15 Jan
2015
15 Jan
'15
5:54 p.m.
I'm ok with almost anything so long as the responsibilities such a title
denotes are actually clear those volunteering to take on said role.
As someone else noted, bottomliner implies the one who does not let to-do's
and responsibilities fall through the cracks, an 'if all else fails' sort
of position, which does not seem like overly elevated language to me.
'Point person' seems less preferable for the reasons also provided.
But I am somewhat agnostic, so long as the responsibilities are clear to
all.
David
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Margaretha <
margaretha.anne.haughwout(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Response enabler
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On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:
some more hopefully-less-hierarchical-terms:
* responsibili-buddy
* point-of-contact
* liaison
* ambassador
* confidant
* advocate
* messenger
* intermediary
* connection
* fixer
* agent
* emissary
* promoter
* producer
Perhaps "producer" is subtly honest, "responsibili-buddy" is most fun
to
pronounce, and "coordinator" is the closest practical analog to the current
"bottom-liner"?
// Matt
p.s. "Advocate" goes in a totally different direction, maybe worth some
consideration...
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:06 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know who you are, Ed Rippy, but I
can't wait to meet you IRL!
Love these thoughts and hope we can expand on them / work to develop
actionable solutions / experiments.
<3
Niki
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Ed Rippy <ed.rippy(a)mindspring.com>
wrote:
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On 01/11/2015 10:17 PM, Michael Nicoloff wrote:
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I know on the BAPS side of things there's
been on-and-off problems with
finding enough people to bottom-line classes, and that often the duties of
bottom-lining have unevenly fallen on a few key people, so that even if the
name bottom-liner hasn't struck me as a problem, the organizing practice
has at times felt built on shaky ground. What in theory is a non-coercive,
equal, from-each-to-each kind of horizontalism becomes not so much that in
practice, with responsibility (and power) concentrating/burdening a small
number of folks.
-- This always happens. Democracy is a great ideal, & it wd be even
greater if our fundamental equality as human beans translated into equality
of work output. It doesn't for a lot of reasons. This is the toughest part
of the whole process.
The only way to reduce this problem is for more people to step up.
This is very tough, because pretty much all of us are overextended anyway,
but it's still crucial. We all grow up in a society where just about
everything happens because someone gets paid to bottomline it. If we want
to create an alternative we need to deprogram ourselves & realize that
there ain't no-one else to do it. Many of us are also programmed to feel
that we aren't good enough and can't be 'leaders.' This is what we have
to
transform if sudo room or omni is gonna survive. Unfortunately I can't
offer a whole lot myself, but I'll think of something. One thing I've
learned is that little things add up.
We need to know ea. other & trust ea. other if we're really going to
work together. And we need to believe that our efforts will actually pay
off -- that they'll be well received & help create some great experience.
So I feel like lurking under concerns about the
name are questions of
organization, of how to ensure a horizontalism not just in name but also in
reality, and so it seems like any discussion of renaming the bottom-liner
task is also going to have to take a real look at our practices as
collectives. Maybe I'm getting a little far afield here, but it seems like
pulling on the thread of what to call what we're calling a bottom-liner
pulls a lot of other issues with it.
-- Me 2. The term "bottom-liner" has gotten pretty traditional, & I
can't think of any great alternatives. "Project Manager?" Gack. We can
change the name if we like, but IMO it's more important to talk about what
the bottlenecks are & how we can be creative working together so more
people feel like getting involved. I'm a newb here so I don't know the
issues/specifics, but I've been an activist long enough to know the
pattern. We need to hack our mindsets so that we all see a little bit of
organizing/bottomlining here & there as part of a fun life.
Cheers,
Ed Rippy
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