyone make smarter decisions about > physical security. > > Might be worth mentioning that very few burglaries involve picked locks; > it's too easy to throw a brick through a window instead. > > Also, for the record, the workshop is full at 20 participants. > > J.D. > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > Hey Cyrus, > > > > I think putting lock-picking in a larger context (up to globally) will > > help folks understand that this is a helpful and inquisitive practice that, > > for instance, helps improve security through experience and knowledge of > > security systems like locks. This statement is obvious to the security / > > hacker community, but not obvious to many others. For me personally, when I > > was living in a student cooperative, I needed to unlock a filing cabinet I > > bought used that came without a key. I watched a Youtube video of a > > 14-year-old who showed me how to do it with (I believe something like) an > > aluminum can and a paperclip. That was very helpful, and also exposed me to > > the reality that simple locks provide a nominal layer of security (just > > pulling open), but almost always have available exploits. I wouldn't put > > things I wanted to keep completely secure in that filing cabinet--but I > > would put things I didn't want to easily walk away. > > > > That being said, it is also important to note that this is one (I believe > > ~30 people, sold out) of many workshops to be held over the weekend in > > Oakland for http://workshopweekend.net/, and one of many events that > > happen at sudo room. Sudo-hosted events range from coding meetups > > http://www.meetup.com/EBJavaScript/ and informal learning sessions > > http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned to local community organizing > > http://communitydemocracyproject.org/ and nerds who care about the > > environment http://nerdsfornature.org/. See more on our calendar > > http://sudoroom.org/calendar/ and come down this Friday during Art > > Murmur. > > > > // Matt > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Cyrus Farivar <cfarivar(a)gmail.com (mailto:cfarivar@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > > FWIW?I'm in the process right now of writing up a short brief on > > > the whole thing for Ars Technica, and am pointing out how lock picking has > > > long been a part of hacker culture. If you have a statement, I can > > > include/add it. > > > > > > -C > > > > > > -- > > > Cyrus Farivar > > > "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" > > > > > > Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) > > > Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) > > > US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar > > > "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the > > > Internet." > > > cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) > > > > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM, > > > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) wrote: > > > > > > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > > > 2. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > > > 3. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > > > 4. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > > > 5. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Shawn Lesniak) > > > 6. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (mark burdett) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:22:20 -0800 > > > From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net (mailto:eddan@clear.net)> > > > To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class > > > Message-ID: <512FA05C.7070407(a)clear.net (mailto:512FA05C.7070407@clear.net)> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > > > > > It would be worth our while for someone to draft a short statement that > > > can be posted on the Workshop Weekend website or as a Sudo Room blog > > > post. I'd be willing to help if someone did a first draft. So lame of > > > Jean Quan to not even look into it. > > > > > > In sum, I think there are two major elements to committing a crime - the > > > act itself and the intent. In order to have both, you need knowledge. > > > There's nothing in here about the socially positive reasons why you'd > > > want to teach that. Take the common experience everyone can relate to of > > > locking yourself out of your house, car, office, etc.. People need to > > > know how to pick locks most certainly in circumstances that are > > > authorized and often in the case of an emergency. We may want to clarify > > > that in regards to intent - we have the opposite motivation to teach > > > people these skills. It will go a long way to explicitly say that we by > > > no means condone the use of those skills for criminal purposes. > > > > > > We should post it and send it directly to the authors of the articles > > > before the end of the day, so that a further story can be written about > > > it. May also want to notify Susan Mernit @ Oakland Local to get a little > > > more fair and balanced reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/27/13 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote: > > > > > > more: > > > > > > > > > http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-q… > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com) > > > <mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com)>>> wrote: > > > > > > It's awesome, free press! > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren > > > <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com <mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com<rustylindgren(a)gmail.com (mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com)>>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Oh dear gawd. This is possibly the most moronic piece of > > > "journalism" I have ever seen. > > > > > > Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to a lock-picking > > > school(actually it teaches you way more), and that this is > > > just a cheaper version of that? (see: > > > http://www.lock411.com/training.html). > > > > > > Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves skilled > > > lock-picking, because it's a waste of time. > > > > > > Don't worry though, you can train in deadly martial arts, go > > > to the shooting range, and buy ninja swords just about > > > anywhere in Oakland, but picking a Masterlock is "appalling". > > > > > > -Rusty > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca Mosoiu > > > <anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com <anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com)>>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that > > > people are learning how to pick locks this weekend. > > > > > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047 > > > > > > Here is Oakland Local's response: > > > > > > > > > http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning… > > > > > > Anca > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -=-=-=- > > > Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal > > > anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com <anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com)>> > > > M: (510) 220-6660 <tel:%28510%29%20220-6660> > > > http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: > > > facebook.com/techliminal <http://facebook.com/techliminal> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org<sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rusty Lindgren > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org<sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org<sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > >

11 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 208

by Cyrus Farivar

FWIW—I'm in the process right now of writing up a short brief on the whole thing for Ars Technica, and am pointing out how lock picking has long been a part of hacker culture. If you have a statement, I can include/add it. -C -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > 2. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > 3. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > 4. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Eddan Katz) > 5. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Shawn Lesniak) > 6. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (mark burdett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:22:20 -0800 > From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net (mailto:eddan@clear.net)> > To: sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class > Message-ID: <512FA05C.7070407(a)clear.net (mailto:512FA05C.7070407@clear.net)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > It would be worth our while for someone to draft a short statement that > can be posted on the Workshop Weekend website or as a Sudo Room blog > post. I'd be willing to help if someone did a first draft. So lame of > Jean Quan to not even look into it. > > In sum, I think there are two major elements to committing a crime - the > act itself and the intent. In order to have both, you need knowledge. > There's nothing in here about the socially positive reasons why you'd > want to teach that. Take the common experience everyone can relate to of > locking yourself out of your house, car, office, etc.. People need to > know how to pick locks most certainly in circumstances that are > authorized and often in the case of an emergency. We may want to clarify > that in regards to intent - we have the opposite motivation to teach > people these skills. It will go a long way to explicitly say that we by > no means condone the use of those skills for criminal purposes. > > We should post it and send it directly to the authors of the articles > before the end of the day, so that a further story can be written about > it. May also want to notify Susan Mernit @ Oakland Local to get a little > more fair and balanced reporting. > > > > On 2/27/13 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote: > > more: > > > > http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-q… > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com) > > <mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > It's awesome, free press! > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren > > <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com <mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Oh dear gawd. This is possibly the most moronic piece of > > "journalism" I have ever seen. > > > > Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to a lock-picking > > school(actually it teaches you way more), and that this is > > just a cheaper version of that? (see: > > http://www.lock411.com/training.html). > > > > Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves skilled > > lock-picking, because it's a waste of time. > > > > Don't worry though, you can train in deadly martial arts, go > > to the shooting range, and buy ninja swords just about > > anywhere in Oakland, but picking a Masterlock is "appalling". > > > > -Rusty > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca Mosoiu > > <anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that > > people are learning how to pick locks this weekend. > > > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047 > > > > Here is Oakland Local's response: > > > > http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning… > > > > Anca > > > > > > -- > > -=-=-=- > > Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal > > anca(a)techliminal.com <mailto:anca@techliminal.com> > > M: (510) 220-6660 <tel:%28510%29%20220-6660> > > http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: > > facebook.com/techliminal <http://facebook.com/techliminal> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > Rusty Lindgren > > ** > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > <mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org> > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > >

11 years, 10 months

Sudo Room Signage

by Eddan Katz

We should put up signage for Sudo Room on the Broadway side of the building. We've already asked George about whether it would be OK to put it on the arched awning above the 2141 Broadway door and have the go ahead. Apparently, if we use the same white on blue format, there are no additional costs. Other colored designs would require Sudo room being registered with the city & have to take part in paying for insurance for the building (albeit proportional). Does anyone have the tools necessary to make the stencil? Anyone up for painting over the stencil in the bear future? In fact, if it's trivial to do - might make sense to try and get it done by Art Murmur tomorrow night. sent from eddan.com

11 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 206

by Cyrus Farivar

FWIW, the Trib's reporter's email is: martz(a)bayareanewsgroup.com And no, I don't know him. :-) -C -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (J.D. Zamfirescu) > 2. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anthony Di Franco) > 3. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > 4. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Shawn Lesniak) > 5. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > 6. Membership dues - payment options! (Tommy York) > 7. Sudo Room Signage (Eddan Katz) > 8. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (rusty lindgren) > 9. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (rusty lindgren) > 10. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (hep) > 11. Re: FUD around Lockpicking class (Anon195714) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:31:37 -0800 > From: "J.D. Zamfirescu" <zamfire(a)gmail.com (mailto:zamfire@gmail.com)> > To: Tommy York <tommy.york(a)gmail.com (mailto:tommy.york@gmail.com)> > Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)> > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class > Message-ID: > <CAO5ydeEuoT1g2+9orFpy+MN-j9smLfDBeSEQysW976AtFCDBCg(a)mail.gmail.com (mailto:CAO5ydeEuoT1g2+9orFpy+MN-j9smLfDBeSEQysW976AtFCDBCg@mail.gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I called the OPD today to get stats on how many break-ins involve picked > locks. The woman I spoke with was entirely unhelpful, saying something > along the lines of "all break-in methods are comparably common". > > Google searches suggest that ~5-10% of burglaries nationally involve picked > locks. > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Tommy York <tommy.york(a)gmail.com (mailto:tommy.york@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > "OAKLAND -- One skill that appears all too common in Oakland these days > > is the ability to pick a lock. Burglaries jumped more than 40 percent last > > year, and not all of them involved window smashes." > > > > This is a horrific excuse for journalism. Not all burglaries involved > > window smashes? Oh really? And in that case, how many involved skilled lock > > picking? > > > > Mencken would be angry. > > > > - tommy > > ----------------- > > Thomas Riley York (???) 510.926.0510 > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu <zamfire(a)gmail.com (mailto:zamfire@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > > more: > > > > > > > > > http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-q… > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com (mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com)>wrote: > > > > > > > It's awesome, free press! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com (mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com) > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh dear gawd. This is possibly the most moronic piece of "journalism" > > > > > I have ever seen. > > > > > > > > > > Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to a lock-picking > > > > > school(actually it teaches you way more), and that this is just a cheaper > > > > > version of that? (see: http://www.lock411.com/training.html). > > > > > > > > > > Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves skilled lock-picking, > > > > > because it's a waste of time. > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry though, you can train in deadly martial arts, go to the > > > > > shooting range, and buy ninja swords just about anywhere in Oakland, but > > > > > picking a Masterlock is "appalling". > > > > > > > > > > -Rusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca Mosoiu <anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com)>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that people are > > > > > > learning how to pick locks this weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047 > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is Oakland Local's response: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning… > > > > > > > > > > > > Anca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -=-=-=- > > > > > > Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal > > > > > > anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com) > > > > > > M: (510) 220-6660 > > > > > > http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: facebook.com/techliminal (http://facebook.com/techliminal) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Rusty Lindgren > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sudo-discuss mailing list > > > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > > > > >

11 years, 10 months

Membership dues - payment options!

by Tommy York

Hey everyone, Please pay membership dues when you get a chance. I updated the WePay campaign page, so you can again donate money / pay membership dues (with a new total in the percentage widget covering February actual and projected March), and can collect checks whenever you see me. I live two blocks away, so I'm more than happy to just run over if I'm not getting anything done. At the moment, I'm trying to collect all the payment information, so I can develop a member list for February. Paying in advance for March is always nice too. I think we'll be starting a sudo-fund - another, separate sub-listserv - soon, which will discuss ideas for funding Sudoroom. Projects, processes, the like. Unrelated, a DJ'd set by one of the founders of Throbbing Gristle: https://soundcloud.com/ninja-tune/solid-steel-radio-show-15-2 - Tommy ----------------- Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork

11 years, 10 months

Fwd: 3/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway

by Matthew Senate

apologies, attachment should be included, also in HTML: Statement The Sudo Room (2141art) 2141 Broadway, Oakland CA 94612 Date Description Charges Payments Balance Balance Forward 0.00 03/01/13 Rent (03/2013) 1,500.00 1,500.00 03/01/13 PG&E (03/2013) 168.34 1,668.34 Current 30 Days 60 Days 90 Days Amount Due 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1,668.34 Page 1/1/97 12:00 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM Subject: 3/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway To: exchequer(a)sudoroom.org Cc: eddan(a)eddan.com, mattsenate(a)gmail.com Hi All- Attached please find The Sudo Room invoice for March. Thank you! Laurie

11 years, 10 months

FUD around Lockpicking class

by Anca Mosoiu

Hi everyone, Heads up. Looks like some folks aren't too happy that people are learning how to pick locks this weekend. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047 Here is Oakland Local's response: http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning… Anca -- -=-=-=- Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal anca(a)techliminal.com M: (510) 220-6660 http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: facebook.com/techliminal

11 years, 10 months

Fwd: [Longfellow Community Association & Friends] Mayor Quan is getting some serious flak for...

by Marina Kukso

workshop weekend scandal! see the offending newsletter here: http://jeanquan.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/State-of-City-Wednesday-Firs… please enjoy a wide variety of workshop weekend events this weekend at sudo room and tech liminal: http://workshopweekend.net/ - marina PS - i am only a member of the longfellow community association list for purely oakland wiki research reasons - not a longfellow myself. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Leslie Cleaver Wood <notification+f_969oo9(a)facebookmail.com> Date: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:07 PM Subject: [Longfellow Community Association & Friends] Mayor Quan is getting some serious flak for... To: Longfellow Community Association & Friends < longfellowcommunityassociation(a)groups.facebook.com> ** Leslie Cleaver Wood posted in Longfellow Community Association & Friends<http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2Flongfellowcommunityassociation%2Fpermal…> [image: Mayor Quan is getting some serious flak for...]<http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=601808270&mid=798c723G13df94G897a…>Leslie Cleaver Wood<http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=601808270&mid=798c723G13df94G897a…>7:07pm Feb 27 Mayor Quan is getting some serious flak for promoting a lock picking workshop in her newsletter. Apparently, you even get a free lock picking kit when you finish! What are your thoughts? Here is the workshop: https://workshopweekend.net/catalog#workshop-lockpicking<http://www.facebook.com/l/OAQGhQDZc/https%3A%2F%2Fworkshopweekend.net%2Fcat…> <http://www.facebook.com/l/fAQHU1j1bAQFgQbKtH9AivOTn0B0aZQj5OnZObDek-QiXmA/h…>Workshop Weekend : Catalog of Workshops<http://www.facebook.com/l/NAQHWnkjAAQEKRBufWc3Ono_VyqmFLl4V6ZTHd2qMjRUxew/h…> workshopweekend.net<http://www.facebook.com/l/NAQHWnkjAAQEKRBufWc3Ono_VyqmFLl4V6ZTHd2qMjRUxew/h…> Workshop Weekend is a weekend-long event of short, 1 to 3 hour long workshops in subjects from explo... View Post on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2Flongfellowcommunityassociation%2Fpermal…>· Edit Email Settings<http://www.facebook.com/n/?settings&tab=notifications&section=group_notific…>· Reply to this email to add a comment.

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