15 May
2015
15 May
'15
6:18 p.m.
Also, there's a really obvious answer to this fear of cliques.
Show up to meetings.
All members have blocking power. Yay consensus.
If you're unhappy with a proposal that was passed, make a counter-proposal.
Nothing is set in stone. sudo's policies can change very quickly. We're not
waterfall; we're agile. It's better to deploy our changes regularly,
knowing we can further build on these features than make sure they're
perfect when the race starts.
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Ryan <yandoryn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Quorum takes 10 people. I really don't consider
that a small group.
I personally think that voting creates a tyranny of the majority which
inherently oppresses minority groups. In a democracy, minorities have to
hope for the benevolence of the majority to deign to stoop down low enough
to recognize them as people.
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I would be wary, sudo, of how few people it
already takes to have quorum,
and if that changes...
A small clique of friends can be at a meeting, and make decisions for all
of sudo.
It's a broken system.
Our leaders can either say
"there's the power, don't give it to anyone, let's split it
consciously"
or
"where's the power? i don't see it"
the latter is falsity in my opinion, it deters you from taking any
the former is truth.
I think 1-vote-per-member; remotely solicited when live-vote isn't
possible, is a much sounder way of representing the opinions and needs of
many people.
to my eyes, consensus seems to be closer to high school social dynamics
than a step in political evolution. i'm definitely disillusioned about
consensus after seeing this project.
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:30 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
:)
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote:
--
<3 Rachel
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On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> My question is whose idea was this in the first place?
>
It was this guy:
http://i.imgur.com/qmPKJHh.gif
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