5 May
2013
5 May
'13
10:22 a.m.
+1
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
I respect that Matt! It's always best to solve
problems without money.
I think it would be wonderfully ironic if people were hacking in python
and not getting paid, which fetches far more on the market of an hourly
wage than cleaning does.
- We are all wonderful, lovable people. But we are better at starting
projects, writing, cooking food, buying beer, and so on than picking up
after ourselves. I just don't think it's terribly realistic to think that a
hackerspace will have people who rock at cleaning.
- Maybe tonight can prove me wrong! =D
In an ideal world, people who clean would get an honorable wage. It is
dirty work, it's rough.
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM, mattsenate(a)gmail.com <
mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Cleaning is life. But even if each of us tried
our best to clean up after
ourselves, there will be aggregated filth, incrementally built, plus the
cost of natural shuffling, displacement--such is the burden of use and
optimization! I think we should:
Communicate more clearly the necessary standards for common space.
Provide all event holders with a checklist for set up and break down
Clean up after ourselves and each other collaboratively
Recognize that some additional amount of cleaning is required and
therefore create good systems for cleaning natural, aggregate mess.*
* my personal politics hope we can do this specific type of work without
direct financial incentive.
// Matt
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From: "Gregg Horton" <greggahorton(a)gmail.com>
To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>
Cc: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] should we hire someone to clean up after events?
Date: Sun, May 5, 2013 9:48 AM
I think we should hire a fellow sudoer and use the cash as incentive.
Whoever wishes to do it that month can.
Or people can learn how to pick up after themselves.
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
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SudoRoom is a hackerspace. Our skillset is not
cleaning, especially
cleaning the big main room.
*- Should we put aside $30-60 every time a group holds an event in our
space so that we can pay someone to clean up the common room?*
*- Should we pay someone $30-60 once month to clean the common room
for us?*
I brought this up because we are realistically not going to get a lot of
members to clean the space. we are hackers. it is not our skillset. There
is not going to be a magical day when a hackerspace finds that all of its
members find cleaning to be a pleasurable act.
We are good at starting projects, drinking beer, looking for new spaces,
but we are definitely not great at cleaning.
Our landlord G is also receptive to the idea of us hiring someone to
clean up the common room after big events.
I personally suck at cleaning, I'm into doing it, but I would rather
spend my time hacking and working on projects. I spent a bit of time
cleaning up the space Saturday morning, wiping down the tables int he main
room and vacuuming to prepare the space for the today I learned.
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