25 Aug
2015
25 Aug
'15
2:44 p.m.
at the risk of this sounding preachy (it's 100% not intended as such,
but it's hard to convey tone / emotion in text) one of the biggest
contributors in helping pull noisebridge back together was implementing
access control coupled with using the 86 page to effectively document
those who were asked to leave the space.
I realise given the physical layout of both the OMNI and sudo in
particular that any amount of physical access control might be a lot
more difficult (multiple entrances to both the OMNI and sudoroom, and
all the various routes between the rooms in the OMNI) but maybe it's
worth exploring?
a really neat side effect of access control is that all new visitors to
the space interact with someone on arrival, with the cultural
expectation on their host giving them a tour and explaining everything
about the space and its ethos.
lurking in #sudoroom it seems that there is some sort of card system at
the moment? sudobot pipes up occasionally about folks being swiped into
the building. I haven't been to the OMNI since this was put in place,
but is this a card swipe system at the main front entrance?
</$0.02>
p
Jake:
i think we need to work on more practical and
effective ways to keep the
space free of banned persons at all times.
what can people do when a banned person repeatedly returns whenever they
feel like they can get in? there are no consequences for trying.
I know that we do not call police for these types of issues, but what
about telling people that if they return again, the police will be
called and they will not know it until a cop shows up to grab them?
Does that go against our values? If so, what is a reasonable motivator
to get people to stop returning all the time?
If the response is "we just need to keep leaning on members and
volunteers to constantly beg trespassers to leave again" i fear that we
are going to burn people out faster than we can replace them.
-jake
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Stephen Whitmore wrote:
Not sure if you're aware of it, but
Omni/sudo
has https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Asked_to_Leave. Photograph existence
varies wildly, of
course.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer
<patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ah - so he was already banned anyway, but was still coming in?
You know, I have a really hard time putting names to faces. It
would be
extremely useful if we actually had photographs of the people
that are
banned, similar to noisebridges 86 page. That way we might
actually have some
hope of enforcing the bans already in place...
Patrik
On Aug 25, 2015 1:15 PM, "yar" <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:10 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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hackerspace inside the Omni, and it sounds like
the people
involved
were not Sudoroom members nor did they claim to
be, and the
events
Actually I stand corrected, James Moon applied to be a
Sudoroom
member
a couple months ago, before he went on a yelling spree that
scared a
bunch of people away, and was then blocked from membership
and
banned.
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