20 Dec
2021
20 Dec
'21
12:08 p.m.
All,
Lovi: Apologies for not seeing your email to me of yesterday. I am on
vacation in a remote area w/o consistent cel coverage, and am not
thoroughly checking emails.
I am very sorry this incident occurred. I was able to communicate with
Jorge yesterday afternoon to not return to omni and have confirmed he will
not come back. Due to my limited cel coverage right now, I didn’t have the
ability to have a spoken conversation with him but I was able to text him,
and he indicated he understands not to return. I am not sure whether or not
he totally understands the full context of why he was asked to not return.
When I am back in town, I will also call him. (Yar, if possible perhaps you
could be on that call as well.)
I previously observed Jorge working for a few days at omni and nothing
indicated to me that he was prone to behavior like this. From what I had
previously observed, he kept his head down to focus on his work and did not
strike up conversations with anyone.
Moving forward I will be explicit that anyone working to help improve omni
should not come within 3’ of any community member in the space, refrain
from touching anyone under any circumstances, and to give folks my number
if community members approach them with anything more than a
straightforward question. I have already informed the folks repairing
electrical at omni of this protocol.
Separately I think it also may be prudent if community members could,
whenever reasonably possible, perhaps minimize any non-critical
interactions with contractors, unless of course there is a safety concern.
Again I am sorry this occurred, and thank you again for speaking out about
this.
Best,
David
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 16:46 Dane via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I did not know the context until just now that Lovi
had been sexually
assaulted by Jorge (why was this information not immediately shared ?)
I asked Lovi to temporarily leave since it appeared that they were
harassing Chicago in a manner similar to how they harassed Habiba.
If I do not know all the information & contextual knowledge that was not
transparent at the time and all I see is Lovi yelling at Chicago while
appearing to mess with his work, I act based upon the immediate information
& knowledge by asking for them to leave.
*I never wanted a ban but an Ask to Leave* since I came upon Lovi yelling
at Chicago when he was saying that Lovi should not be messing with
ANV's material. Now that I know* the context of Jorge harassing Lovi*,
this changes the dynamic completely.
Jorge needs to be held to accountability along with Chicago understanding
that Jorge's behavior is 100 % unacceptable.
Dane
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 4:32 PM Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 12:47 PM Dane via
sudo-discuss
<sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
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but please please do not ignore or downplay
Lovi/Lilu's racist
authoritarian behavior, David or anyone else.
Dane, I understand your concern about both of these incidents, and I
agree with not wanting to tolerate white supremacy. But my
understanding is that in both cases, Lovi apologized for her behavior
and learned from her mistake, and this was accepted in good faith by
everybody involved? If anybody feels that these are actually still
unresolved, I would support some kind of accountability process to
happen. But it doesn't seem like you're asking for that? What you're
asking for is that we simply treat these as "priors" by which to judge
her at fault for Saturday's drama, which I cannot accept, because that
would ultimately mean we are banning her in retaliation for being
assaulted and then complaining about it. Surely you can understand why
that's not okay either?