Just to clarify, TANC is Tenants and Neighborhoods Councils. They're a
local tenants union who helps organize renters to form unions in and
between apartment buildings to challenge rent increase or otherwise push
back against property managers. I reached out to them last year when I was
looking for advice in dealing with bad behavior by my property manager, and
attended one of their meetings. I support their work.
https://baytanc.com
CLP is Community Liberation Programs:
https://www.communityliberationprograms.org/. I don't know much about them,
honestly. They organize programs around diverse socialist goals, which
sounds like something I'd completely support, but I think it's misguided to
block TANC from joining Omni, particularly on the charge that they're not
outspoken enough about Palestine. I don't think they've provided any
evidence for the claim, and it's also creating a lot of conflict within
Omni that seems super unproductive.
Especially because *Omni is facing foreclosure at the end of the year* if
we don't find a new lender. We need a strong financial base of support from
member collectives in order to convince a credit union to loan us money to
avoid losing the building. I don't want to pick a fight with CLP, but the
consensus process is meant to encourage discussion and persuasion, and
blocks are supposed to be used for matters of urgent necessity.
Filibustering a new collective's joining or using a block because you
haven't been successful persuading others is not a good-faith use of the
consensus process, imo. Which is why I think Sudo should endorse a proposal
to use the consensus-minus-one clause to proceed with inducting TANC into
Omni.
Does anyone disagree? If so, can you please offer a counter proposal to
resolve this dispute. If there is no block on the motion, then I believe
whoever represents Sudo at the next Thursday Omni meeting will register our
collective as being in support of the motion to disregard CLP's block on
TANC joining.
-Andy
<https://baytanc.com/>
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 -
shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:44 PM Karissa McKelvey <krmckelv(a)gmail.com> wrote:
There are a lot of acronyms here I have no idea
what's going on. but this
is exactly why consensus-1 exists
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:56 PM Z Silver Zahn via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I really thinks it’s inappropriate to ask an
organization that Omni
dosent have that much of a relationship to spend their energy looking into
who TANC is , what omni decision making model is etc. I hope CLP steps up
to these demands they imposed on PYM .
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:29 PM Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I strongly, strongly endorse Yar’s proposal, and
while I’m trying to
take a break from Omni politics, I would be willing to make an exception if
there’s anything I can do to help break this impasse.
I am neutral on ejecting or suspending CLP. I’m happy to try and resolve
things with them if they’re willing, but I wouldn’t mind seeing them go if
they continue to demonstrate a lack of consideration for the consensus
process. Tanc’s approval has taken far too long, imo.
It’s frankly shitty to spend so much time denigrating and occupying the
limited resources of a group that helps renters stay in their homes.
Andy
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:20 PM Muirén Ní Sídach via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I get the picture.
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