31 Oct
2013
31 Oct
'13
3:08 a.m.
IMHO that seems excessively harsh. Banning someone from the list is
similar enough to banning them from the space, that it seems to me such
things entail a collective action by the community rather than an
administrative action or unilateral action by e.g. a list admin or
someone with keys to the door. Spambots and overt criminals are one
thing, but people who are merely annoying in some way are another.
Really: With all the talk about anarcho-this and collectivist-that and
consensus-the-other-thing, seems to me that unilaterally banning someone
for being merely annoying is a pretty major contradiction to core
principles.
If you or someone else wants to ban someone from the list or the space,
aside from emergencies such as bots and criminals, there are
dispute-resolution processes in place for that.
So I'm going to stick my neck out and ask that you reinstate him on the
list, and initiate the use of whatever collective processes exist for
resolving the issues you have with him.
-G
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On 13-10-31-Thu 2:54 AM, Marc Juul wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:24 AM, GtwoG PublicOhOne
<g2g-public01(a)att.net <mailto:g2g-public01@att.net>> wrote:
What happened? I thought the "john re" address had been captured
or spoofed by a spammer, but "giovanni_re" was a legit user, most
recently discussing the FCC application. Did the _giovanni_re"
identity turn out to be some kind of wolf in sheep's clothing? -G
He was banned for spamming the list about the FCC thing. Nine emails
in nine different threads over the course of a few hours about a
project that he has stated that he himself is not willing to work on.
That is not reasonable. He also showed up for the sudo room and
counter culture labs meetings and took an unreasonable amount of the
community's time trying to push this project onto others. It appears
that he has been doing similar things at noisebridge and other tech
groups in the bay area.
In addition: Starting and running an LPFM station is no minor
undertaking, and Giovanni has continued his attempts to push this on
people even in the face of little interest. This might have all been
fine if he was actually spearheading the project, but he is not.
--
Marc