29 Sep
2013
29 Sep
'13
9:19 p.m.
It's in Temescal, a 30 minute walk from AMT. The Berkeley border is
farther north up between Ashby and Alcatraz.
Has anyone ever done a geographic survey of where Sudoers live and how much
time they're willing to spend on BART getting to Sudo? I'm in Berkeley but
it seems like most people are closer to downtown Oakland.
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical(a)comcast.net> wrote:
You do realize that's very close to Ace Monster
Toys? If Sudo room moves
up to the Berkeley Border, it would make sense to join with Ace Monster
Toys. Also, in my opinion that is way too far from Bart, and way too far
from where I live, so I would probably not ever go there.
Sounds like an interesting space though, and that is a better neighborhood
than where AMT is now. Maybe they would be interested in this space?
Tracy
On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Rabbit <rabbitface(a)gmail.com> wrote:
My thoughts:
The various spaces are huge and awesome. The workshop space will be
subdivided up so there's the possibility of building a fun 2-level
structure / castle / tactile dome for ourselves if we end up deciding to
move there.
Sounds like there will be a variety of interesting things happening in the
building: art shows, performances, music, various groups meeting,
skillshares, yoga and dance classes, etc.
The project seems just about ready to start absorbing more people. They
have 6 "core" people and are looking for more residents and collaborators.
They expect 10-12 people to live there for $800/mo. It's right by the
freeway and has no outdoor space.
We weren't able to photograph the upstairs area which is a funky maze of
spaces which are / will become bedrooms that overlook the larger public
spaces. Also there's a hot tub.
They said they were going to prioritize the residents' feeling of "home"
over having loud shows every night. I expect that to be a point of
contention -- that huge empty space is crying out to be used for things.
If Sudo Room moved there we'd have to figure out our special access needs
(24 hour access, etc) and how that coexists with the other people and
events using the space and their security needs. Maybe there's a side door
we could use.
Also there's roof access so Sudo Mesh can probably place a node up there
regardless of what else happens. I bet the Omni people will support that.
I haven't tried the 10 minute walk northward from MacArthur BART so I'm
not sure if it's too far or not. The location is a block behind East Bay
Depot for Creative Reuse near where Shattuck hits Telegraph.
-Rabbit
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
hey all,
max, rabbit, and i ended up being at the omni at the same time yesterday.
what is the omni? read more below!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:39 PM
Subject: The Omni
To: "marina.kukso" <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>om>, Rabbit Whiskers <
rabbitface(a)gmail.com>
==What is the Omni==
*4799 Shattuck Avenue
*Officially zoned as a house
*Complex with many rooms and their loose plans for them
**Ballroom hall - Yoga and other type of classes
**A Bar/Restaurant Room - A "transactional cafe"
**A workshop type area - artist subdivisions in half, maybe a hackerspace.
**Bedroom type area - Where they will live
***A Basement - Coworking area, a film studio, and a VR Lab with
omni-treadmills
**A Commercial Kitchen - foodtrepreneurs-space
==Who are the Omni==
*Six core people
**Hippie/Burner/20-30something
**Ben Olmstead (sp?) ("chief architect") we met with him
*Leasing to Buy
**Total price $2m
==Sudo Room at the Omni==
*There is place that is good for a hackspace
*[insert picture here] ====>>>>> http://oaklandwiki.org/The_Omni
*They want to make 10 artist cubicles 10'x10' and charge $4/sqft.
*Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's for approx
$2k/month.
**They want to make $8k/month from the artist spaces + workshop +
coworking + movie studio + VRLAB + kitchen, so any combination works for
them. We can offer creative solutions. For instance I suggested:
*Pay upfront for a year could be cheaper, because they would have a
larger downpayment on their loan. They accepted.
*It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART
**Is that too far?
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